the problem with tech coverage is that it's not glowing enough
Instead of covering the industry with a business press lens or a consumer lens they started covering it with a very tough investigative lens — highly oppositional at all times and occasionally unfair.Almost never curious about technology or in awe of progress and potential.— Matthew Yglesias (@mattyglesias) November 3, 2022
― Karl Malone, Saturday, 12 November 2022 03:59 (one year ago) link
Matty is probably still in awe of the potential represented by Theranos and its game-changing technology
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 12 November 2022 04:05 (one year ago) link
its a small thingin the wider world -- and sure he's not unflawed himself -- but jeet heer's open contempt for yglesias, increasingly robustly and directly stated ("reactionary cetnrist" etc etc), is funny and good
― mark s, Saturday, 12 November 2022 11:29 (one year ago) link
Fascinating piece from Matthew Yglesias from a few months ago defending the intellectual integrity of Sam Bankman-Fried ("SBF is for real"). Worth revisiting in light of recent news https://t.co/xKzyijbAFz— Jeet Heer (@HeerJeet) November 12, 2022
― lag∞n, Saturday, 12 November 2022 17:53 (one year ago) link
lol he despises him so much
― mark s, Saturday, 12 November 2022 17:55 (one year ago) link
lol, this is kind of onethread with a lot of other things, but i love how in that yglesias substack where got ratio'd, he includes a Wasserman tweet where Wasserman says "I've seen enough."
i'm starting to get to know these characters and their catchphrases
― Karl Malone, Saturday, 12 November 2022 18:02 (one year ago) link
haha, this is from that same Yglesias article (https://www.slowboring.com/p/understanding-effective-altruisms). i don't read him that often but
SBF is for realSam Bankman-Fried’s life choices are unconventional, and I think that has made it easy to dismiss Carrick Flynn as a “crypto-backed” candidate or Protect Our Future as a crypto play. But there’s a pretty clear and plausible argument that this is simply not the case:SBF was raised by a leading consequentialist moral theorist.While attending MIT, SBF went to a Will MacAskill lecture on Effective Altruism and got lunch with him.At this point in time, MacAskill was heavily promoting “earn to give” as a life plan, specifically promoting the virtues of the then-unfashionable life choice of going to work in finance.SBF then went to work at Jane Street Capital, a proprietary trading firm notorious for employing smart weirdos, giving half his salary away to animal welfare charities.He left Jane Street to briefly work directly for the Centre for Effective Altruism, which MacAskill founded, but while there hit upon a crypto trading arbitrage opportunity.He left CEA to focus on crypto trading, starting a company called Alameda Research focused on making money through crypto arbitrage and other trading strategies.He then left Alameda to found FTX. Now the co-CEO of Alameda Research is Caroline Ellison, also an EA who writes posts on EA Forum explaining how much weight2 she puts on ensuring that potential hires are aligned with EA values.FTX has been incredibly successful, and Bankman-Fried is now a multi-billionaire.
Sam Bankman-Fried’s life choices are unconventional, and I think that has made it easy to dismiss Carrick Flynn as a “crypto-backed” candidate or Protect Our Future as a crypto play. But there’s a pretty clear and plausible argument that this is simply not the case:
SBF was raised by a leading consequentialist moral theorist.
While attending MIT, SBF went to a Will MacAskill lecture on Effective Altruism and got lunch with him.
At this point in time, MacAskill was heavily promoting “earn to give” as a life plan, specifically promoting the virtues of the then-unfashionable life choice of going to work in finance.
SBF then went to work at Jane Street Capital, a proprietary trading firm notorious for employing smart weirdos, giving half his salary away to animal welfare charities.
He left Jane Street to briefly work directly for the Centre for Effective Altruism, which MacAskill founded, but while there hit upon a crypto trading arbitrage opportunity.
He left CEA to focus on crypto trading, starting a company called Alameda Research focused on making money through crypto arbitrage and other trading strategies.
