U.S. Politics, November 2022: “I don’t know, you hear the same things I do”

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stirking imagery

nashwan, Thursday, 10 November 2022 00:15 (one year ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/BrF6ohR.jpg

sleeve, Thursday, 10 November 2022 00:18 (one year ago) link

for some reason this infographic is kind of cracking me up

https://i.imgur.com/IeF4qwD.png

Karl Malone, Thursday, 10 November 2022 00:19 (one year ago) link

^^^ amazing

sleeve, Thursday, 10 November 2022 00:20 (one year ago) link

looks like there will be an automatic recount of the Frisch / Boebert race, unless one of them widens their lead

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 10 November 2022 00:27 (one year ago) link

I need to see an infographic of the infographic trends! at what points in the day yesterday were influencers promoting and retweeting infographics? How far up our own asses can we go??!

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Thursday, 10 November 2022 00:30 (one year ago) link

xxp lol sleeve

am afraid with late votes Kari Lake might end up being Arizona's next governor, ugh

Dan S, Thursday, 10 November 2022 00:36 (one year ago) link

Heh

#PASen Republican Dr Oz raised another $5.5M in the first 19 days of October, including $1.5M in candidate loans.

Adding in the $4 million more he's loaned his campaign in the last few days, he's now put ~$26.8 million of his own money into his campaign.https://t.co/mBDqrfX6Pj pic.twitter.com/ftK77CAZGn

— Rob Pyers (@rpyers) October 27, 2022

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 10 November 2022 01:14 (one year ago) link

He’ll make it back shilling potions and powders on Fox News.

papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 10 November 2022 02:12 (one year ago) link

“The former governor stacked New York’s highest court with conservatives who hijacked the state’s redistricting process”
Andrew Cuomo

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2022/11/2022-midterms-new-york-republicans-cuomo-maloney.html

curmudgeon, Thursday, 10 November 2022 05:11 (one year ago) link

Also hurting Dems in the house was Supreme Court gerrymandering decision

If Republicans win control of the House of Representatives by current projections, their victory can be attributed to the Supreme Court's 5–4 order in February suspending the Voting Rights Act's ban on racial gerrymandering. https://t.co/lZ2QVWw3k5

— Mark Joseph Stern (@mjs_DC) November 9, 2022

curmudgeon, Thursday, 10 November 2022 05:41 (one year ago) link

Some House Republicans, like Rep. Thomas Massie, R-Ky., are "just as happy with a slim majority" because it would benefit them, Politico reported.

"I mean, look at what Joe Manchin has done in the Senate as the one deciding vote, right? I would love for the Massie caucus to be relevant. If there's a one seat majority, my caucus has one person. It's me. So I can decide whether a bill passes or not," Massie told the outlet. "I'd be the wrong guy if you're trying to find somebody who's heartbroken that we don't have a 40-seat majority."

Far-right extremists like Greene and Rep. Paul Gosar, R-Ariz., both of whom have spoken at white nationalist conferences, would have more sway in a tight GOP House.

earlnash, Thursday, 10 November 2022 06:14 (one year ago) link

What a bunch of fxxks.

earlnash, Thursday, 10 November 2022 06:17 (one year ago) link

Fuckin dummy, Manchin had more sway because Dems had both chambers so he could threaten to kill something that would otherwise pass both chambers.

If Dems retain Senate, most Republican bills that pass the House are DOA in the Senate anyway, so why would they bother to appease you when it's dead without your objection anyway.

(Yes I'm aware Senate isn't guaranteed as of yet, but...just sayin)

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Thursday, 10 November 2022 06:21 (one year ago) link

Thinking with his glock

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Thursday, 10 November 2022 06:22 (one year ago) link

If only there were a bill currently sitting in the Democratic-controlled Senate that would all but automatically award the Democrats one more House member https://t.co/AchYHqNFuE

— Tom Scocca (@tomscocca) November 9, 2022

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 10 November 2022 09:12 (one year ago) link

So Boebert is still down by around ... 60 votes?

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 November 2022 13:13 (one year ago) link

Supposedly the certainty some forecasters had about her losing was based on misinformation about how many ballots were still outstanding in one of the counties that was later corrected.

Wasserman got cranky last night

FWIW, anyone who’s proclaimed they’ve seen enough in #CO03 doesn’t know how to interpret election data.

