U.S. Politics, November 2022: “I don’t know, you hear the same things I do”

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I'd like to hear Walker's views on Cronenbergian body horror, 80's slasher films, the folk horror revival, everything

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 21:27 (one year ago) link

I'd like to set him on fire and feed his bones to Trump.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 16 November 2022 21:29 (one year ago) link

feel like desantis cruelty is ultimately too blunt you need to mix in a lil razzle dazzle like ol donnie trump dress it up have some fun

lag∞n, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 21:29 (one year ago) link

^^^^

a (waterface), Wednesday, 16 November 2022 21:29 (one year ago) link

It's dubbed, right?

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 16 November 2022 21:29 (one year ago) link

I don't think Romney is hypocritical or engages in performative cruelty. He is trying. He is not interested in show. (I am not trying to defend anything else. My apologies for any errors in judgment.)

youn, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 21:30 (one year ago) link

I want to know why mainstream media is silent regarding his 7 fumbles in 1989

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 16 November 2022 21:30 (one year ago) link

Mitt Romney very occasionally shows some of the backbone that his old man had.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 16 November 2022 21:31 (one year ago) link

Not dubbed, but out of sync.

nickn, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 21:31 (one year ago) link

feel like desantis cruelty is ultimately too blunt you need to mix in a lil razzle dazzle like ol donnie trump dress it up have some fun

― lag∞n, Wednesday, November 16, 2022 4:29 PM (three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

^^^^

― a (waterface)

yeah this is one reason why I think he's peaked. Besides Trump's existence, DeSantis is the anonymous Nazi soldier putting the bullet in you, not Goebbels.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 16 November 2022 21:33 (one year ago) link

exactly, he's not having enough fun being cruel, and it shows

sleeve, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 21:34 (one year ago) link

Would you endorse a werewolf for office if they were great 95% of the time but terrible every time there is a full moon?

"How could I be an anti-semite? I had a werewolf bar mitzvah."

here's a thought, though: what if it's left to other parts of the party and the rightwing media to provide the "fun" to his cruelty?

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 21:35 (one year ago) link

mitt's statement signals what side the money is on and it makes sense from the pov of utah, the would-be leaders of r&d for lovewashing 'religious freedom' if only they weren't a cult of freaks everyone else laughs at.

ꙮ (map), Wednesday, 16 November 2022 21:38 (one year ago) link

SLC has or had a gay mayor, yeah? So Romney's gotta play it a little safe

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 21:39 (one year ago) link

squinty ron could never inspire boat parades where they go exactly the right speed to create a crazy wake that makes them sink, thats visionary shit, religious even

lag∞n, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 21:39 (one year ago) link

ron is like the villain in a bad teen comedy, trump is a schumacher batman kinda gangster villain. so campy and strange and with odd colored skin.

omar little, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 21:44 (one year ago) link

trump seems more reliant these days on the thing he does during speeches where he just rotates left and right and talks to people off to the side and puffs his chest out in a way that makes it look like he's trying to stay upright. major sniffing going on too.

omar little, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 21:45 (one year ago) link

yeah hes old and unhealthy who knows if hes got the juice for another run

lag∞n, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 21:46 (one year ago) link

ron is like the villain in a bad teen comedy, trump is a schumacher batman kinda gangster villain.

bad teen comedy villain is exactly right. for trump i always think of the 1989 batman parade in gotham where nicholson is actually not doing a very good job of acting, where he just kind of pumps his arms out over and over, like TA-DAAAAAA! as the money flies around. reminds me of trump when he "dances" and pumps his fists out a few times

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 21:50 (one year ago) link

DeSatis is the dickhead jock that always cans the nerdy hero, or Matt Dillon's character in My Bodyguard

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 21:57 (one year ago) link

Not dubbed, but out of sync.

