drowning in a blissful ocean of log drums and keys: 🎹🎹 amapiano a-z 🎹🎹 an ilm poll

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14 votes ain't bad, think about it. We should do one of these every 3 months

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Saturday, 12 November 2022 04:42 (one year ago) link

result that someone else loves “Crush Yam”.

ace poll - it introduced me to lots of grest music. what dog latin said....

stirmonster, Saturday, 12 November 2022 05:01 (one year ago) link

I started my DJ set last night with some amapiano and got a good bunch of the early doors crowd grooving. My co-DJ whomst I was going B2B with followed it up with some more straight-up (but great) house and people just sort of shrugged and walked off. I couldn't have conceived of something like this happening just a year or so ago

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Saturday, 12 November 2022 10:38 (one year ago) link

….and we have a result!
thanks to everyone who participated in this. I loved the enthusiasm everyone seemed to be feeling about this awesome genre!
special thanks to the 13 voters (I was nr 14). “Paris” is a worthy winner and there’s a nice spread of votes, with eight killer tracks receiving love, highlighting the awesome variety in the genre - because no, not every amapiano track sounds the same, like at all.

is 13/14 votes a lot? hard to say, 43 people followed the playlist, so I may have expected more, but I have no idea what the going ratio is. I’m still curious about the preferences of those non-voters tho (and about any other feedback). feel free to post them here - the poll is done, but the thread remains!

I voted “Asijabule” myself, out of the 29 options it was my most played track. it’s going to be extremely high on my EOY ballot. it was wonderful to see people warming to it over the course of this poll.
but I have to say, when I played the eight vote-getters just now, I was all in for “Crush Yam” - what a track!

(oh, in case you were wondering about the cinderella option, the one that was only there because it was the only eligible track for that letter of the alphabet (that is, I had played it once): it was “Xigubhu” by Welle SA (<1000 streams on Spotify) - and even that one is good!)

big movers, hot steppers + long shaker intros (breastcrawl), Saturday, 12 November 2022 20:34 (one year ago) link

Thank you again for 2 Months of fun with this, please do more :-)


thanks a lot, breastcrawl! Let's do it again soon


We should do one of these every 3 months


ace poll - what dog latin said....


I guess I could do another one after EOY season. by then an exquisite new batch will undoubtedly have assembled itself

thanx again to all the ILM yanos (trainees and otherwise)!

big movers, hot steppers + long shaker intros (breastcrawl), Saturday, 12 November 2022 20:36 (one year ago) link

any links to Bandcamp pages for any of this stuff would be very much appreciated, seems like most of this is streaming only?

sleeve, Saturday, 12 November 2022 20:42 (one year ago) link

I’m not really a Bandcamp user myself. my guess is that most of it won’t be found there - the Awesome Tapes stuff (Teno Afrika, DJ Black Low) being the exception to the rule, targeted as it is at a different (Western, indie-leaning, for want of a better word) audience.
but perhaps other posters have different information/experiences?

big movers, hot steppers + long shaker intros (breastcrawl), Saturday, 12 November 2022 20:52 (one year ago) link

beatport has more and more ama lately. couldn't find a lot of this poll but some artists are there.

ꙮ (map), Saturday, 12 November 2022 20:57 (one year ago) link

“Asijabule” is a UK release (Rinse FM, London) and is on Bandcamp:

https://rinsefm.bandcamp.com/album/vigro-deep-asijabule-feat-murumba-pitch-lady-du

big movers, hot steppers + long shaker intros (breastcrawl), Saturday, 12 November 2022 21:01 (one year ago) link

I get most of my amapiano and afro-pop downloads from 7Digital

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Sunday, 13 November 2022 04:58 (one year ago) link

the one that was only there because it was the only eligible track for that letter of the alphabet (that is, I had played it once): it was “Xigubhu” by Welle SA

i love that one so very happy it starts wth an 'x' or i'd never have heard it!

stirmonster, Sunday, 13 November 2022 05:30 (one year ago) link

I’m currently being hypnotized by this track:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2LGkIAh7ok
Ch’cco ft. Focalistic x Mellow & Sleazy • Pele Pele

dankie, my president!

big movers, hot steppers + long shaker intros (breastcrawl), Sunday, 13 November 2022 19:28 (one year ago) link

I like how deconstructed and elastic Amapiano can be, its unpredictable bouncy skittering fluid dynamics, and I often find that in the rawer tracks, like this Pele Pele. Even if in the end top favorites are still the fully formed smooth diamonds, they need to distill some of that unpredictable primal soup, some of the skeletal tension. Maybe also why Amapiano likes to invite foreign sounds in and warp them to show off its Protean quality. I find myself thinking of the vocals in Amapiano as "toasting", as in deejay, I wonder if the South Africans have their own term for it (assuming it's not called simply rapping or singing). For some reason, Amapiano never sounded only like a house genre to me, it's a bit like another "sound culture" if I can draw such a distant parallel just based on how soulful, dark, experimental both genres are and how closely together they draw the producer and the vocals.

