U.S. Politics, November 2022: “I don’t know, you hear the same things I do”

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that is excellent news! as are the results in VT, MI, and CA

rob, Wednesday, 9 November 2022 16:10 (one year ago) link

Good. Them and Michigan and ... Montana? Almost Montana? I'm surprised there was not a (more) extreme law on the ballot in Florida, unless there was and I missed it.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 9 November 2022 16:12 (one year ago) link

It'll depend entirely on how gerrymandered the Electoral College is

Chris L, Wednesday, 9 November 2022 16:15 (one year ago) link

Obviously, we don't know yet what the House is going to look like. But if the Republicans end up with control by seven seats or fewer, it seems like we ought to talk about how #SCOTUS's orders in the Alabama and Louisiana cases helped to make that happen:https://t.co/yRyWngZnOV

— Steve Vladeck (@steve_vladeck) November 9, 2022

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 9 November 2022 16:15 (one year ago) link

RE: DeSantis I believe the stuff upthread about him having no charisma, but I feel stuff like keeping the beaches open during a pandemic and flying immigrants to Martha's Vineyard *is* a malevolent cult-of-personality thing that he has that other GOP hopefuls don't. Shitty base loves shitty behavior. I don't know that that could translate to success in a national election, but then I never thought Trump could win.

Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 16:23 (one year ago) link

But I'm deferring to Alfred's wisdom on this one.

Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 16:23 (one year ago) link

There are conservatives in Florida that outright love him. I've seen DeSantis hats in the wild

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 16:30 (one year ago) link

I didn't think Trump would win but I understand his appeal to dirtbags. I understand DeSantis' appeal too.

I have no wisdom when the Florida Democratic Party set out to lose these elections.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 16:31 (one year ago) link

A couple of local races that are important to me are leaning red at the moment, and there are enough mail-in and provisional ballots to potentially swing them, but apparently our Board of Elections won't even start counting mail-ins and provisionals until Thursday. :/

peace, man, Wednesday, 9 November 2022 16:36 (one year ago) link

Crist needs to be locked in a basement for four years. Sodded two important elections for us now

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 16:36 (one year ago) link

I know I live in a very blue city in a solidly blue state, so it's not necessarily indicative of things elsewhere, but I was frankly stunned by the turnout here. I waited in line nearly a full hour, which is very significantly longer than I've ever had to wait in the 15 years I've lived here.

On the hyper local level, glad our City voted for ranked choice local elections for primaries and runoffs starting in 2025!

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 16:37 (one year ago) link

I'm not a highly paid political consultant, but I could have told Florida Democrats that running Charlie Crist against DeSantis would not end well at all.

Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 16:44 (one year ago) link

I'm so proud I asked him a rude question in May 2021 after he showed up to our meeting in a park wearing a full suit.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 16:51 (one year ago) link

man that Pritziker speech is really something

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 16:51 (one year ago) link

exp the issue in Iowa was that the state party leadership is stuck on some idea of what a "good candidate" for governor would be and I don't think a lot of people have a coherent vision of what that'd be, nor would they recognize one

it's completely possible that name recognition can build by running for different elected positions or by trying again, but it just doesn't seem to be working. it looks like Stacey Abrams got less of the vote than her last run in Georgia

mh, Wednesday, 9 November 2022 16:52 (one year ago) link

sorry, that was meant to be an xxxxxxpost

mh, Wednesday, 9 November 2022 16:56 (one year ago) link

seems like the new normal is the Republican base will never, ever vote for a Democrat for elected office but are happy to vote for very liberal policies via referendum

Jaime Pressly and America (f. hazel), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 17:10 (one year ago) link

that's how Cubans think too

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 17:13 (one year ago) link

Yeah, that JB speech was great.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 9 November 2022 17:21 (one year ago) link

Roll this man at the 2024 GOP field like a bowling ball pic.twitter.com/XP3WM5Fd9M

— Screamer Jim (@HeheWaitWhut) June 27, 2022

i would go to war for this billionaire

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 17:27 (one year ago) link

Yep, this is happening. Lauren Boebert is going down in #CO03. Massive upset by @AdamForColorado, a major defeat for the MAGA movement and a pretty big win for basic common sense and constituent services -- h/t @GalenMetzger1 and @Thorongil16 for tracking this and calling it.

