Dark: the German Netflix series that's like an amalgamation of Twin Peaks, Back to the Future, and X-Files (SPOILERS!)

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yes, I was replying to the revive re: 1899 and ignoring all the intervening posts!

ledge, Thursday, 17 November 2022 21:05 (one year ago) link

lol i missed (somehow) the 1899 context and got v confused.

Fizzles, Friday, 18 November 2022 06:48 (one year ago) link

Just like watching Dark lol

groovypanda, Friday, 18 November 2022 08:02 (one year ago) link

Thought Dark kept its plates spinning brilliantly until the end of the second series, third series lol

49 Percent Jesus (Bananaman Begins), Friday, 18 November 2022 13:21 (one year ago) link

third series more like Dork lol

49 Percent Jesus (Bananaman Begins), Friday, 18 November 2022 13:22 (one year ago) link

Strong opening episode. Great music and sound effects (except for white rabbit, find other tunes), lots of (not so) hidden symbols - triangles hexagons and tetrahedra, and beetles - the french wife had triangle earrings and a large emroidered beetle on her collar.

ledge, Monday, 21 November 2022 08:54 (one year ago) link

Oh and a superb bit where everyone in the dining room drank their tea at the same time.

ledge, Monday, 21 November 2022 08:54 (one year ago) link

finished '1899' earlier today.
better than Dark ?

i think so.

watched the first half of the 'making of .. ' thing after,
they clearly had a much larger budget.

mark e, Wednesday, 23 November 2022 19:26 (one year ago) link

Just seen episode 5. Not that I necessarily would have wanted it to ramp things up any quicker, but finally! The content I crave!

ledge, Thursday, 24 November 2022 08:33 (one year ago) link

I work on a database system that has an option to archive things. At the moment it's just a checkbox and a database flag, maybe I'll redesign it to involve an enormous tempestuous gravity defying whirlpool.

ledge, Monday, 28 November 2022 09:17 (one year ago) link

really struggling with this. only persisting cos of ledge and mark e itt.

the environment is heavily synthetic and claustrophobic, not at all like being on a boat. i get that this is almost certainly deliberate - effectively this is some sort of mental state or synthetic construct. but the effect is unappealing and monotonous. some sort of sense of the outside world, some sort of sense of realism going gradually awry, and unravelling completely - something Dark did well - would imo have been far more effective. more than once i've been watching and thinking 'i shd just go and play obra dinn'. i recommend something more like the Artemis 81 approach.

i do love how incongruous the musical selections are. but for a different, bad, form of incongruity, the two 'comedy' stokers really are the pits.

also far far too much of this face being made by everyone in every episode:

https://minhaseriefavorita.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/2-temp-1899.jpg

also: is it required that anton lesser is in *everything* these days? i don't mind particularly. he's always very good. but he's *everywhere*.

Fizzles, Monday, 28 November 2022 10:52 (one year ago) link

the environment is heavily synthetic and claustrophobic, not at all like being on a boat

i could argue that boats, especially ones designed for long voyages, are exactly those things - they are simulacra of normal living spaces, often dark or cramped, and you can't leave!

effectively this is some sort of mental state or synthetic construct. but the effect is unappealing and monotonous. some sort of sense of the outside world, some sort of sense of realism going gradually awry, and unravelling completely - something Dark did well - would imo have been far more effective.

i'm reserving judgment till i've finished - probably tonight or tomorrow - but i think they try for the gradual unravelling, and that's clearly how the characters are experiencing it, but once the show has tipped its hand even slightly you can just go oh it's a simulation, and though lot may remain mysterious you completely lose any empathy with the characters. (personally i wouldn't recommend the artemis 81 approach for anything!)

i think the music and sound design is fantastic - ben frost again. comedy stokers appalling, yes. i didn't recognised anton lesser from anything else when i saw him in andor, so was amused to find him playing an almost identical character here.

ledge, Monday, 28 November 2022 11:18 (one year ago) link

lol wikipedia tells me that those are the only two things he's been in recently, so maybe he's just haunting my dreams

Fizzles, Monday, 28 November 2022 11:25 (one year ago) link

Finished. Unlike Dark it's not going in to my list of best shows of all time. Not enough headfuckery. They tried to amp it at the end with all the oooh whose simulation is it really? but too little too late. Not a patch on classic ST:TNG headfuck episodes like Frame of Mind, or Adult Swim's Final Deployment 4: Queen Battle Walkthrough. And I just didn't care about any of the characters, half of them we scarcely had a clue who they were or what they were escaping from and the main character remained a total mystery right up to the end.

Obviously if there's a season 2 I'll watch it like the sucker I am.

ledge, Tuesday, 29 November 2022 09:02 (one year ago) link

I was enjoying but fairly indifferent to it as I was watching but the last two episodes made me more on board and excited to see a second season even if that twist ending wasn't particularly original

groovypanda, Tuesday, 29 November 2022 15:56 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

No second season, axed by Netflix :(

groovypanda, Friday, 6 January 2023 08:05 (one year ago) link

tough crowd

ledge, Friday, 6 January 2023 08:40 (one year ago) link

crap - only saw the start of the pilot and seemed intriguing

worth the effort knowing that's all there is?

Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 6 January 2023 11:05 (one year ago) link

i think the story is quite self contained and does not require a second season.

mark e, Friday, 6 January 2023 12:37 (one year ago) link

Perhaps Dark wouldve been better off ending at the start of the first season!

Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 6 January 2023 13:11 (one year ago) link

Yeah, it works as a one off season so still worth watching

groovypanda, Friday, 6 January 2023 19:27 (one year ago) link


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