He then left Alameda to found FTX. Now the co-CEO of Alameda Research is Caroline Ellison, also an EA who writes posts on EA Forum explaining how much weight2 she puts on ensuring that potential hires are aligned with EA values.
FTX has been incredibly successful, and Bankman-Fried is now a multi-billionaire.
lol
― Karl Malone, Saturday, 12 November 2022 18:08 (one year ago) link
effective alt is like "why we can be complete pricks and that's good not bad"
turns out that in a billion years our being pricks will be proveably beneficial for humanity QED, ps i was raised by a leading consequentialist
― mark s, Saturday, 12 November 2022 18:21 (one year ago) link
or "leading consequentialist moral theorist" as yggy puts it
― mark s, Saturday, 12 November 2022 18:22 (one year ago) link
let's just do it and be dickheads, man
― Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Saturday, 12 November 2022 18:22 (one year ago) link
lol at ‘got lunch with him’
― mookieproof, Saturday, 12 November 2022 18:49 (one year ago) link
people really abuse the word notorious
― lag∞n, Saturday, 12 November 2022 19:01 (one year ago) link
matty could totally rescue this for me by going to bat for polycules
― mark s, Saturday, 12 November 2022 19:16 (one year ago) link
wait that's the polycule on the lower rolley traintrack isn't it
― mark s, Saturday, 12 November 2022 19:17 (one year ago) link
trolley
― mark s, Saturday, 12 November 2022 19:19 (one year ago) link
trofl
one track has a polycule on it the other has baby hitler which one do you choose
― lag∞n, Saturday, 12 November 2022 19:21 (one year ago) link
rockefeller figured this one weird trick out a century and a half ago and iirc his dad was only a snake oil salesman. idk whom he might have had lunch w later tho.
― difficult listening hour, Sunday, 13 November 2022 08:44 (one year ago) link
also you could purchase petroleum from him, and ignite it to make things go.
― difficult listening hour, Sunday, 13 November 2022 08:45 (one year ago) link
The fact that even Republicans are now realizing that transphobia is bad politics makes it even more shameful that reactionary centrist Matt Yglesias (among others) urged Dems to throw trans people under the bus just a few weeks ago. https://t.co/AGgpAdEW5Q pic.twitter.com/ko5OCsPmvi— Jeet Heer (@HeerJeet) November 11, 2022
― “uhh”—like, this is an insane oatmeal raisin cookie “uhh” (President Keyes), Sunday, 13 November 2022 13:56 (one year ago) link
ah matt replied to the jeet tweets yesterday asking for constructive criticism via email and everyone was telling him to stop being such a loser lol he deleted tho shouldve screencapped
― lag∞n, Sunday, 13 November 2022 14:13 (one year ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FhZTanMXEAEua37?format=jpg&name=large
― lag∞n, Sunday, 13 November 2022 14:15 (one year ago) link
love how any time something happens that matty was absolutely wrong on, the alarm sounds and everyone shows up
― mh, Monday, 14 November 2022 19:42 (one year ago) link
“It’s plausible that without SBF’s money, Trump would still be in the White House.”
― papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 17 November 2022 16:57 (one year ago) link
Wasn't sure whether to post this in the outbreak thread or the Ezra/Matt thread but I decided to post it here because (and I say this as someone who generally likes Yglesias's work) this one really highlights a very particular way in which he sometimes misses
There’s a faction on US Twitter that insists we could have had Xi Jinping’s Covid policies if not for David Leonhardt and Emily Oster. https://t.co/5B2UpVbiW9— Matthew Yglesias (@mattyglesias) November 26, 2022
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 28 November 2022 00:57 (one year ago) link
truly cannot imagine liking this slug at this point
― lag∞n, Monday, 28 November 2022 01:09 (one year ago) link
we’ve got some fans left it seems!
