U.S. Politics, November 2022: “I don’t know, you hear the same things I do”

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Hangover from the Cuomo era ending in flames?

ex-McKinsey wonk who looks like a human version of a rat (Eric H.), Thursday, 10 November 2022 16:24 (one year ago) link

Hangover from the Cuomo era ending in flames?

Very much not JUST that, I'm not the most expert diagnostician but there's plenty of blame to share.

Spread among Cuomo's governing as a Republican and trying to annihilate anything to his left (the Working Families Party for ex), Eric Adams messaging NONSTOP about crime & appealing to the racism of white ethics in the mayoral race, Jay Jacobs the Dem state chair not lifting a finger or spending a single dollar in 2021 to support the good-governance ballot initiatives that would have expanded voting rights (Republicans spent big on a media campaign to defeat them btw WHICH SUCCEEDED), and Sean Patrick Maloney being so selfish and short-sighted that he shot down the career of rising star Mondaire Jones in order to supplant him in a re-districted senate district and then being so uninspiring that he lost his race, leaving Dems down a senate seat. Fuck.

Ima Gardener (in orbit), Thursday, 10 November 2022 16:33 (one year ago) link

For more about why Jay Jacobs is terrible and should resign, see here: https://www.gothamgazette.com/130-opinion/10906-jay-jacobs-new-york-pro-democracy-movement

Ima Gardener (in orbit), Thursday, 10 November 2022 16:34 (one year ago) link

DeSantis? More like De-Can't With This.

Every time I see something about DeSantis he is going all-in on "woke." He uses the word "woke" more than Smurfs use "smurf." But most people don't give a shit about "woke," and once he goes national and isn't protected by his people and is actually asked to define "woke" and shoots himself in the dick, he could be done.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 November 2022 16:35 (one year ago) link

tbh two years to go but neither strikes me as a strong national candidate.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 10 November 2022 16:47 (one year ago) link

seems a little on the nose, even for him

Trump is on a tear over on Truth Social, saying all sorts of things this morning, attacking Fox and various news outlets and calling people various names. He does not like the coverage of the results, as it relates to him. One of the posts ends: "Remember, I am a stable genius."

— Josh Dawsey (@jdawsey1) November 10, 2022

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 10 November 2022 17:20 (one year ago) link

So was Mr. Ed.

blissfully unawarewolf (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 10 November 2022 17:23 (one year ago) link

I might have chimed in on the Rhonda thing yesterday and I apologize.

a (waterface), Thursday, 10 November 2022 17:28 (one year ago) link

Yeah do the GOP really think Trump will quietly accept Lil Ron being the new standard bearer? He’s not a party man who will accept a new leader “for the good of the party” (and I highly doubt DeSantis has what it takes to be a national figure) and his entire life is motivated by revenge against real and perceived personal slights.

Lord Pickles (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 10 November 2022 17:48 (one year ago) link

He will finally destroy the party like Lindsay predicted, and boy do they deserve it

bible fumes (stevie), Thursday, 10 November 2022 17:49 (one year ago) link

However I do want see Trump run third party, this clearing the way for Biden’s decomposing corpse to sail to an historic landslide.

Lord Pickles (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 10 November 2022 17:50 (one year ago) link

re: DeSantis, he's a popular candidate within Florida, but we also spend a lot of times in swamps and watching people drive in circles for hours, so whoooooooo knows how well it would transfer to the national stage.

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Thursday, 10 November 2022 17:50 (one year ago) link

major upset in Colorado District 8, Dem candidate won despite having less than 3% chance.

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Thursday, 10 November 2022 17:50 (one year ago) link

And @laurenboebert just took the lead from @AdamForColorado by 386 votes as of 5 minutes ago.

First update of the day, more on their way as more votes are put in. @CBSNewsColorado pic.twitter.com/GdqU5lfSgA

— Spencer Wilson (@Spencer_WNews) November 10, 2022

ex-McKinsey wonk who looks like a human version of a rat (Eric H.), Thursday, 10 November 2022 17:56 (one year ago) link

You take the good you take the bad

ex-McKinsey wonk who looks like a human version of a rat (Eric H.), Thursday, 10 November 2022 17:56 (one year ago) link

"But most people don't give a shit about "woke,"

I don't know about this.

akm, Thursday, 10 November 2022 17:59 (one year ago) link

I think they deeply care about 'woke' without having any idea what it means

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 10 November 2022 18:03 (one year ago) link

something somethning about litter boxes in the classroom.. if I ain't fer it, I'm agin it!

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 10 November 2022 18:04 (one year ago) link

^^^ was about to type the same. Even if they can't properly define it, it fuels their racist grievances.

Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 10 November 2022 18:04 (one year ago) link

NYS background about how the state chair, currently the bad and hated Jay Jacobs, is elected by members of the State Democratic Committee, which is made up of District Leaders from every Assembly District in the state. These seats are filled by election during the primary ONLY, they don't go to the General. And if the party-backed candidates are running unopposed, they won't even appear on the ballot, they'll just be slotted into their seats without anyone ever actually voting for them.

So basically flip your District Leaders and we can flip the state leadership.

Ok! I see that you are now aware that the State Democratic Party (and its Chair, Jay Jacobs) are largely to blame for the Democrats doing so poorly in NY this year.

And now you want to do something about it!