— Dave Wasserman (@Redistrict) November 10, 2022

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Thursday, 10 November 2022 13:34 (one year ago) link

After last night's NV mail ballot trend, excellent chance now that Dems will have 50 Senate seats/control in hand heading into the GA runoff.

— Dave Wasserman (@Redistrict) November 10, 2022

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Thursday, 10 November 2022 13:35 (one year ago) link

If that's true, then Georgia Republicans have even less reason to come out; they'll be demoralized.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 November 2022 13:46 (one year ago) link

Assuming Mark Kelly's lead holds.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 10 November 2022 13:51 (one year ago) link

Wasserman seems pretty confident that it will

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Thursday, 10 November 2022 13:53 (one year ago) link

Based on where the remaining votes to be counted remain

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Thursday, 10 November 2022 13:53 (one year ago) link

If that's true, then Georgia Republicans have even less reason to come out; they'll be demoralized.

I always wonder about this, about what will deaden the vote more - the idea that your side are gonna lose anyway, or the myth that they're so far ahead you can peace out on voting and someone else will have done the work for you.

bible fumes (stevie), Thursday, 10 November 2022 14:07 (one year ago) link

Whether he wins the nomination or not DeSantis has already won the hearts and minds of Richard Littlecock and other UK right wing wankers/pundits.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-11409775/RICHARD-LITTLEJOHN-stunning-victory-Florida-Ron-DeSantis-Americas-best-hope.html

Fronted by a bearded Phil Collins (Tom D.), Thursday, 10 November 2022 14:43 (one year ago) link

Murdoch's fully rejecting Trump, too.

bible fumes (stevie), Thursday, 10 November 2022 14:49 (one year ago) link

I think Murdoch et al may be hurting DeSantis going all-in so early. Trump's injected too much paranoia into the party for that to work.

Chris L, Thursday, 10 November 2022 14:54 (one year ago) link

I don't think they are going to be able to separate from Trump very easily, but I'm looking forward to much hilarity as they try

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 10 November 2022 14:55 (one year ago) link

Maybe Murdoch won't live to see the day

bible fumes (stevie), Thursday, 10 November 2022 15:00 (one year ago) link

I mean, if we're all giddy with optimism at the moment...

bible fumes (stevie), Thursday, 10 November 2022 15:00 (one year ago) link

Well, it's likely he'll at least outlive Twitter

Chris L, Thursday, 10 November 2022 15:02 (one year ago) link

The thing that worries me about a DeSantis run is he's the perfect storm evolution of Trump. He has little of DJT's ineptitude, he has been able to fire people who won't play ball and install key loyalists at key positions without the drama that derailed Trump.

He also won over a lot of dumb independents by playing to "freedom", how he refused to lock us down/mandate masks/etc while other states were still doing so

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Thursday, 10 November 2022 15:03 (one year ago) link

He will definitely try to appear to be the "competent fascist" we've been warned will come down the pike after Trump, even though that's all a media-enabled illusion.

Trouble is, for many of the Trump die-hards who go to the rallies, who didn't previously vote, it seemed like he was the most colorful thing to enter into their lives in some time, in addition to finally have candidate bullying and hateful enough for their liking. Trump will have to re-create or DeSantis will have to find a way to create that sort of excitement.

Chris L, Thursday, 10 November 2022 15:12 (one year ago) link

What was DeSantis's main talking point yesterday? That he won as a rebuke to "woke." He is very much attempting to lean into the Trump qualities he can muster.

ex-McKinsey wonk who looks like a human version of a rat (Eric H.), Thursday, 10 November 2022 15:16 (one year ago) link

I’ve seen a lot of points like this which book down to: he’s weird and he’s not a national candidate. No idea if true.

the thing about desantis that i think is overlooked when discussing his national potential is that he is a genuine crank, and a humorless one at that pic.twitter.com/H0KxQn3Ecf

— b-boy bouiebaisse (@jbouie) August 9, 2022

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 10 November 2022 15:24 (one year ago) link

One of my Trumpiest local elected officials:

I’m thankful for what President Trump did for this country during his Presidency. However, 2 years of the below is not the path forward for victory in 2024.
The GOP does need a bold, decisive, proven, unifying conservative leader. That man is now @RonDeSantisFL. pic.twitter.com/DPFdrGVsNo