Come on, that's not Walker's voice, it's a joke video

Brad C., Wednesday, 16 November 2022 22:00 (one year ago) link

Anecdotal story: I was at a dinner that included a bunch of Chamber of Commerce type conservatives. When the subject of R nominee for 2024 came up, they sheepishly rolled their eyes about the prospects for Trump. Other options were mentioned - DeSantis brought shrugs and one person who knew him from school was reacted poorly. They all got giddy when the ringleader brought up Nikky Haley - it was pretty sad and funny.

The Bankruptcy of the Planet of the Apes (PBKR), Wednesday, 16 November 2022 22:07 (one year ago) link

was

The Bankruptcy of the Planet of the Apes (PBKR), Wednesday, 16 November 2022 22:08 (one year ago) link

I was at a dinner that included a bunch of Chamber of Commerce type conservatives

folks... we've identified the ilxor NYT plant

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 16 November 2022 22:08 (one year ago) link

the GOP have a fairly unique political problem in that they've conditioned their voters to straight up not give a shit about anything. they were so damn proud about stonewalling every single thing Obama wanted to do and holding open the Supreme Court vacancy and it directly led to the nomination of a dude with no political experience who based all his policy goals on what got the most applause. their entire platform for 2020 was a blank sheet of paper with "MAGA" scribbled on it. they're so nihilistic and cruel that they've driven record Dem turnout in 4 straight elections. maybe DeSantis can rally these folks but I kinda doubt it.

frogbs, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 22:09 (one year ago) link

Haley/Gabbard 2024

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 16 November 2022 22:09 (one year ago) link

Good news:

The Senate on Wednesday took a crucial step toward passing landmark legislation to provide federal protections for same-sex marriages, as 12 Republicans joined Democrats to advance the Respect for Marriage Act, putting it on track to become law in the twilight of the Democratic-held Congress.

The 62-37 vote, which came only days after the midterm elections in which Democrats retained control of the Senate but were on track to lose the House to Republicans, was a rare and notable last gasp of bipartisanship by a lame duck Congress as lawmakers looked toward an era of political gridlock in a divided Washington.

It also signaled a remarkable shift in American politics and culture, demonstrating how same-sex marriage, once a politically divisive issue, has been so widely accepted in society that a law to protect the rights of same-sex couples across the country could gain decisive, bipartisan majorities in both the Senate and the House. Last summer, 47 House Republicans joined Democrats to pass a version of the bill.

Senator Chuck Schumer, the majority leader, said that passage of the legislation, now expected after Thanksgiving, would be “one of the true highlights of the year for this body” and “one of the more significant accomplishments of this Senate to date.”

Speaking on the Senate floor, Mr. Schumer noted that his daughter and her wife were expecting a baby in the spring and he wanted “them, and every one in a loving relationship, to live without the fear that their rights could one day be stripped away.”

Didn't know Schumer's daughter was gay.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 16 November 2022 22:19 (one year ago) link

Wow.

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 16 November 2022 22:21 (one year ago) link

Current status of the Republican civil war: confused skirmishes over control of vital "overpriced DC steakhouse" territory pic.twitter.com/chQGZFddpb

— CJ Ciaramella (@cjciaramella) November 16, 2022

lag∞n, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 22:25 (one year ago) link

Morton's has a good burger iirc

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 16 November 2022 22:34 (one year ago) link

compensates for the cocktail called the Mortini.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 16 November 2022 22:35 (one year ago) link

During the vote, Baldwin barely stepped more than three feet away from the clerk’s desk. Sinema split her time between the GOP cloakroom and the floor, where she closely watched the tally. Collins at one point joked to Sen. Richard Shelby (R-Ala.) after he voted no: “you could have surprised everybody!”

Such a happy place, such comity/comedy!

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 16 November 2022 22:40 (one year ago) link

why was sinema interested in the GOP cloakroom?

Lord Pickles (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 16 November 2022 22:49 (one year ago) link

Meanwhile, under the "X" in Texas:

Texas Republicans this week pre-filed several bills ahead of the state’s next legislative session in January, teeing up efforts to ban gender-affirming health care for transgender youth and subject drag performances to the same rigorous standards as nightclubs and bars...

