When the World is Running Down, You Make the POLL of What's Still Around – ILM Artist Poll #116 – THE POLICE - (Voting extended to Friday, Dec 2, 2022)

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is “lucid dreams” by juice wrld eligible for ballot three?

― comedy khadafi (voodoo chili), Thursday, November 10, 2022 1:36 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

this q was not a joke btw (well only half a joke)

comedy khadafi (voodoo chili), Friday, 11 November 2022 07:22 (one year ago) link

Mad that I am not the first person to post the amazing "Don't Care" by Klark Kent in this thread

Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 12 November 2022 02:17 (one year ago) link

is “lucid dreams” by juice wrld eligible for ballot three?

― comedy khadafi (voodoo chili), Thursday, November 10, 2022 1:36 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

this q was not a joke btw (well only half a joke)

ok, make an argument for its inclusion

Bee OK, Saturday, 12 November 2022 04:40 (one year ago) link

whole song is an interpolation of “shape of my heart” and sting is a credited writer

comedy khadafi (voodoo chili), Saturday, 12 November 2022 13:15 (one year ago) link

Mad that I am not the first person to post the amazing "Don't Care" by Klark Kent in this thread

Forgot about that.

Me and the Major on the Moon (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 12 November 2022 13:32 (one year ago) link

on the subject of songs sampling the Police, I would like to campaign (if eligible) for Talib Kweli ft John Legend - "Around My Way" - chorus is a heavy sample of "Every Little Thing She Does is Magic" verse and quite sublime imo. Don't know if it ends up with a writer's credit though

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Saturday, 12 November 2022 15:46 (one year ago) link

Regardless of how much you like the songs including samples - - why would you vote for something that the artist being polled had no intentionality or involvement in? Would you vote for "Can I Kick It?" in a VU/Lou Reed poll?

Hans Holbein (Chinchilla Volapük), Sunday, 13 November 2022 05:47 (one year ago) link

Hmm.

Me and the Major on the Moon (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 13 November 2022 06:49 (one year ago) link

Chinchilla what do you think the value and purpose of these polls is? I mean it’s not like Sting is going to be giving an acceptance speech when the #1 song is revealed.

In other words, just trying to spread good music around

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Sunday, 13 November 2022 16:49 (one year ago) link

Voted! This one was fun to think about. My first stab at a shortlist gave me 21 songs, so it wasn't hard to winnow down.

honestly have zero clue what my top 10's gonna look like. I really like a lot of the wonkier songs on Reggatta which are barely tunes but feature really cool playing, like "Contact" and "Deathwish"

frogbs, Monday, 14 November 2022 03:12 (one year ago) link

I'm not going to restrict anything here even if I do agree with Chinchilla Volapük.

Bee OK, Monday, 14 November 2022 20:56 (one year ago) link

So everything is opened up for you who wish to vote for samples in songs.

Bee OK, Monday, 14 November 2022 20:57 (one year ago) link

And don't forget King of Suede by Weird Al (credit: Sting, Yankovic).

everything, Monday, 14 November 2022 21:14 (one year ago) link

what about Velvet Elvis

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Monday, 14 November 2022 23:09 (one year ago) link

Sting's greatest performance as a solo artist is on Miles Davis's You're Under Arrest.

Voice [French Policeman] – Sting

but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 14 November 2022 23:21 (one year ago) link

what about Velvet Elvis

Sure, why not

Bee OK, Tuesday, 15 November 2022 19:20 (one year ago) link

tbc i'm not actually voting for any of these tracks. i participate in polls purely, just want to make sure all are aware of weird al's imo superior police parody

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Tuesday, 15 November 2022 19:26 (one year ago) link

still like this sting appearance:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNYwJP8Sfq4
eberhard schoener - why don't you answer?

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Tuesday, 15 November 2022 19:41 (one year ago) link

actually andy and stewart were on that too iirc?

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Tuesday, 15 November 2022 19:42 (one year ago) link

I might actively enjoy 10 solo tracks. At least half are Klark Kent.

billstevejim, Tuesday, 15 November 2022 19:50 (one year ago) link

what about Velvet Elvis

Better than Locked Out of Heaven.

billstevejim, Tuesday, 15 November 2022 19:54 (one year ago) link

I don't think I have the requisite ilm skilz to correctly vote in this poll, but Regatta de Blanc is (and forever shall be) my muthaflipping jam.

iliac crestfallen (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 15 November 2022 19:57 (one year ago) link

a nice eno-esque piece from the second album andy did w/ fripp:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZ7TQZgcscM
Andy Summers / RObert Fripp - Bewitched

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Tuesday, 15 November 2022 20:14 (one year ago) link

Forgot Oysterhead existed until now

billstevejim, Tuesday, 15 November 2022 20:27 (one year ago) link

have posted this before but andy plays on it and it absolutely smokes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_aAsg2UTZo
Eric Burdon & The Animals - Coloured Rain

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Tuesday, 15 November 2022 20:31 (one year ago) link

^ middle three minutes is just one epic guitar blaze up, not sure if it's andy or the other guy?