Nabozo, Monday, 14 November 2022 09:28 (one year ago) link

and the genre's so... alive too! This one is currently on the number one spot on Spotify's AmaPiano Grooves playlist, "added 3 days ago"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdQ-74_lf7Y

DBN Gogo, Stixx, BoiBizza ft. MaWhoo - UYATHANDEKA

StanM, Monday, 14 November 2022 10:27 (one year ago) link

xpost "foreign sounds" : like flamenco guitar in the track I just posted :-)

StanM, Monday, 14 November 2022 10:28 (one year ago) link

xxp Nabozo OTM. It's hard to think of this as house music - it doesn't do the same thing; I don't dance to it or listen to it in the same way

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Monday, 14 November 2022 11:19 (one year ago) link

Since it's the time in the thread where we start pulling it in all directions like wolves, I'll post fresh stuff too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejlL0ARRF3I
Dj Maphorisa & Visca - iSandla (feat. Da Muziqal Chef, Thabza Tee & Malumnator)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXP493syN_w
Mellow & Sleazy - Elokishini (feat. Chley, Da Muziqal Chef & M.J.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-YRoPm0AVw
Mr JazziQ - Abuti Wadi Chipi (feat. Murumba Pitch, Zuma, Mzukulu)

Nabozo, Tuesday, 15 November 2022 20:38 (one year ago) link

I’m still curious about the preferences of those non-voters tho (and about any other feedback). feel free to post them here - the poll is done, but the thread remains!

I can't remember if I voted, but I meant to vote for Crush Yam, so I was either the second vote after stirmonster or I should have been the third. Apologies!

anyway, very useful thread and the top +1 vote getters make a nice digestible survey. I tend to prefer the loungey/jazzy tracks to the harder ones, at least for repeat listening, though I just listened to 66 and Ncebeleka (both Felo Le Tee) and hearing those live would probably be amazing

rob, Thursday, 17 November 2022 14:57 (one year ago) link

it's actually Crush Yami apparently but anyway

StanM, Thursday, 17 November 2022 15:22 (one year ago) link

https://geo-static.traxsource.com/files/images/a157a054bc91d8d7c2424d931270f4a0.jpg

in this case it *is* in fact “Crush Yam” - however, the complete phrase in isiZulu, where vowels routinely get swallowed, is “crush yami”, which simply means ‘my crush’.

big movers, hot steppers + long shaker intros (breastcrawl), Thursday, 17 November 2022 16:18 (one year ago) link

oh! okay, thanks :-)

StanM, Thursday, 17 November 2022 17:29 (one year ago) link

in random piano tracks I can’t stop playing right now, as we speak:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2d7wJQHjfuM
Mzulu Kakhulu ft. Gaba Cannal • Gibela (iGwijo Remix)

(there are visuals, but they cover only 40% of the track: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfN1l3apO90)

big movers, hot steppers + long shaker intros (breastcrawl), Thursday, 17 November 2022 21:35 (one year ago) link

maybe that video isn't the remix?

StanM, Friday, 18 November 2022 13:33 (one year ago) link

no, it’s the same mix. if there even is an earlier/original version they’ve hidden it very well.

my point was more, enjoy the video (so many piano jams don’t even have one), but the full length is were it’s really at.
(also, weirdly, there is actually a radio edit of this song on Spotify, but it’s longer than this vid)

most importantly tho, it’s a great track

big movers, hot steppers + long shaker intros (breastcrawl), Saturday, 19 November 2022 14:30 (one year ago) link

true!

StanM, Saturday, 19 November 2022 16:36 (one year ago) link

only just learned that amapiano pioneer DJ Sumbody was murdered last Sunday. heartbreaking news: https://ra.co/news/78132

the man has made some of my favourite music of the past five years. “Ayepyep”, his breakout hit in 2017, and “Monate Mpolaye” (with Cassper Nyovest), a year later, may not have been fully developed amapiano yet, but they were definitely harbingers of the new sound. Ashi Nthwela, his only album, released in 2019, is a stone-cold classic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1qDvmteVlw

and then there’s the gorgeous triumvirate of singles he made with producers The Lowkeys and singer Drip Gogo in 2021 and 2022, “Iyamemeza”, “Ayavuma” and “Korobela”, which are among the all-time best in soulful vocal piano.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t16VuAYgFUA

I hope he can rest in peace.

big movers, hot steppers + long shaker intros (breastcrawl), Saturday, 26 November 2022 12:03 (one year ago) link

I forgot “Korobela” was in this poll too. “Ayavuma” is indispensable: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4msf2Q6E8TE

big movers, hot steppers + long shaker intros (breastcrawl), Saturday, 26 November 2022 12:09 (one year ago) link

So is this the New Amapiano thread now?

