U.S. Politics, November 2022: “I don’t know, you hear the same things I do”

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the drug thing didn't come out until years after the race

a ha, you're right. Ok, now I'm remembering this better; seems like the FL Dem state party has pivoted to attempting to run middle of the road, centrist candidates ever since, thinking that will bring in right-leaning voters, and it is backfiring on them badly because no one likes candidates like that.

akm, Monday, 14 November 2022 16:27 (one year ago) link

really hope fettermans success will inspire dems to run sloppy big boys everywhere

lag∞n, Monday, 14 November 2022 16:31 (one year ago) link

On December 7, 2012, Crist announced that he had joined the Democratic Party.[72] In July 2013, Crist began writing a book, with Newsday columnist Ellis Henican, about his political transition.[73][74] The book, The Party's Over: How the Extreme Right Hijacked the GOP and I Became a Democrat, was released in February 2014.[75][76][77] In the book, Crist claimed that his career in the Republican Party was destroyed by a hug between him and Obama at a Fort Myers town hall on February 10, 2009. "It was the kind of hug I'd exchanged with thousands and thousands of Floridians over the years", Crist wrote. "I didn't think a thing about it as it was happening." But it "ended my viable life as a Republican politician. I would never have a future in my old party again. My bipartisan hopes and dreams, I would discover soon enough to my shock and disappointment, were vastly overstated and hopelessly out of date."

epilogue: 8 years later, charlie crist ran as a democrat again and got his ass kicked

Karl Malone, Monday, 14 November 2022 16:40 (one year ago) link

lol people do not learn you can only replace them

lag∞n, Monday, 14 November 2022 16:43 (one year ago) link

Among the people retweeting this insanity are Elon Musk and my fucking congressman

In hard MAGA and QAnon spaces, they're convinced that the FTX collapse was part of the Democrat conspiracy. The claim is that FTX was a front to launder Ukrainian bribe money to Dem coffers, which has been shut down now the mid-terms are over. pic.twitter.com/6IitVUrXiO

— Arieh Kovler (@ariehkovler) November 14, 2022

ah makes sense

lag∞n, Monday, 14 November 2022 16:48 (one year ago) link

Just realized that I think I've been confusing Kari Lake and Kelli Ward, not that it really matters.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 14 November 2022 16:50 (one year ago) link

xpost altruism: effective

one day someone will explain to the conspiracy nuts that all theories are equally plausible if you don't need any evidence for them

Jaime Pressly and America (f. hazel), Monday, 14 November 2022 17:07 (one year ago) link

yeah put your head back in the sand sheeple

assert (matttkkkk), Monday, 14 November 2022 19:41 (one year ago) link

Mike Lindell has pillowcases full of evidence, but courts refuse to look at it DO YOU SEE?

Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Monday, 14 November 2022 20:13 (one year ago) link

new wapo story that kari lake is reportedly being quietly counseled to gracefully concede when it is shown that she has lost. lol, yeah, that's not going to happen.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 15 November 2022 00:59 (one year ago) link

I think there is enough preponderance of public opinion at the moment that says that this shit won't be tolerated, and she has to know that

I am heartened by the results of this election

Dan S, Tuesday, 15 November 2022 01:32 (one year ago) link

Honestly knew little about kari lake and her shit is wild.

Lake was a member of the Republican Party until November 3, 2006,[22] when she changed her registration to become an independent. She registered as a Democrat on January 4, 2008, the day after the Iowa Democratic presidential caucuses were won by Obama.[22] Lake returned to being a Republican on January 31, 2012. She explained leaving the Republican Party in 2006 as a reaction to the then-ongoing Iraq and Afghanistan wars. She had supported John Kerry in 2004 and Barack Obama in 2008.[22] She also made several donations to Democratic presidential candidates.[22][23] After launching her campaign for governor in 2021, Lake cited Trump, Ronald Reagan, and Arizona Republican Party chair Kelli Ward, all former Democrats, as precedent for her party-switching.[24]

Ok

Also the obv false flag anthrax attack from a week ago.

omar little, Tuesday, 15 November 2022 01:42 (one year ago) link

Networks calling for Hobbs now.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 15 November 2022 02:01 (one year ago) link

sucks that dems are unlikely to retain the house. but overall this election was pretty good. americans' disgust with right wing extremism outweighed all the things working against the incumbent party in a sluggish economy.

treeship., Tuesday, 15 November 2022 02:09 (one year ago) link

i'd give this election a 7.8

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 15 November 2022 02:32 (one year ago) link

good piece about a bad guy

“In the weeks before Election Day, Maloney set off on a Europe trip, where he hung out on a balcony overlooking the Seine, and turned up in London, Paris, and Geneva, often alongside Adam Schiff, for gatherings billed as DCCC fundraising events.” https://t.co/Ii0tywC2yN

— Yuh-Line Niou (@yuhline) November 14, 2022

lag∞n, Tuesday, 15 November 2022 02:35 (one year ago) link

Sean Patrick Baloney, amirite?

Lots of talk about how the GOP is probably going to win the overall national vote by a decent percentage — 4 percent or so — but it wasn't distributed in ways that helped where they needed it. (e.g. big margins in Florida and Texas, a better-than-expected showing in New York state). Also some of that is in red House districts where no Democrat even ran, so it's a bit of a skewed number. But GOP turnout was better than Democratic turnout. Not much consolation for them at the moment, but concerning for '24. On the other hand, Dems always show up more for presidential races, so who knows.

I mean, redistricting pumped up those vote totals. We've seen in recent years how Dems touted their nat'l vote totals and no one gave a damn (I didn't).