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Tuesday, 15 November 2022 20:32 (one year ago) link

I like "Radon Balloon" and "Birthday Boy" on the Oysterhead CD more than anything Phish ever did honestly

frogbs, Tuesday, 15 November 2022 20:36 (one year ago) link

Funny how a thread on the merits of the Police is mostly the Police as sidemen.

birdistheword, Tuesday, 15 November 2022 21:13 (one year ago) link

this is a track off stewart's first appearance on a record:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8w8ArmII-Y
Frolk Haven - Quest

weird fact: contains the lyrics "have you ever failed your part of the dream / as an organ of the soft machine?" - andy was previously a member of the soft machine but it didn't work out. synchronicity eh? would be a cooler story if he played the organ not the guitar though obv, but i guess mike ratledge had that job nailed down

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Tuesday, 15 November 2022 21:14 (one year ago) link

Ballots are trickling in, will send out conformation emails but not yet.

Bee OK, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 18:32 (one year ago) link

Underrated Sting appearance:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRLBIr5CBLI

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 19:09 (one year ago) link

those Fripp/Summers records are fantastic, both of them

sleeve, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 19:10 (one year ago) link

this is proving pretty hard!

comedy khadafi (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 16 November 2022 21:17 (one year ago) link

where is the love for 'all for love'?

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Wednesday, 16 November 2022 21:19 (one year ago) link

I have listened to each Police album twice now and getting that part of my ballot completed in my mind. Thanks everyone for the clips in this thread as the solo stuff is my next step.

Bee OK, Friday, 18 November 2022 19:01 (one year ago) link

I voted for two things off the Brimstone & Treacle soundtrack, and could have voted for more.

I will defend "Mother."

That is all.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 18 November 2022 19:13 (one year ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkB67-TIDsg

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 18 November 2022 20:02 (one year ago) link

I'm definitely voting for Mother. I mean come on.

billstevejim, Friday, 18 November 2022 20:19 (one year ago) link

definitely gonna try and bang out a ballot for this!!

the Kent 10" is full of great jams, with "Away From Home" being the best, next to "Don't Care":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99c8HMxtg-Q

as far as barely-eligible covers, samples, etc. go, i just want to share out The Blow's bedroom-pop interpretation of "Everything She Does is Magic," "Come on Petunia," which first grabbed me on a mixtape left behind in a well-intentioned but under-used DIY "recess center" in 2004:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MO1HSfzK1Ns

Doctor Casino, Friday, 18 November 2022 22:01 (one year ago) link

a lot of the best Klark Kent stuff isn't on the 10", you gotta get the Kollected Works CD for everything. if you like that stuff I highly recommend the Gizmodrome album, or even better the live album. I know a lot of people were disappointed in it but I think that was mostly because it was marketed as some crazy prog supergroup when it's really just Klark Kent with a better backing band.

frogbs, Friday, 18 November 2022 22:17 (one year ago) link

surprised myself by including three copeland songs on my longlist. one of them will def make my final ballot

comedy khadafi (voodoo chili), Friday, 18 November 2022 23:21 (one year ago) link

The Mother debate should be interesting and do wonder where it will end up.

Bee OK, Saturday, 19 November 2022 00:04 (one year ago) link

Controp: the stingster's contribution to long long way to go > his contribution to money for nothing

Although money for nothing is a better song

Sidenote: I first typed monet for nothing, and I giggled imagining a very good art transaction

ooh I wanna take ya to Topeka (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 19 November 2022 00:14 (one year ago) link

Also, I sing Come on Petunia to the tune of Billy Joel's "Only the Good Die Young."

Come on Petunia, don't make me wait

ooh I wanna take ya to Topeka (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 19 November 2022 00:16 (one year ago) link

Controp: the stingster's contribution to long long way to go > his contribution to money for nothing

otm

"Long Long Way to Go" is a better song and record.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 19 November 2022 16:03 (one year ago) link

Voted.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Saturday, 19 November 2022 16:26 (one year ago) link

Voted - I think this was the easiest ballot I've ever had to compile, 20 tracks is the perfect number for these guys.

Gavin, Leeds, Saturday, 19 November 2022 17:58 (one year ago) link

My earliest memory of the Police as a 6 or 7-year-old is that stark, glowering black and white image of them in their short blond hair and THE POLICE in big letters. A neighbour had a giant black sheet or towel of it hanging off his balcony. They looked like scary Nazis.

dinnerboat, Wednesday, 30 November 2022 14:12 (one year ago) link

hey is Reggatta de Blanc a play on “white reggae”?