As one who spends a fair amount of time in nightclubs and bars, I'm curious to find out what they mean by 'rigorous standards'.. the shitholes I visit barely mop the bathroom once a month

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 22:50 (one year ago) link

why was sinema interested in the GOP cloakroom?

that's where her pinot grigio is hidden

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 22:50 (one year ago) link

xp - I don't think they mean those "rigorous standards" as much as informally deputizing every MAGA clown in the state to walk into bars and clubs to report "violations"

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 16 November 2022 22:53 (one year ago) link

Okay, here are the deets:

Another measure introduced Monday by state Rep. Jared Patterson (R) seeks to classify any business that hosts a drag performance as a “sexually oriented businesses” under state law, meaning that patrons younger than 18 years old would be barred from the premises.

Those who violate the bill’s provisions will be charged with a Class A misdemeanor, on par with vehicle burglary and punishable by up to a year of county jail time and a fine of up to $4,000.

JFC, what about Dame Edna shows?

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 22:54 (one year ago) link

They're looking to criminalize drag shows for people under 18 in Tennessee too. The proposed law defines it as shows with male or female impersonators that "appeal to a prurient interest" — which is obviously weird because while drag shows can be bawdy, they certainly aren't all, and I can only imagine that things like Drag Queen Storyhour and Drag Queen Brunch are not. (Also there's the conflation of drag with trans, which aren't the same thing, etc.) Anyway, the moral panic is in full force.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 16 November 2022 22:55 (one year ago) link

Lotta libraries about to be classified "sexually oriented businesses" for hosting drag story hours. JFC

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 16 November 2022 22:55 (one year ago) link

There was an especially dumb freak-out in Chattanooga, where a video from an all-ages drag show circulated and there was a three-second clip where a little girl approached a performer dressed as Ariel and reached out a hand to touch the sequin scales on her dress. The Moms for Liberty crowd was in uproar saying the girl had been encouraged to touch the performer's genital area, which was so clearly not at all what happened. And THEN it came out that that performer wasn't even in drag, it was a woman dressed as Ariel who was part of the troupe.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 16 November 2022 22:57 (one year ago) link

My friend makes these pins that have flaming pitchforks on them that say THE MORAL PANIC IS ABOUT ME and tbh it is life-affirming, even tho I am not trans, just a crazy leftist fag

poppin' debussy (the table is the table), Wednesday, 16 November 2022 22:57 (one year ago) link

Come on, that's not Walker's voice, it's a joke video

― Brad C., Wednesday, November 16, 2022 5:00 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

another angle

An extended anecdote from Herschel Walker on the trail today about vampires and werewolves:

“Vampires are cool people, are they not?”

“A werewolf can kill a vampire, did you know that? I never knew that. So I don’t want to be a vampire anymore, I want to be a werewolf.” 🧛🏼‍♀️ pic.twitter.com/xpids7oTbW

— Dylan Wells (@dylanewells) November 16, 2022

lag∞n, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 23:01 (one year ago) link

attending a drag show at Finocchio's in San Francisco was just a tourist thing back in the 40s/50s/60s, like going to the Hard Rock Cafe or something

Now it would be considered an indoctrination session lol

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 23:03 (one year ago) link

^true

Dan S, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 23:09 (one year ago) link

Drag brunch is popular in Miami. I never saw one child besides bachelors and bachelorettes discovering the horrors of mimosas.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 16 November 2022 23:11 (one year ago) link

The fucked thing about drag shows is you have THAT legislation, but in Orlando, people comfortably bring kids into drag shows. Hamburger Mary's has a drag brunch every Sunday or used to at least. Ginger Minj used to be part of it.

Fucking christofascists

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 16 November 2022 23:19 (one year ago) link

Also the conflation between what's ostensibly a fun performance (drag shows) with the people's actual lives (trans rights).. like it's all the same thing

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 23:30 (one year ago) link

So are the dudes who wear the minnie mouse costumes at disneyworld “in drag” or

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, 16 November 2022 23:32 (one year ago) link

Hopefully White Chicks will finally get banned

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 23:35 (one year ago) link


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