drowning in a blissful ocean of log drums and keys: 🎹🎹 amapiano a-z 🎹🎹 an ilm poll

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I’m still curious about the preferences of those non-voters tho (and about any other feedback). feel free to post them here - the poll is done, but the thread remains!

I can't remember if I voted, but I meant to vote for Crush Yam, so I was either the second vote after stirmonster or I should have been the third. Apologies!

anyway, very useful thread and the top +1 vote getters make a nice digestible survey. I tend to prefer the loungey/jazzy tracks to the harder ones, at least for repeat listening, though I just listened to 66 and Ncebeleka (both Felo Le Tee) and hearing those live would probably be amazing

rob, Thursday, 17 November 2022 14:57 (one year ago) link

it's actually Crush Yami apparently but anyway

StanM, Thursday, 17 November 2022 15:22 (one year ago) link

https://geo-static.traxsource.com/files/images/a157a054bc91d8d7c2424d931270f4a0.jpg

in this case it *is* in fact “Crush Yam” - however, the complete phrase in isiZulu, where vowels routinely get swallowed, is “crush yami”, which simply means ‘my crush’.

big movers, hot steppers + long shaker intros (breastcrawl), Thursday, 17 November 2022 16:18 (one year ago) link

oh! okay, thanks :-)

StanM, Thursday, 17 November 2022 17:29 (one year ago) link

in random piano tracks I can’t stop playing right now, as we speak:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2d7wJQHjfuM
Mzulu Kakhulu ft. Gaba Cannal • Gibela (iGwijo Remix)

(there are visuals, but they cover only 40% of the track: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfN1l3apO90)

big movers, hot steppers + long shaker intros (breastcrawl), Thursday, 17 November 2022 21:35 (one year ago) link

maybe that video isn't the remix?

StanM, Friday, 18 November 2022 13:33 (one year ago) link

no, it’s the same mix. if there even is an earlier/original version they’ve hidden it very well.

my point was more, enjoy the video (so many piano jams don’t even have one), but the full length is were it’s really at.
(also, weirdly, there is actually a radio edit of this song on Spotify, but it’s longer than this vid)

most importantly tho, it’s a great track

big movers, hot steppers + long shaker intros (breastcrawl), Saturday, 19 November 2022 14:30 (one year ago) link

true!

StanM, Saturday, 19 November 2022 16:36 (one year ago) link

only just learned that amapiano pioneer DJ Sumbody was murdered last Sunday. heartbreaking news: https://ra.co/news/78132

the man has made some of my favourite music of the past five years. “Ayepyep”, his breakout hit in 2017, and “Monate Mpolaye” (with Cassper Nyovest), a year later, may not have been fully developed amapiano yet, but they were definitely harbingers of the new sound. Ashi Nthwela, his only album, released in 2019, is a stone-cold classic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1qDvmteVlw

and then there’s the gorgeous triumvirate of singles he made with producers The Lowkeys and singer Drip Gogo in 2021 and 2022, “Iyamemeza”, “Ayavuma” and “Korobela”, which are among the all-time best in soulful vocal piano.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t16VuAYgFUA

I hope he can rest in peace.

big movers, hot steppers + long shaker intros (breastcrawl), Saturday, 26 November 2022 12:03 (one year ago) link

I forgot “Korobela” was in this poll too. “Ayavuma” is indispensable: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4msf2Q6E8TE

big movers, hot steppers + long shaker intros (breastcrawl), Saturday, 26 November 2022 12:09 (one year ago) link

So is this the New Amapiano thread now?

Anyway, I really like the new Focalistic - Tsela Tse Nyane
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcJPFQP9T9Y

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Monday, 28 November 2022 20:21 (one year ago) link

Haven’t had the time to listen to the full album yet.
Ghetto Gospel: https://open.spotify.com/album/195GWiPzBeREYEZv0sNnRN?si=KiPUphw1TYKjJl5TI7xzlg

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Monday, 28 November 2022 20:23 (one year ago) link

It's hard to think of this as house music - it doesn't do the same thing; I don't dance to it or listen to it in the same way

― Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), maandag 14 november 2022 12:19

‘MY HOUSE MY RULES’ dropping December 9th 🏘️ giving you “Petori to Ibiza”, the first single feat. @MJ today, out now! You’re welcome🤲🏾
STREAM AND PRE-ORDER IN BIO. pic.twitter.com/AnC8K9ZNuj

— I am vigrodeep (@VigroDeep) December 1, 2022

"Petori to Ibiza": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUE-7jyyJUc

big movers, hot steppers + long shaker intros (breastcrawl), Friday, 2 December 2022 11:11 (one year ago) link

"Tobetsa"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQB5xSpYXvc
(Myztro, ShaunMusiq & Ftears - Tobetsa)