— Lakshya Jain (@lxeagle17) November 9, 2022

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 17:28 (one year ago) link

Yessssssssssssss

realistic pillow (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 17:29 (one year ago) link

seen a few people point out that the GOP majority will likely depend on cuomo ratfucking redistricting in NY. on the other hand, one would hope those new NY reps will be reluctant to e.g. impeach for the lols.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 17:30 (one year ago) link

the GOP in colorado (not just boebert) absolutely ate shit. extremely gratifying.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 17:30 (one year ago) link

It's fascinating and depressing to see how Colorado, once reliably red, has blued up.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 17:33 (one year ago) link

....while Florida, well.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 17:33 (one year ago) link

Colorado is walking so Arizona can run maybe

ex-McKinsey wonk who looks like a human version of a rat (Eric H.), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 17:34 (one year ago) link

Minnesota's results are still close enough that I'd still call it a "swing state," but man, GOP just can't win statewide races here for shit

ex-McKinsey wonk who looks like a human version of a rat (Eric H.), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 17:34 (one year ago) link

extremely good

Colorado has eliminated means-testing on the free school lunch program. Let’s gooooo! https://t.co/tOllyDX2SO

— James Medlock (@jdcmedlock) November 9, 2022

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 17:36 (one year ago) link

In terms of electoral power, Colorado Republicans were already at their post-WW2 low point — then took a drubbing tonight. Losing races they planned to win, getting demolished in some supposed toss-ups.

Honestly don’t know where they go from here.

— Alex Burness (@alex_burness) November 9, 2022

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 17:38 (one year ago) link

has anybody reliable actually called the race for Frisch over Boebert? that tweet is all I've seen.

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 17:38 (one year ago) link

no

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 17:40 (one year ago) link

no

I was stoking enthusiasm

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 17:43 (one year ago) link

Gotcha.

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 17:44 (one year ago) link

looks like warnock/walker is almost certainly going to a runoff, and, if AZ and NV are split, it would decide the senate majority. reasons for optimism: it's a month away (Dec 6), additional national attention and being required to talk on camera does not help walker, and trump is probably going to announce in the interim

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 9 November 2022 17:44 (one year ago) link

would be in favor of letting him back on Twitter today and today only

frogbs, Wednesday, 9 November 2022 17:54 (one year ago) link

The Boebert news made my month.

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 17:55 (one year ago) link

the enthusiasm has been stoked! but it's not official yet :-o

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 9 November 2022 17:57 (one year ago) link

when is Trump not livid and screaming

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 17:58 (one year ago) link

Is anyone maintaining a list of election deniers who are denying losing this election?

ex-McKinsey wonk who looks like a human version of a rat (Eric H.), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 17:59 (one year ago) link

no because I am denying lists exist

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 18:00 (one year ago) link

in the future, when he will no longer exist. the amount of time in the universe without him will be infinitely more than the years that included him
xp

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 9 November 2022 18:00 (one year ago) link

two can play this game!

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 18:00 (one year ago) link

i'm heartened by the losses of some of the more prominent election deniers (mastriano, the AZ crew). a big one definitely just got elected here in missouri, though, and it wasn't particularly close. eric schmitt, who is a real....a real piece of...there's something, hold on, a reaaaaaaaal pieeeece of something, i can't think of what it is right now

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 9 November 2022 18:02 (one year ago) link

WOah. Just had another Dr. Oz dream. This time he was crying

— wint (@dril) September 26, 2011

papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 18:02 (one year ago) link

he reminds me of Scott Pruitt, another attorney general who made it to the big time. Scott Pruitt and Eric Schmitt, who are two pieces of gigantic overwhelmingly putrid and flagrantly foul...something

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 9 November 2022 18:05 (one year ago) link

While we're riding on vibes...

Simple answer based on how everything is going at the moment suggests Democrats hold the House. Wouldn’t be too surprised. It’s going to take a while before there are enough official calls to indicate that, but the trend seems clear.

— Harrison Lavelle (@HWLavelleMaps) November 9, 2022

ex-McKinsey wonk who looks like a human version of a rat (Eric H.), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 18:05 (one year ago) link

"How could you look at these results tonight and conclude Trump has any chance of winning a national election in 2024?" Scott Jennings, a former advisor to Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, said in an early Wednesday tweet.

heheheh

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 9 November 2022 18:08 (one year ago) link

didn't Maloney lose in NY?

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 18:08 (one year ago) link


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