U.S. Politics, November 2022: “I don’t know, you hear the same things I do”

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nothing matters to me until wasserman sees enough. keep looking, wasserman!

Karl Malone, Monday, 14 November 2022 03:40 (one year ago) link

He's trying to see! But he says it's extremely tough to see enough.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 14 November 2022 03:41 (one year ago) link

Lake losing would be such a nail in the coffin for MAGA

frogbs, Monday, 14 November 2022 03:41 (one year ago) link

Florida also gave felons the vote, raised the minimum wage and legalized weed in recent memory so alongside lots of old people and psychotic evangelicals people are also just a confused mishmash of beliefs per usual.

papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 14 November 2022 03:41 (one year ago) link

I for one know what has happened in Florida

― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, November 13, 2022 10:40 PM (fifty-three seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

tell me

lag∞n, Monday, 14 November 2022 03:42 (one year ago) link

Gallego: We fought as a team in Arizona and we won. Senator Sinema was nowhere to be found, at all. We did not see her at one public event for anybody… she did nothing. Because she only cares about herself.. pic.twitter.com/cPE8doyWy9

— Acyn (@Acyn) November 13, 2022

lol get her

lag∞n, Monday, 14 November 2022 03:47 (one year ago) link

I for one know what has happened in Florida

― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, November 13, 2022 10:40 PM (fifty-three seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

tell me

― lag∞n

State-level Dems suck, were told to surrender in summer '21.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 14 November 2022 03:48 (one year ago) link

xp

get her and give her $50M. pay her off to leave, it's worth it. it's the cost of doing business

Karl Malone, Monday, 14 November 2022 03:49 (one year ago) link

Dems lost the AZ Govs race in 2018 by 15 pts. https://t.co/AOgpBjvVNP

— Simon Rosenberg (@SimonWDC) November 14, 2022

frogbs, Monday, 14 November 2022 03:49 (one year ago) link

The Lake thing is interesting because both Wasserman and Nate Cohn say it looks bad for her, but there's this other lesser known expert Garrett Archer who thinks the remaining red vote is being underrated and he's not a hack, both Dave and Nate have supported his tweets despite not agreeing with them outright.

Basically the confidence isn't 99%

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Monday, 14 November 2022 03:51 (one year ago) link

State-level Dems suck, were told to surrender in summer '21.

― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, November 13, 2022 10:48 PM (three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

can they really be that bad

lag∞n, Monday, 14 November 2022 03:55 (one year ago) link

come sit by me

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 14 November 2022 03:57 (one year ago) link

we had no $, no scripts, no organization.

I'm going to bed.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 14 November 2022 03:58 (one year ago) link

Is it me or did Dems lose big in states where they tacked right? Florida Dems running an ex-Republican and Ohio Dems with Tim “Democrats talk too much about abortion” Ryan.

Lord Pickles (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 14 November 2022 05:03 (one year ago) link

Dems lost *five* NY seats that voted for Biden by more than the national result in ‘20 - including two that voted for Biden by double digits. You can’t really blame that on bad redistricting.

— Dave Wasserman (@Redistrict) November 14, 2022

xyzzzz__, Monday, 14 November 2022 08:38 (one year ago) link

florida dems might be incompetent but ny dems are entrenched in the worst kind of machine politics, the kind that doesn’t even reliably provide electoral victories

comedy khadafi (voodoo chili), Monday, 14 November 2022 09:56 (one year ago) link

Hey, remember when Donald Trump stole highly classified documents?