Anyway, I really like the new Focalistic - Tsela Tse Nyane
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcJPFQP9T9Y

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Monday, 28 November 2022 20:21 (one year ago) link

Haven’t had the time to listen to the full album yet.
Ghetto Gospel: https://open.spotify.com/album/195GWiPzBeREYEZv0sNnRN?si=KiPUphw1TYKjJl5TI7xzlg

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Monday, 28 November 2022 20:23 (one year ago) link

It's hard to think of this as house music - it doesn't do the same thing; I don't dance to it or listen to it in the same way

― Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), maandag 14 november 2022 12:19

‘MY HOUSE MY RULES’ dropping December 9th 🏘️ giving you “Petori to Ibiza”, the first single feat. @MJ today, out now! You’re welcome🤲🏾
STREAM AND PRE-ORDER IN BIO. pic.twitter.com/AnC8K9ZNuj

— I am vigrodeep (@VigroDeep) December 1, 2022

"Petori to Ibiza": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUE-7jyyJUc

big movers, hot steppers + long shaker intros (breastcrawl), Friday, 2 December 2022 11:11 (one year ago) link

"Tobetsa"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQB5xSpYXvc
(Myztro, ShaunMusiq & Ftears - Tobetsa)

"Tobetsa Remake"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMen1pRNHGY
(Myztro feat. Focalistic, DaliWonga, ShaunMusiq & Ftears - Tobetsa Remake)

"Tobetsa Remix"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OY4CxI2a5Xo
(Focalistic feat. Myztro, Shaunmusiq & Ftearse - Tobetsa Remix (Chomie Ke Changitse))

"Not Tobetsa"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4_0U7cSEAs
(Emjaykeyz x DJ Yessonia x Sir Trill x Robot Boii x Babygirlmint x Bailey - Not Tobetsa)

StanM, Wednesday, 7 December 2022 18:11 (one year ago) link

(I couldn't decide which of the first three I like more so here's all three)

StanM, Wednesday, 7 December 2022 18:24 (one year ago) link

somehow part of this got added to the end of the Remake video there, apparently

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeEgCPw1sQU
(Kid Kerfy - Emergency)

StanM, Wednesday, 7 December 2022 19:01 (one year ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPuiAUzz1B0
Tyla - To Last

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pavS1pKadPU
Tyla ft. DJ Maphorisa, Young Stunna - To Last (Remix)

StanM, Wednesday, 7 December 2022 19:48 (one year ago) link

An important addition to the train of Tobetsas:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1tf_TxD00s
Dj mjava - tobetsa

xheugy eddy (D-40), Thursday, 8 December 2022 05:52 (one year ago) link

oooh, nice

StanM, Thursday, 8 December 2022 14:33 (one year ago) link

"To Last" is EOY worthy I reckon

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Thursday, 8 December 2022 14:40 (one year ago) link

These two together are more than 5 hours and 20 minutes! :D

StanM, Friday, 9 December 2022 15:48 (one year ago) link

^ found out I'm more of a single track lover than being able to wade through all of this :-(

StanM, Tuesday, 13 December 2022 11:57 (one year ago) link

man, I've heard (the very great) Abo Mvelo maybe 40 times this year but its syncopations throw me off every single time. It's wild.

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Thursday, 15 December 2022 12:38 (one year ago) link

wait, maybe it hasn't been posted yet?

Daliwonga ft Mello & Sleazy & MJ- Abo Mvelo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3syTO0rRYqY

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Thursday, 15 December 2022 12:53 (one year ago) link

it was mentioned in an earlier stream but yeah

StanM, Thursday, 15 December 2022 14:58 (one year ago) link

Have there been any amapiano eoy lists yet?

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Friday, 16 December 2022 11:50 (one year ago) link

There was on mine! Asijabule in at number 4! https://open.spotify.com/playlist/3gXT2QwTDEhRlCURH1CyV0?si=a2511507558644b1

Also - no one told me there had been another Teno Afrika album out this year - only just found out!

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Friday, 16 December 2022 13:11 (one year ago) link

ooh, both versions of To Last, eh? I agree on that.

StanM, Friday, 16 December 2022 15:20 (one year ago) link

here are 10 tracks to check out (we know a couple already) : https://www.theafricareport.com/266149/south-africa-top-10-amapiano-hits-from-2022-to-keep-you-glued-to-the-dance-floor/

StanM, Friday, 16 December 2022 15:31 (one year ago) link

I couldn't decide on which version of To Last was best and figured they're both essential so they count as one slot

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Friday, 16 December 2022 15:35 (one year ago) link

StanM that link is broken

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Friday, 16 December 2022 15:36 (one year ago) link

there are several lists when you search, but I don’t think there’s anything that could be called ‘authorative’. if there even exists a good SA music publication/website I still haven’t been able to find it after all these years.
OkayAfrica had this top 15 songs list for the first half of the year, but no follow-up as of yet. as for album listings, zilch.

it would admittedly be a truly Sisyphean task. I listen to quite a lot of piano albums, but ranking them? apart from the Kabza one, I wouldn’t really know. I get lost in them, but hardly ever go back, because there’s always an often equally good new one to explore. both the productivity and the quality in amapiano are off the charts, and you’d need superpowers just to begin to keep up with all of it.

the album I’m listening to right now is Toxicated Keys x Gwam Ent Musiq’s The Problematic Friends, Episode V, and it’s very good. TK have worked together with GemValleyMusiQ, whose Abu Wronq Wronq album from earlier in the year was also very good.

I did see Xhaka crotchgrab (breastcrawl), Friday, 16 December 2022 15:46 (one year ago) link


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