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 15 November 2022 02:38 (one year ago) link

Yeah I wouldn't overly worry about that turnout report. Midterm years are funny things.

Meantime...best served cold.

You’re welcome, @KariLake. https://t.co/5jVFIprwxS

— Liz Cheney (@Liz_Cheney) November 15, 2022

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 15 November 2022 02:39 (one year ago) link

Yeah I agree, presidential races are the only ones where the national vote totals really mean anything. (Not enough, obviously, but at least it's an actual nationwide race.)

That sentence came off ruder than intended. Sorry.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 15 November 2022 02:42 (one year ago) link

the 2024 senate map is daunting.

https://i.imgur.com/NdVBJ2t.png

if you're thinking of flipping a red state, which one? Indiana? Maybe North Dakota?

and then you have all the blue states to defend. Montana and West Virginia jump out (though maybe Tester will do ok, and who the fuck knows about Manchin), Arizona, Ohio.

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 15 November 2022 02:44 (one year ago) link

Lake might make some noise but I’m kinda relieved at the lack of Rs screaming rigged election. Almost feels like Trump was one of the few uniquely shameless enough to do it.

frogbs, Tuesday, 15 November 2022 02:46 (one year ago) link

trumps the only one who can rally the troops

lag∞n, Tuesday, 15 November 2022 02:51 (one year ago) link

good luck tulsi

Tulsi Gabbard is so bad at hosting a show. Unbelievably boring. This clip is 36 seconds and I guarantee your eyes will glaze over before it's halfway done. pic.twitter.com/fh8vWjNDpx

— Kat Abu (@abughazalehkat) November 15, 2022

lag∞n, Tuesday, 15 November 2022 02:54 (one year ago) link

if you're thinking of flipping a red state, which one? Indiana? Maybe North Dakota?

Democrats are totally gonna run Beto out against Cruz again aren't they.

papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 15 November 2022 03:02 (one year ago) link

theyve got literally no one else

slai gorgeous-alexander (m bison), Tuesday, 15 November 2022 03:03 (one year ago) link

maybe he can grow a mustache or something

lag∞n, Tuesday, 15 November 2022 03:04 (one year ago) link

"But GOP turnout was better than Democratic turnout. Not much consolation for them at the moment, but concerning for '24".

That is a meaningless statistic. Percentage-wise in select states maybe, but not number-wise.

So they turned out in bigger numbers in regressive right wing states like Florida, Texas and Ohio. Those states are already lost.

Dan S, Tuesday, 15 November 2022 03:11 (one year ago) link

Be cooler if they weren't tho

Texas is gonna flip before Florida ever does

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Tuesday, 15 November 2022 03:29 (one year ago) link

^^^

sleeve, Tuesday, 15 November 2022 03:30 (one year ago) link

California is gonna flip before Florida ever does

ex-McKinsey wonk who looks like a human version of a rat (Eric H.), Tuesday, 15 November 2022 03:41 (one year ago) link

Running Wooderson would be smarter than trotting out a multiple time loser.

papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 15 November 2022 03:51 (one year ago) link

either of the castro brothers could be decent but they are too chicken shit to lose, beto is the perfect lovable loser bc he never has to deliver on promises

slai gorgeous-alexander (m bison), Tuesday, 15 November 2022 03:53 (one year ago) link

If you want some scary roffles right now, Mark Finchem's Twitter feed is...interesting.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 15 November 2022 04:00 (one year ago) link

Beto blew $77 million in 2022 and he might as well have set it on fire, he didn't do any better against Abbott than Lupe Valdez did in 2018, who spent less than a tenth of what Beto did. Everyone assumed demographics would magically make Texas go blue in the next decade but surprise! The Latino population here is swinging hard to the right and voting Republican in droves.

Jaime Pressly and America (f. hazel), Tuesday, 15 November 2022 04:17 (one year ago) link

I forget where I read it but there was a piece some years back that basically said what the Texas GOP did was take stock about how the California GOP blew itself up with Latinos following Prop 187 and essentially paid for it ever since; Ahnuld was an exception to the rule once Wilson was finally out and Dan Lungren couldn't beat Gray Davis (of all people), and after that it's been a slow descent into clown shoes for the most part.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 15 November 2022 04:22 (one year ago) link

fwiw the reason that I expect Texas to have a Dem win a statewide election again before Florida does isn’t bc of demographics per se. It’s really just vibes.

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Tuesday, 15 November 2022 04:38 (one year ago) link

fwiw the reason that I expect Texas to have a Dem win a statewide election again before Florida does isn’t bc of demographics per se. It’s really just vibes.

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Tuesday, 15 November 2022 04:38 (one year ago) link

Ah crap I double posted! What a boner

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Tuesday, 15 November 2022 04:38 (one year ago) link

Stuffed ballot box, fake news etc

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 15 November 2022 04:43 (one year ago) link

🚨🚨As Orange County gets into the vote center ballots, tonight's #CA47 update breaks 57.7% 42.3% for Republican Scott Baugh, who slashes Katie Porter's lead by 2,446 votes down to 2,891 and 1.28% https://t.co/oiqHnNKaBN

— Rob Pyers (@rpyers) November 15, 2022

uh oh

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 15 November 2022 05:26 (one year ago) link

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-11-03/manchin-wants-deal-on-debt-social-security-medicare-and-medicaid

What an idiot. We need Warnock to win to make his vote less important, although Sinema is still there too

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 15 November 2022 05:30 (one year ago) link

Anyone who voted against Katie Porter should be disemboweled.

Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 15 November 2022 05:51 (one year ago) link

hear, hear

assert (matttkkkk), Tuesday, 15 November 2022 06:04 (one year ago) link


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