— Rick Wilson (@TheRickWilson) November 13, 2022

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 14 November 2022 13:35 (one year ago) link

sometimes feel like the basis for being politically conservative just comes down to deep sexual insecurity or trauma

https://www.weiserantiquarian.com/pictures/medium/64932.jpg

Fronted by a bearded Phil Collins (Tom D.), Monday, 14 November 2022 13:48 (one year ago) link

I would imagine that another factor with respect to elements of the far right turning against sports would be the anti-corporate tilt common to these factions of late…

veronica moser, Monday, 14 November 2022 14:57 (one year ago) link

its mostly because of the anti racist things, starting with the kneeling in football, nba putting blm on the court, whole worlds gone woke, but they still love football they cant help it, some cia freak saying games are for kids is a bridge too far, as a politician you should at the very least pretend to love college football, saying you dont watch the nfl anymore but you still love college could work, depending on your location

lag∞n, Monday, 14 November 2022 15:05 (one year ago) link

tell me the last time florida ran a really good candidate for statewide office (for these purposes DEmmings doesn't count as 'really good'. I thought she was good in the impeachment hearings, outside of that I don't know anything about her, I'm told that it was dumb of them to run someone who was so pro-police). Crist? no. Andrew Gillium? Uh, no. Dem party in Florida seems as useless as the Republican party in California.

akm, Monday, 14 November 2022 15:05 (one year ago) link

also don't discount reactionary feelings about covid restrictions there

akm, Monday, 14 November 2022 15:07 (one year ago) link

feeling pretty reassured that at least covid didnt turn the whole country fash

lag∞n, Monday, 14 November 2022 15:08 (one year ago) link

tell me the last time florida ran a really good candidate for statewide office (for these purposes DEmmings doesn't count as 'really good'. I thought she was good in the impeachment hearings, outside of that I don't know anything about her, I'm told that it was dumb of them to run someone who was so pro-police). Crist? no. Andrew Gillium? Uh, no. Dem party in Florida seems as useless as the Republican party in California.

― akm, Monday, November 14, 2022

Gillum.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 14 November 2022 15:24 (one year ago) link

According to AZ Central, Sinema was invited to attend a rally held in early November with former president Barack Obama but declined.

Even for Sinema, this is weird behavior.

why doesnt she just retire if she so impatient to start collecting those corporate kickbacks

lag∞n, Monday, 14 November 2022 15:39 (one year ago) link

Gillum

were you correcting my spelling or putting him up as representative of a good candidate? I can't remember much of his run; I vaguely remember he was doing well until the drug thing came out.

akm, Monday, 14 November 2022 16:03 (one year ago) link

the drug thing didn't come out until years after the race

symsymsym, Monday, 14 November 2022 16:07 (one year ago) link

No, I was defending Gillium for coming as close to being a charismatic candidate who almost beat a GOP ballsack.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 14 November 2022 16:07 (one year ago) link

Lmao at the prosperity gospel applied to polling

Final NYT/Siena polls & results
AZ D+5 Result D+5.3
GA D+1.3 Result D+0.9
PA D+5 Result D+4.3
NV Even Result D+0.7
That @FiveThirtyEight showed closer races was bc of partisan polls flooding the zone, as @Nate_Cohn wrote https://t.co/JuPHCv50lF

— Trip Gabriel (@tripgabriel) November 14, 2022

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 14 November 2022 16:10 (one year ago) link

the drug thing didn't come out until years after the race

a ha, you're right. Ok, now I'm remembering this better; seems like the FL Dem state party has pivoted to attempting to run middle of the road, centrist candidates ever since, thinking that will bring in right-leaning voters, and it is backfiring on them badly because no one likes candidates like that.

akm, Monday, 14 November 2022 16:27 (one year ago) link

really hope fettermans success will inspire dems to run sloppy big boys everywhere

lag∞n, Monday, 14 November 2022 16:31 (one year ago) link

On December 7, 2012, Crist announced that he had joined the Democratic Party.[72] In July 2013, Crist began writing a book, with Newsday columnist Ellis Henican, about his political transition.[73][74] The book, The Party's Over: How the Extreme Right Hijacked the GOP and I Became a Democrat, was released in February 2014.[75][76][77] In the book, Crist claimed that his career in the Republican Party was destroyed by a hug between him and Obama at a Fort Myers town hall on February 10, 2009. "It was the kind of hug I'd exchanged with thousands and thousands of Floridians over the years", Crist wrote. "I didn't think a thing about it as it was happening." But it "ended my viable life as a Republican politician. I would never have a future in my old party again. My bipartisan hopes and dreams, I would discover soon enough to my shock and disappointment, were vastly overstated and hopelessly out of date."