― k3vin k., Monday, 28 November 2022 01:16 (one year ago) link
ride or die
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 28 November 2022 02:22 (one year ago) link
ah well
― mookieproof, Monday, 28 November 2022 02:25 (one year ago) link
You can post pepe memes because you're the richest person on the planet and nobody can tell you what to do or you can convince brand advertisers that you're a safe bet they can count on but you can't do both at the same time.— Matthew Yglesias (@mattyglesias) November 28, 2022
― o. nate, Monday, 28 November 2022 21:14 (one year ago) link
matty in his role as The Littlest Echo
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 28 November 2022 21:27 (one year ago) link
is lagoon prepared to apologize for the time he said klein was just as bad as this guy
― k3vin k., Thursday, 1 December 2022 22:44 (one year ago) link
im prepared to do a yglesias level galaxy brained take on why klein is just as bad if it comes to that
― lag∞n, Thursday, 1 December 2022 22:52 (one year ago) link
klein is a very dull writer imo
― flopson, Thursday, 1 December 2022 22:53 (one year ago) link
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/11/21/business/00VOX-print/00VOX-articleLarge.jpg
pretty funny how klein has become an "ideas" podcaster and matty has become a substacker, the two perfect paths for vacuous blogger scoundrels
― lag∞n, Thursday, 1 December 2022 22:56 (one year ago) link
even tho matty is the laziest person in the world ezra is more likely to get caught in a plagiarism scandal
― lag∞n, Thursday, 1 December 2022 22:57 (one year ago) link
was thinking the other day about how when vox started their big idea was to have little linked explainers you could click through to get more info on various topics, this was going to save journalism
― lag∞n, Thursday, 1 December 2022 23:02 (one year ago) link
omg its ok to say ur wrong, the two guys are literally not in the same orbits at all right now, matty is a sad clout-chasing blogger, ezra for all his faults tries to understand stuff, they’re not the same!
― k3vin k., Friday, 2 December 2022 00:10 (one year ago) link
if youre a sucker for ezras shtick thats 100% your problem not mine
― lag∞n, Friday, 2 December 2022 00:22 (one year ago) link
i don't see much difference between them. ezra doesn't really write about politics as regularly anymore (seems to be positioning himself as a post-wonk ira glass figure) and is now attached to a legacy media company while matt writes constantly about politics and is an independent blogger
― flopson, Friday, 2 December 2022 00:29 (one year ago) link
matt is better cause he stayed true to blogging, ezra became a professional apologist for power which is the lowest form of writer, even lower than a worm (matt yglesias)
― lag∞n, Friday, 2 December 2022 00:31 (one year ago) link
Dunno why you would need to read either of these guys when you can just read a book
― G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Friday, 2 December 2022 00:37 (one year ago) link
a book about how america should get a billion people?
― lag∞n, Friday, 2 December 2022 00:41 (one year ago) link
Idk whatever book you want, there’s dozens of em
― G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Friday, 2 December 2022 00:44 (one year ago) link
like when it comes down to it, who actually are these guys?
― G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Friday, 2 December 2022 00:45 (one year ago) link
Has Ezra ever written about effective altruism?
― papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 2 December 2022 00:53 (one year ago) link
0/0 results on this thread for "Better Than Ezra"
― papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 2 December 2022 00:54 (one year ago) link
Good
― Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Friday, 2 December 2022 01:00 (one year ago) link
― papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, December 1, 2022 7:53 PM (two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
excellent question! he has a podcast with the longtermism philosopher and crypto hanger on William MacAskill https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/09/opinion/ezra-klein-podcast-will-macaskill.html
this one also seems to be about that shit https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/05/opinion/ezra-klein-podcast-holden-karnofsky.html
im sure ezra thinks very deeply on this obvious garbage
― lag∞n, Friday, 2 December 2022 01:02 (one year ago) link
― G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Thursday, December 1, 2022 7:37 PM (twenty-nine minutes ago) book
the thing is ezra actually reads books and interviews ppl about them smh they’re not even the same species
― k3vin k., Friday, 2 December 2022 01:08 (one year ago) link