I'm gonna continue to think of it as not, I have always liked those first three album titles as conveying the feel of some made-up Esperanto-like language. I sort of wish they'd kept up with it and called the next album Fantomo Machinisto or something

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 30 November 2022 15:42 (one year ago) link

My brother's review of the record for his college newspaper also said that the conventional title was evidence of a drop-off in quality.

Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 30 November 2022 18:46 (one year ago) link

lol. Trend of two.

Godley and Creamsicle (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 30 November 2022 20:19 (one year ago) link

30 years ago i asked a french-speaking friend what 'zenyatta mondatta' meant. without hesitation he responded 'high and mighty'

i think of this every single time i hear any song from the record

mookieproof, Wednesday, 30 November 2022 21:40 (one year ago) link

Very loosely translated, indeed

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 30 November 2022 21:55 (one year ago) link

I thought it was zenyatta = zenith, mondatta = world? in like a combo of 3 different languages

Reggatta is such an obnoxious title since it's the only instance I can find of that extra "g" being in there. probably not a big deal in pre-internet times but still annoying when you gotta spell it in say, the iTunes search

frogbs, Wednesday, 30 November 2022 22:01 (one year ago) link

I think it's just kind of made up.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 30 November 2022 22:05 (one year ago) link

I have to say I never knew that g was doubled

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 30 November 2022 22:05 (one year ago) link

Outlandos d'Amour is the truly genius one IMO

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 30 November 2022 22:06 (one year ago) link

"It means everything," he yelled back. "It's the same explanation that applies to the last two. It doesn’t have a specific meaning like ‘Police Brutality’ or ‘Police Arrest’, or anything predictable like that. Being vague it says a lot more. You can interpret it in a lot of different ways. It’s not an attempt to be mysterious, just syllables that sound good together, like the sound of a melody that has no words at all has a meaning."

https://web.archive.org/web/20030215094654/http://www.infinitedensity.net/music/copeland/Stingchronicity%20Interview%20Archive,%20Stewart%20Copeland%20interview,%20Musician's%20Only,%20Oct%201980.htm

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 30 November 2022 22:06 (one year ago) link

I have had a very intense week at work, there was no way I could have run this thing this week. It's after hours now and thinking about what ahead a bit. Confirmation emails are next then...I'm stuck on images and can't figure out what I want this poll to look like. So instead, I'm going to throw it out there. Does anyone want to help out with images? If so email this box and we will talk. I'm terrible at these type of things anyways, so any help would be amazing!

Bee OK, Thursday, 1 December 2022 03:26 (one year ago) link

Getting amped for this poll

Bee OK, Thursday, 1 December 2022 03:27 (one year ago) link

Email confirmations have been sent, if you did not get a reply please resend your ballot.

Bee OK, Friday, 2 December 2022 00:50 (one year ago) link

Sent!

Hideous Lump, Friday, 2 December 2022 05:53 (one year ago) link

was just going through a pile of disco records and wow, there's a strong resemblance between this bohannon-produced caroline crawford tune and 'demolition man':

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5FtxthqjnE

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Friday, 2 December 2022 13:07 (one year ago) link

whoa youre not wrong ha (and i dig it)

i'm right back on my shit (Hunt3r), Friday, 2 December 2022 15:36 (one year ago) link

Voted! Although I just realised I missed one of their best songs.

kitchen person, Friday, 2 December 2022 15:38 (one year ago) link

c'mon kp tell

i'm right back on my shit (Hunt3r), Friday, 2 December 2022 15:41 (one year ago) link

I forgot to vote for Driven To Tears which should have been top ten.

kitchen person, Friday, 2 December 2022 15:46 (one year ago) link

i will re-listen thx!

i'm right back on my shit (Hunt3r), Friday, 2 December 2022 15:50 (one year ago) link

Hello kitchen person, you may modify your ballot until you get the confirmation email which should be by tomorrow.

Bee OK, Friday, 2 December 2022 17:20 (one year ago) link

Only a few more hours to go...

Bee OK, Saturday, 3 December 2022 02:28 (one year ago) link

Hello kitchen person, you may modify your ballot until you get the confirmation email which should be by tomorrow.

― Bee OK

Thanks Bee! Just sent it.

kitchen person, Saturday, 3 December 2022 02:47 (one year ago) link

so Andy played all the parts on "Behind My Camel"? if so is he trying to imitate the way Stewart rides the hi-hat? kinda funny

frogbs, Sunday, 4 December 2022 03:36 (one year ago) link

three months pass...

i just came searching for something about that guitar figure in TMI. glad to find comments. damn i love that songs like, construction.

liberal with a capital LIE (Hunt3r), Monday, 27 March 2023 14:55 (one year ago) link


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