"Tobetsa Remake"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMen1pRNHGY
(Myztro feat. Focalistic, DaliWonga, ShaunMusiq & Ftears - Tobetsa Remake)

"Tobetsa Remix"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OY4CxI2a5Xo
(Focalistic feat. Myztro, Shaunmusiq & Ftearse - Tobetsa Remix (Chomie Ke Changitse))

"Not Tobetsa"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4_0U7cSEAs
(Emjaykeyz x DJ Yessonia x Sir Trill x Robot Boii x Babygirlmint x Bailey - Not Tobetsa)

StanM, Wednesday, 7 December 2022 18:11 (one year ago) link

(I couldn't decide which of the first three I like more so here's all three)

StanM, Wednesday, 7 December 2022 18:24 (one year ago) link

somehow part of this got added to the end of the Remake video there, apparently

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeEgCPw1sQU
(Kid Kerfy - Emergency)

StanM, Wednesday, 7 December 2022 19:01 (one year ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPuiAUzz1B0
Tyla - To Last

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pavS1pKadPU
Tyla ft. DJ Maphorisa, Young Stunna - To Last (Remix)

StanM, Wednesday, 7 December 2022 19:48 (one year ago) link

An important addition to the train of Tobetsas:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1tf_TxD00s
Dj mjava - tobetsa

xheugy eddy (D-40), Thursday, 8 December 2022 05:52 (one year ago) link

oooh, nice

StanM, Thursday, 8 December 2022 14:33 (one year ago) link

"To Last" is EOY worthy I reckon

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Thursday, 8 December 2022 14:40 (one year ago) link

These two together are more than 5 hours and 20 minutes! :D

StanM, Friday, 9 December 2022 15:48 (one year ago) link

^ found out I'm more of a single track lover than being able to wade through all of this :-(

StanM, Tuesday, 13 December 2022 11:57 (one year ago) link

man, I've heard (the very great) Abo Mvelo maybe 40 times this year but its syncopations throw me off every single time. It's wild.

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Thursday, 15 December 2022 12:38 (one year ago) link

wait, maybe it hasn't been posted yet?

Daliwonga ft Mello & Sleazy & MJ- Abo Mvelo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3syTO0rRYqY

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Thursday, 15 December 2022 12:53 (one year ago) link

it was mentioned in an earlier stream but yeah

StanM, Thursday, 15 December 2022 14:58 (one year ago) link

Have there been any amapiano eoy lists yet?

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Friday, 16 December 2022 11:50 (one year ago) link

There was on mine! Asijabule in at number 4! https://open.spotify.com/playlist/3gXT2QwTDEhRlCURH1CyV0?si=a2511507558644b1

Also - no one told me there had been another Teno Afrika album out this year - only just found out!

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Friday, 16 December 2022 13:11 (one year ago) link

ooh, both versions of To Last, eh? I agree on that.

StanM, Friday, 16 December 2022 15:20 (one year ago) link

here are 10 tracks to check out (we know a couple already) : https://www.theafricareport.com/266149/south-africa-top-10-amapiano-hits-from-2022-to-keep-you-glued-to-the-dance-floor/

StanM, Friday, 16 December 2022 15:31 (one year ago) link

I couldn't decide on which version of To Last was best and figured they're both essential so they count as one slot

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Friday, 16 December 2022 15:35 (one year ago) link

StanM that link is broken

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Friday, 16 December 2022 15:36 (one year ago) link

there are several lists when you search, but I don’t think there’s anything that could be called ‘authorative’. if there even exists a good SA music publication/website I still haven’t been able to find it after all these years.
OkayAfrica had this top 15 songs list for the first half of the year, but no follow-up as of yet. as for album listings, zilch.

it would admittedly be a truly Sisyphean task. I listen to quite a lot of piano albums, but ranking them? apart from the Kabza one, I wouldn’t really know. I get lost in them, but hardly ever go back, because there’s always an often equally good new one to explore. both the productivity and the quality in amapiano are off the charts, and you’d need superpowers just to begin to keep up with all of it.

the album I’m listening to right now is Toxicated Keys x Gwam Ent Musiq’s The Problematic Friends, Episode V, and it’s very good. TK have worked together with GemValleyMusiQ, whose Abu Wronq Wronq album from earlier in the year was also very good.

I did see Xhaka crotchgrab (breastcrawl), Friday, 16 December 2022 15:46 (one year ago) link

xpost : must have been a temporary problem, I can get on there again now

https://www.theafricareport.com/266149/south-africa-top-10-amapiano-hits-from-2022-to-keep-you-glued-to-the-dance-floor/

StanM, Friday, 16 December 2022 15:47 (one year ago) link

btw, the Vigro Deep and Kelvin Momo albums above came with very high expectations, but having listened to them once, I’m not too sure about either of them.

all of the Vigro sounded good, obviously, but none of the individual tracks jumped out at me.

