U.S. Politics, November 2022: “I don’t know, you hear the same things I do”

Yeah and I mean, I muttered this the other day but given how utterly obvious Trump was wanting to get 'his' people in place in the states that bedevilled him last time and how that turned out, exactly how does that give him a boost? And when you've got him still pushing the 'vote on the day' stuff, which he did again last night and which absolutely contributed to all the fucking-themselves-over foolishness -- and when good ol' Ron can point to Florida and go "We do early voting and we owned it" -- how exactly does that improve his chances?

the big thing is if he is running straight up head to head against desantis i think the party elites will rally to him to beat trump, if there’s a bunch of guys like abbott and cruz and rubio trying their hand, then trump can replicate his 2016 run to a degree

And just to add one more wire to the suicide vest, he has apparently declared that a vote for Herschel Walker is a vote for Trump.

shit xps i’m on zing tipsy otm

i can feel the monkey paw curling as a say this but trump v desantis straight up could get crazy, good chance trump will sabotage the situation if its not going his way, dont think theres really anything he wont stoop to

I mean, hell yes, if the remainder of our crumbling democracy wasn't what was at stake, I would absolutely enjoy the fuck out of a WWE style Trump/DeSantis feud, especially since Ron showed he's isn't cowed by Trump at all. That little clip of MAGAts gleefully stomping all over the signs of people ostensibly on their own side gave me some life last night.

if DeSantis wins the nom I can totally see him just telling his supporters to stay home and wait patently for MAGAAA in 2028

i mean trump desantis wrestlemania is prob good for democracy in the sense that whoever wins is in worse shape than when they started

H. Ross Trump

if DeSantis wins the nom I can totally see him just telling his supporters to stay home and wait patently for MAGAAA in 2028

― frogbs, Wednesday, November 16, 2022 2:21 PM (two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

there have been rumors that hes said as much, but nothing he says is worth anything of course

or yeah he could do third party

I think I’ll be giggling over “dr. charisma, Rick Scott” until Thanksgiving at lesst

Trump is like LaRouche Redux, he's just going to keep running until he dies.

I still see LaRouche cultists on the streets of San Francisco... they had a picture of Obama with a Hitler moustache, long after he left office

I mean, look, I have to hope that a lot of the GOP establishment is turning their backs on him because... well, the alternative is too fucking bleak to consider atm.

― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, November 16, 2022 12:54 PM (thirty-six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

i think the alternative is trump loses embarrassingly in a national election

Hugely

I mean, if the entire heft of the GOP falls in line and kisses the ring (which is the proposition that I was reacting to with that post), I'm not going to be comfortable assuming he will lose embarrassingly.

Feels like no presidential candidate is going to lose "embarrassingly" in the remainder of our lifetimes

Prove me wrong, universe

monkey's paw curls

One good point I heard a commentator make today was that DeSantis has an especially potent issue among the base vs. Trump, which was his (utterly irresponsible and arguably murderous) anti-mandate COVID stance. He can go out there and say, "I would've fired Fauci, we never would've shut down" etc etc. Trump was wishy-washy on the pandemic. And while a lot of the electorate has moved on, the crazies in the GOP base are still just frothing about all of that, I see it on Twitter regularly.

And his face-off with Disney was a much stronger anti-woke showdown than anything Trump ever did. So if those are the things the base still cares about, he's got a strong resume.

he was also a Navy SEAL, which Trump would have done except for bone spurs

He was so desperate to claim the vaccines as his personal success but he quit after getting booed once. Brutal own by his fans.

sad

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/how-did-marie-gluesenkamp-perez-pull-off-the-upset-of-the-year-in-southwest-wa/

i watched a stump speech of hers and was like ah yes i can see why she beat that maga cia freak, shes got game

otm about desantis distinguishing himself by his performative cruelty. along the same lines, the pundits and screaming radio hosts are always talking about sending immigrants to the neighborhood of prominent democrats, but desantis was able to deliver on that promise by spending a couple million to hire a team of people to go to texas, lie to some immigrants who needed and help and fly them to cape cod and then just left them there. he's shown that he can up the ante and really bring immediate physical danger to people who deserved help. plus, as a sitting governor he actually has the political power to reach new levels of cruelty, especially the people who didn't vote for him. whereas trump's ability to bring physical danger to innocent people will hopefully be limited

she had a line something like "democrats have been so focused on being the smartest and most successful when really we should be trying to send actual working people to washington" where i was just like fuck yes xp self

Yeah that’s a winning line she’s gonna be in Congress for 80 years now

He was so desperate to claim the vaccines as his personal success but he quit after getting booed once. Brutal own by his fans.

yeah he did try lol

trump's ability to bring physical danger to innocent people will hopefully be limited

Not on the golf course it won't

yeah he definitely did try to take credit for the vaccine. "Operation Warp Speed" and all that crap. while it was in development a bunch of his talking heads kept saying it should be called the "Trump vaccine" cuz it would hopefully mean libs wouldn't get it

So is USA going to narrowly avoid a descent into fullblown fascist kleptocracy just 'cause folks get bored with it?

yeah maybe

called the "Trump vaccine" cuz it would hopefully mean libs wouldn't get it

very MAGA logic in play here, "covid is definitely very much not a real thing and I hope those libs don't get Trump's genius vaccine so they die from it"

My statement on the Respect for Marriage Act: pic.twitter.com/jaVL1k0wE5

— Senator Mitt Romney (@SenatorRomney) November 16, 2022

I'll keep this moment in my heart the moment my marriage is destroyed by external forces some 2 to 3 years from now

I always wondered why he didn’t even try to make a big deal of the vaccine development.

i think the main problem he faced was that, on the other side of his mouth, he was saying covid wasn't a big deal and equated not wearing a mask with strength

Going great!

Herschel Walker at his rally just now: “23 and Me has screwed us all up”

— Roger Sollenberger (@SollenbergerRC) November 16, 2022

Dehydrated 10-year-old sent to hospital after arrival, as Governor Greg Abbott sends thousands of migrants to Democratic-led areas

Is there anyone we can send back in return? Thinking busloads of bedbugs, or japanese knotweeds

(not comparing migrants to pests!)

this guy is one is the alltime political freaks

This is a real video from Georgia GOP Senate candidate Herschel Walker’s speech pic.twitter.com/AjVXrc0L14

— philip lewis (@Phil_Lewis_) November 16, 2022

I'd like to send Tommy Udo to Abbott.

xpost most coherent I've ever seen him

N-n-n-nice Work, Dan Ppppeterson!

Senators Herschel and Tommy would have a grand time together in them ol' carters of power.

Mitt Romney … loves me?

thats right

I would like to hear every politician's position on vampires, please. Cool? Not cool? Who would win in a fight, a vampire or a werewolf? Would you endorse a werewolf for office if they were great 95% of the time but terrible every time there is a full moon?