Here's where to start. 🧵

— Brian P. Mangan (@brianpmangan) November 10, 2022

Ima Gardener (in orbit), Thursday, 10 November 2022 18:07 (one year ago) link

useful link for anyone with election brain worms (not a needle)

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/11/10/us/elections/results-house-seats-elections-congress.html

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 10 November 2022 18:11 (one year ago) link

I think they deeply care about 'woke' without having any idea what it means

I saw a guy complaining about Star Trek Discovery's wokeness yesterday and in the same sentence acknowledged original Trek's legacy 'but this is different' - the actual 'wokeness' (representation, social issues dealt with via fiction) isn't even the objectionable part to a lot of them, it's just inchoate anger at and disdain for anything in the society/culture that seems to have passed them by.

papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 10 November 2022 18:12 (one year ago) link

it's just inchoate anger at and disdain for anything in the society/culture that seems to have passed them by.

perfect example of that: https://www.theguardian.com/music/2022/nov/10/heckler-gets-life-ban-from-royal-opera-house-for-shouting-rubbish-at-child-actor

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 10 November 2022 18:15 (one year ago) link

Words like 'woke' aren't evergreen so DeSantis will have to pivot at some point to the newest threat against cranky old codgers who want to live in a Norman Rockwell calendar

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 10 November 2022 18:16 (one year ago) link

xp god that reminded me of this gem:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnQGuyxB01o

ex-McKinsey wonk who looks like a human version of a rat (Eric H.), Thursday, 10 November 2022 18:17 (one year ago) link

I went to watch Gina Carano lift weights and yelled "Albatross!" over and over til she threw a dumbbell at me

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Thursday, 10 November 2022 18:19 (one year ago) link

Oh and Mike Lindell's at it again:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CkuveTxuIfd/

(Claims Walz stole the MN gov. election from Jensen.)

ex-McKinsey wonk who looks like a human version of a rat (Eric H.), Thursday, 10 November 2022 18:19 (one year ago) link

#thingsiwishihaddone

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Thursday, 10 November 2022 18:19 (one year ago) link

Lindell's at it again:

he's never not at it

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 10 November 2022 18:24 (one year ago) link

re: DeSantis, he's a popular candidate within Florida, but we also spend a lot of times in swamps and watching people drive in circles for hours, so whoooooooo knows how well it would transfer to the national stage.

The rest of America's feelings about Florida (not good; cf. "Florida Man") are an underappreciated factor here, too. What plays well down there is likely to play very poorly elsewhere precisely because it plays well down there. It's sort of the mirror image of Rudy thinking he could be President because 9/11, while conveniently forgetting how much the rest of the country hates New York and all its leaders, regardless of party.

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 10 November 2022 18:26 (one year ago) link

^ ^ ^

DeSantis has less charm than a crusty (and you know why) gym sock stuffed under a racist mattress.

poppin' debussy (the table is the table), Thursday, 10 November 2022 18:28 (one year ago) link

Exit Neanderthal and Lord Soto, chased by a gator

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 November 2022 18:30 (one year ago) link

xpost Now that you mention it, I don't think I've ever seen a mattress that wasn't white. Or at least that wasn't supposed to be white.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 November 2022 18:31 (one year ago) link

conveniently forgetting how much the rest of the country hates New York

Gavin Newsom is similarly deluded - just because people like Pixar & DisneyLand doesn't mean they want a Californian to be president

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 10 November 2022 18:31 (one year ago) link

xpost I've seen grey mattresses recently - maybe at Ikea

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 10 November 2022 18:32 (one year ago) link

Seen plenty of white sheets though.

pplains, Thursday, 10 November 2022 18:32 (one year ago) link

Exit Neanderthal and Lord Soto, chased by a gator snapping at their rear ends

ex-McKinsey wonk who looks like a human version of a rat (Eric H.), Thursday, 10 November 2022 18:32 (one year ago) link

oh brutha

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 November 2022 18:34 (one year ago) link

He ain't gon git me

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Thursday, 10 November 2022 18:34 (one year ago) link

Gavin Newsom is similarly deluded - just because people like Pixar & DisneyLand doesn't mean they want a Californian to be president

― Andy the Grasshopper

Not a Democratic one, anyway.

nickn, Thursday, 10 November 2022 18:37 (one year ago) link

How do you know when a Floridian is confused?

Their mouth is moving

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Thursday, 10 November 2022 18:37 (one year ago) link

Newsom can't win the presidency, he won't even win the nomination, and this photograph is one reason why

Never forget that Kimberly Guilfoyle and her then-husband Gavin Newsom posed on a rug for a Harper's Bazaar story calling them "The New Kennedys." pic.twitter.com/0QxMdNv4Bw

— Ellie Hall (@ellievhall) August 25, 2020

akm, Thursday, 10 November 2022 18:42 (one year ago) link

i'm not sure i agree with the argument that desantis wouldn't be accepted by conservatives nationwide. i have no idea what 60% of florida voters see in him, but florida's population is more diverse than most red states and they all seem to have loved what he stands for. pretty creepy, and sounds like something that people here in missouri will eagerly lap up. a strong majority of people here voted for these two guys on purpose
https://i.imgur.com/QeuURvb.jpg

Karl Malone, Thursday, 10 November 2022 18:44 (one year ago) link

Newsom would have to run in '24 or '28 against the K-Hive. Not happening.

papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 10 November 2022 18:45 (one year ago) link

based on his moves in state politics over the past 6-12 months, he thinks it is.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 10 November 2022 18:49 (one year ago) link

I hope Whitmer runs. I like Pritzker too for a rich guy.

akm, Thursday, 10 November 2022 18:53 (one year ago) link

Polis also. Any of them are more electable than Newsom.

akm, Thursday, 10 November 2022 18:54 (one year ago) link

(I say that as someone who basically likes Newsom.)

akm, Thursday, 10 November 2022 18:55 (one year ago) link

So kimberly guilfoyle was the new Jackie O, love it

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 10 November 2022 18:55 (one year ago) link


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