U.S. Politics, November 2022: “I don’t know, you hear the same things I do”

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And yes I'm knocking on every piece of wood in my house eat my ass

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 13:26 (one year ago) link

and it also means Biden can nominate judges and judges. Sotomayor better start drafting her resignation letter.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 13:26 (one year ago) link

Why?

put a VONC on it (suzy), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 13:43 (one year ago) link

and it also means Biden can nominate judges and judges. Sotomayor better start drafting her resignation letter.

Fuck that noise. Time to replace some of them. There's a D-voting military sniper somewhere in the ranks; find him.

but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 13:43 (one year ago) link

Sotomayor has diabetes. Not disabling but a worry.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 13:50 (one year ago) link

Completely bizarre rationale.

after several days on “the milk,” (gyac), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 13:51 (one year ago) link

Sotomayor is 68; she'll turn 70 in 2024. given the electoral calculus here, it makes sense to me, why risk another RBG situation? you can pick someone just as rad to replace her

rob, Wednesday, 9 November 2022 13:53 (one year ago) link

I'd rather they spend time hiding around corners, waiting for Thomas and Alito, then jumping out and yelling "boo!"

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 9 November 2022 13:56 (one year ago) link

Sotomayor is 68; she'll turn 70 in 2024. given the electoral calculus here, it makes sense to me, why risk another RBG situation? you can pick someone just as rad to replace her

― rob,

Exactly. Nominate a younger candidate.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 13:57 (one year ago) link

Sorry. I have no mercy after how RBG fucked us over.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 13:57 (one year ago) link

Sotomayor strikes me as one to manage her diabetes and her service responsibly. Her life story as far as I have heard is pretty amazing given the initimidation that could have happened and of which she might not have been fully aware at the time.

youn, Wednesday, 9 November 2022 14:00 (one year ago) link

She's my favorite justice: the best interlocutor, the opinion writer who most gets what's at stake.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 14:03 (one year ago) link

I'd thought Madison Cawthorn was the first Gen Z member of Congress, but I guess he was born in 1995 and the conventional dividing line is 1996. Maxwell Frost was born in 1997. Good for him.

jaymc, Wednesday, 9 November 2022 14:05 (one year ago) link

and an unabashed progressive

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 14:06 (one year ago) link

xp
I didn't know Sotomayor had diabetes, and I don't think that matters; for me her age is sufficient cause for general concern (fwiw, here in Canada the mandatory retirement age for SC justices is 75). She's an excellent justice and a truly admirable person who doesn't deserve to be pushed towards retirement. But she's also only one person, and she isn't more important than civil rights for LGBTQ people, reproductive freedom, etc etc.

I'm no utilitarian, but I don't understand elevating one person's career autonomy above the needs of so so so many other people. Basically, SC justices have far too much power, which isn't her fault of course, but can't we recognize that as a fact and respond accordingly?

rob, Wednesday, 9 November 2022 14:08 (one year ago) link

There’s no way to expand the court rather than forcing a woman out of her job? Is that right?

after several days on “the milk,” (gyac), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 14:12 (one year ago) link

Are there conservative justices who are older and also have chronic conditions?

put a VONC on it (suzy), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 14:13 (one year ago) link

I think the point is that those guys wouldn’t resign, so Sotomayor has to take one for the team. Cos that’s reasonable.

after several days on “the milk,” (gyac), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 14:14 (one year ago) link

Thomas has congenital fascism.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 14:14 (one year ago) link

There’s no way to expand the court rather than forcing a woman out of her job? Is that right?

― after several days on “the milk,” (gyac)

No. It would shock me if Biden didn't replace Sotomayor with a woman.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 14:15 (one year ago) link

Better hope she’s 100% healthy and stays that way!

after several days on “the milk,” (gyac), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 14:16 (one year ago) link

How many others would a mandatory retirement age of hypothetically 75 (regardless of preexisting conditions) disqualify?

youn, Wednesday, 9 November 2022 14:18 (one year ago) link

I understand these objections, but are you all not worried about the prospect of a GOP president in 2024 getting to replace Sotomayor? I'm just going by recent history here.

I'm court-packing-curious, but that doesn't seem likely to happen any time soon for a variety of reasons; all three liberal justices are women so there isn't a male option to suggest; and yeah sorry "our team" has no sway over the other six fascists, I don't know what to say about that. obviously I would strongly prefer if they all died in a series of increasingly embarrassing scenarios and Sotomayor could do whatever she wants

rob, Wednesday, 9 November 2022 14:21 (one year ago) link

btw I was saying in 2020-2021 that Breyer better get off the Court too.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 14:22 (one year ago) link

I feel like if you get a GOP President in 2024 the court will be the least of your concerns.

after several days on “the milk,” (gyac), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 14:22 (one year ago) link

Thankfully the only people expressing the frankly batshit opinion that Sotomayor should stand aside are here in this thread, and are men. COINKEYDINKEY?

put a VONC on it (suzy), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 14:23 (one year ago) link

Fetterman's campaign manager weighs in:

Good morning! If you were an “unnamed Democrat” who wet the bed to the press after the debate, I hope you stub your toe on the corner of your bed frame this morning, spill coffee on your shirt and then lock your keys in your car. But mostly, I hope you know you’re a fucking loser

— Brendan McPhillips (@BrendanMcP) November 9, 2022

but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 14:24 (one year ago) link

It's not "frankly bat shit." Ginsberg should've left the Court in 2013 when Obama won reelection and we still had the Senate. It's not bat shit when the president quite likely nominates a woman to replace her.