Kelvin Momo’s previous album (which dropped in December 2021), is an absolute classic of gorgeously subtle and lush piano, piano as jazz perhaps. it was also almost 3 hours long. the new goes one better (?): it’s 3,5 hours, going in waves, from instrumental to vocal tracks and back. there are beautiful tracks, including several with his muse Babalwa M, but I’m not sure the melodies are at the level of the highlights on Ivy League. I do need to come back to it tho, but [see above].

either way, I would advise anyone who wants to delve in to skip the first four tracks (saves about 35 minutes!) I feel “Umoya” is where it becomes interesting.

(then again, don’t take my word for it, track 4 (“Fool Me”), which I find rather dull honestly, is currently the most streamed track in SA - almost all of the album’s 26 tracks are in the Apple Music top 100 (whereas there’s nothing by Vigro).)

I did see Xhaka crotchgrab (breastcrawl), Friday, 16 December 2022 15:57 (one year ago) link

but instead of grumpin' around, let me highlight some of the highs, and they are very high when listened to in isolation:

"Izono" (ft. MaWhoo, Babalwa M & Chley): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hfta9KV2u7Y

"Sukakude" (ft. Babalwa M & Sfarzo Rtee): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouYmLAk6OxM

I did see Xhaka crotchgrab (breastcrawl), Friday, 16 December 2022 16:25 (one year ago) link

UPDATE: just playing the tracks I playlisted during my first pass of the album, I’m left with a truly fantastic 12-track version (only 1h32!)

the phrase “on a corner called jazz” popped up in my head more than once, and fans of Mr. Fingers’ 1992 Introduction album should definitely give this a go.

I made a Spotify playlist: 🟩 kelvin momo • amukelani (album essentials)

this is one of the instrumentals on it:

“O’Ketsang” (ft. Mick Man): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YR5KeIcwj2I

I did see Xhaka crotchgrab (breastcrawl), Friday, 16 December 2022 18:57 (one year ago) link

Thanks, breastcrawl. In other news, I just finished listening to the Busta 929 album, Fearless, which is surprisingly uneventful. He has clearly discovered the joys of French Kiss, as there are a few tracks that slow down in the middle but it’s hardly enough to keep my interest up over 20 long tracks.

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Friday, 16 December 2022 22:03 (one year ago) link

Also, I just discovered he has apparently been cancelled for having sex with underage girls. Oh well.

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Friday, 16 December 2022 22:11 (one year ago) link

I like Fool Me, btw. It’s summertime in SA, and it would sound perfect with a sundowner.

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Friday, 16 December 2022 22:45 (one year ago) link

The Fader 100 list has some interesting inclusions btw: https://www.thefader.com/2022/12/15/the-100-best-songs-of-2022

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Friday, 16 December 2022 22:56 (one year ago) link

you mean this, right?

79. Kabza De Small, “Eningi”

“Ah weSomandla, ngicela ungnike imali eningi eningi eningi.”


I noted it in the EOY music lists thread yesterday.
great, obv. pretty much a first, I think?

I did see Xhaka crotchgrab (breastcrawl), Friday, 16 December 2022 23:29 (one year ago) link

Yes. And Samthing Soweto too!

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Saturday, 17 December 2022 00:03 (one year ago) link

oh yeah, forgot about him. very much non-piano tho, that one

I did see Xhaka crotchgrab (breastcrawl), Saturday, 17 December 2022 00:33 (one year ago) link

Asake is amapiano'ing it up in his track there too

StanM, Saturday, 17 December 2022 11:25 (one year ago) link

this one is crazy - the sound(s)!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfgFqoQ0j78
Slowavex ft. Loki, Privs3 & Xola TSM • Juluka

thank you for this random act of kindness!

I did see Xhaka crotchgrab (breastcrawl), Saturday, 17 December 2022 14:47 (one year ago) link

it’s PRVIS3, btw

I did see Xhaka crotchgrab (breastcrawl), Saturday, 17 December 2022 14:50 (one year ago) link

Concept DJ mix idea: just the shaker intros

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Sunday, 18 December 2022 10:32 (one year ago) link

i’m here for it

no harm in shaker intros biting shaker outros in the tail (breastcrawl), Sunday, 18 December 2022 11:07 (one year ago) link

speaking of GemValleyMusiQ’s _Abu Wronq Wronq_ album, if I was a dj I’d definitely play “Top Seven” in my piano section:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owJ-Arkhqt8

the shaker intro bit the shaker outro in the tail, hard (breastcrawl), Sunday, 18 December 2022 14:17 (one year ago) link


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