— Rep. Jason Zachary (@JasonZacharyTN) November 9, 2022

To which all I can say is *popcorn gif*

From the outside, DeSantis really looks like the villain in a straight-to-videocassette action movie.

pplains, Thursday, 10 November 2022 15:28 (one year ago) link

(Biden got 5.3 million in Florida, so... ?)

pplains, Thursday, 10 November 2022 15:29 (one year ago) link

Now that everyone sees the full extent to which Trump is a liability even when he's NOT on the ballot, the next couple months are going to be lots of new and unexpected fun for him

https://www.startribune.com/trump-urged-to-delay-2024-launch-after-gops-uneven-election/600223943/

ex-McKinsey wonk who looks like a human version of a rat (Eric H.), Thursday, 10 November 2022 15:44 (one year ago) link

Gonna say it: maybe changing the asshole’s name to a female version of the name isn’t the best strategy, iykwim. I know it’s just stupid but really, we have to do better than associate weakness and stupidity with women.

Plus Rhonda is a kickass name, don’t let anyone tell you differently.

― poppin' debussy (the table is the table), Wednesday, November 9, 2022 11:10 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

Thanks, tabes. I thought this yesterday as the "riff" was happening but my bar for much of what remains of ilx is already pretty low and anyway it was boring and not what I come to this thread for so I skated past and didn't say anything, but...thank you.

Ima Gardener (in orbit), Thursday, 10 November 2022 15:49 (one year ago) link

I apologize for climbing aboard with a lame riff on the Rhonda trend. Thank you for the gut check

ex-McKinsey wonk who looks like a human version of a rat (Eric H.), Thursday, 10 November 2022 15:50 (one year ago) link

shouldn't it be said that in 2020, i got 1.1 million more votes in Florida than Ron D got this year?

i wonder if he realizes that in 2020 it was a presidential election and that this year is a midterm. i've heard there are differences in turnout!

Karl Malone, Thursday, 10 November 2022 15:50 (one year ago) link

there's a multiplicative factors function somewhere to compare the two that's like "dirtbag and asshole appeal-charisma" x "competent bj provider to big money" that will be determinative in the primary xp

i'm right back on my shit (Hunt3r), Thursday, 10 November 2022 15:50 (one year ago) link

The way the rest of the activated around Dem policies and leadership in such an inspiring way and NY State was a wasteland of neglected competitive races and the NYSDC doing NOTHING is, I hope, going to bring A LOT OF SCRUTINY to how broken the party is here. Bring it the fuck on.

Ima Gardener (in orbit), Thursday, 10 November 2022 15:54 (one year ago) link

*the rest of the country (YAY MICHIGAN!!)

Ima Gardener (in orbit), Thursday, 10 November 2022 15:54 (one year ago) link

Hangover from the Cuomo era ending in flames?

ex-McKinsey wonk who looks like a human version of a rat (Eric H.), Thursday, 10 November 2022 16:24 (one year ago) link

Hangover from the Cuomo era ending in flames?

Very much not JUST that, I'm not the most expert diagnostician but there's plenty of blame to share.

Spread among Cuomo's governing as a Republican and trying to annihilate anything to his left (the Working Families Party for ex), Eric Adams messaging NONSTOP about crime & appealing to the racism of white ethics in the mayoral race, Jay Jacobs the Dem state chair not lifting a finger or spending a single dollar in 2021 to support the good-governance ballot initiatives that would have expanded voting rights (Republicans spent big on a media campaign to defeat them btw WHICH SUCCEEDED), and Sean Patrick Maloney being so selfish and short-sighted that he shot down the career of rising star Mondaire Jones in order to supplant him in a re-districted senate district and then being so uninspiring that he lost his race, leaving Dems down a senate seat. Fuck.

Ima Gardener (in orbit), Thursday, 10 November 2022 16:33 (one year ago) link

For more about why Jay Jacobs is terrible and should resign, see here: https://www.gothamgazette.com/130-opinion/10906-jay-jacobs-new-york-pro-democracy-movement

Ima Gardener (in orbit), Thursday, 10 November 2022 16:34 (one year ago) link

DeSantis? More like De-Can't With This.

Every time I see something about DeSantis he is going all-in on "woke." He uses the word "woke" more than Smurfs use "smurf." But most people don't give a shit about "woke," and once he goes national and isn't protected by his people and is actually asked to define "woke" and shoots himself in the dick, he could be done.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 November 2022 16:35 (one year ago) link


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