epilogue: 8 years later, charlie crist ran as a democrat again and got his ass kicked

Karl Malone, Monday, 14 November 2022 16:40 (one year ago) link

lol people do not learn you can only replace them

lag∞n, Monday, 14 November 2022 16:43 (one year ago) link

Among the people retweeting this insanity are Elon Musk and my fucking congressman

In hard MAGA and QAnon spaces, they're convinced that the FTX collapse was part of the Democrat conspiracy. The claim is that FTX was a front to launder Ukrainian bribe money to Dem coffers, which has been shut down now the mid-terms are over. pic.twitter.com/6IitVUrXiO

— Arieh Kovler (@ariehkovler) November 14, 2022

ah makes sense

lag∞n, Monday, 14 November 2022 16:48 (one year ago) link

Just realized that I think I've been confusing Kari Lake and Kelli Ward, not that it really matters.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 14 November 2022 16:50 (one year ago) link

xpost altruism: effective

one day someone will explain to the conspiracy nuts that all theories are equally plausible if you don't need any evidence for them

Jaime Pressly and America (f. hazel), Monday, 14 November 2022 17:07 (one year ago) link

yeah put your head back in the sand sheeple

assert (matttkkkk), Monday, 14 November 2022 19:41 (one year ago) link

Mike Lindell has pillowcases full of evidence, but courts refuse to look at it DO YOU SEE?

Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Monday, 14 November 2022 20:13 (one year ago) link

new wapo story that kari lake is reportedly being quietly counseled to gracefully concede when it is shown that she has lost. lol, yeah, that's not going to happen.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 15 November 2022 00:59 (one year ago) link

I think there is enough preponderance of public opinion at the moment that says that this shit won't be tolerated, and she has to know that

I am heartened by the results of this election

Dan S, Tuesday, 15 November 2022 01:32 (one year ago) link

Honestly knew little about kari lake and her shit is wild.

Lake was a member of the Republican Party until November 3, 2006,[22] when she changed her registration to become an independent. She registered as a Democrat on January 4, 2008, the day after the Iowa Democratic presidential caucuses were won by Obama.[22] Lake returned to being a Republican on January 31, 2012. She explained leaving the Republican Party in 2006 as a reaction to the then-ongoing Iraq and Afghanistan wars. She had supported John Kerry in 2004 and Barack Obama in 2008.[22] She also made several donations to Democratic presidential candidates.[22][23] After launching her campaign for governor in 2021, Lake cited Trump, Ronald Reagan, and Arizona Republican Party chair Kelli Ward, all former Democrats, as precedent for her party-switching.[24]

Ok

Also the obv false flag anthrax attack from a week ago.

omar little, Tuesday, 15 November 2022 01:42 (one year ago) link

Networks calling for Hobbs now.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 15 November 2022 02:01 (one year ago) link

sucks that dems are unlikely to retain the house. but overall this election was pretty good. americans' disgust with right wing extremism outweighed all the things working against the incumbent party in a sluggish economy.

treeship., Tuesday, 15 November 2022 02:09 (one year ago) link

i'd give this election a 7.8

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 15 November 2022 02:32 (one year ago) link

good piece about a bad guy

“In the weeks before Election Day, Maloney set off on a Europe trip, where he hung out on a balcony overlooking the Seine, and turned up in London, Paris, and Geneva, often alongside Adam Schiff, for gatherings billed as DCCC fundraising events.” https://t.co/Ii0tywC2yN

— Yuh-Line Niou (@yuhline) November 14, 2022

lag∞n, Tuesday, 15 November 2022 02:35 (one year ago) link

Sean Patrick Baloney, amirite?


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