I feel like if you get a GOP President in 2024 the court will be the least of your concerns.

― after several days on “the milk,” (gyac)

We're not there yet, therefore I/we have other worries.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 14:26 (one year ago) link

I think filibustering is wrong plain and simple.
Are lifetime appointments wrong or right for Supreme Court Justices?
Should there be a mandatory retirement age across all branches of government?
Should those who have been elected to serve be gently encouraged or know when to retire, or should there be mechanisms to do this with less fuss?

youn, Wednesday, 9 November 2022 14:26 (one year ago) link

right back at u. brendan.

i wrote a quick "i didn't view this thread yesterday, or any info media, because too much for me." i clear-cleared it because not interesting or useful.

that's a weird "thx for sharing," i guess.

i want good things to be done. pissed off this is probly not that, at all. but for now FUCK YOU, ABYSS!

another time i'll try to share in scotus thoughts. i need to breathe a minute.

i'm right back on my shit (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 14:27 (one year ago) link

I would absolutely be in favor of term limits on justices

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 14:27 (one year ago) link

Brendan is a king among weasels

after several days on “the milk,” (gyac), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 14:29 (one year ago) link

I would absolutely be in favor of term limits on justices

― Muad'Doob (Moodles),

Hear, hear.

Justices have been gently and not so gently encouraged to retire since the 19th century.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 14:29 (one year ago) link

I was bummed about moving back to michigan in 2017 but elections since then have been reassuring me a bit - the top three insaniacs got beat, abortion and voting rights won, my district that flipped in 2020 and was subsequently redrawn to be more R friendly stayed, the republicans appear to have lost control of the state legislature, the guy who primaried peter meijer for voting for impeachment lost, and my neighbor who ran for school board because a total nutjob entered the race won and that guy lost.

joygoat, Wednesday, 9 November 2022 14:30 (one year ago) link

Ginsberg was also much older than Sotomayor, so you’re comparing apples and oranges, and before we know the outcome of all the races. That’s really dumb.

The UK had a PM with Type 1 diabetes and that did not affect her day to day in the job.

put a VONC on it (suzy), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 14:30 (one year ago) link

I'd also endorse an age limit on presidents.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 14:31 (one year ago) link

(or appointed)

youn, Wednesday, 9 November 2022 14:31 (one year ago) link

Ginsberg was also much older than Sotomayor, so you’re comparing apples and oranges, and before we know the outcome of all the races. That’s really dumb.

The UK had a PM with Type 1 diabetes and that did not affect her day to day in the job.

― put a VONC on it (suzy)

Fair. Ginsberg had cancer in 2013. I'm just scarred by the last six years of Court watching. Kennedy retires just in time for the midterms and gets his protege nominated, Barrett gets nominated a month before the election as an Earth-3 version of Ginsberg -- hell, it wouldn't have shocked if Scalia knew McConnell would never allow Obama to fill his seat.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 14:36 (one year ago) link

was Rudy Giuliani trying to turn PA into the hotbed of electoral corruption the thing that made Fetterman a household name? Google Trends seems to suggest so

frogbs, Wednesday, 9 November 2022 14:40 (one year ago) link

It just occurred to me that David Souter (Sotomayor's predecessor) is still alive and not that old (83). He retired at 69 reportedly because he didn't like D.C.

jaymc, Wednesday, 9 November 2022 14:43 (one year ago) link

I look forward to many more elections of outside money ratfuckers trying to primary "vulnerable" radical Illhan Omar having to watch her cruise to general election victory 75-25

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 14:55 (one year ago) link

I'd also endorse an age limit on presidents.

― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 bookmarkflaglink

So who would you have run against Trump a couple of years ago?

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 9 November 2022 14:58 (one year ago) link

My mom.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 15:01 (one year ago) link

She voted for Trump right?

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 9 November 2022 15:02 (one year ago) link

Some talk about why Sinema didn't lift a finger to help out any AZ Democrats this election. Either she's so unpopular that no candidate wanted to be seen with her or she was trying to distance herself from anticipated losses, or she's thinking of switching parties.

I mean the real reason is probably that she's taking a pickling class but you know

Stop the steal type republicans taking the biggest losses here by looks of it?

anvil, Wednesday, 9 November 2022 15:05 (one year ago) link

getting back some of these state legislatures (or wresting partial control away) in various states is a thing that's bringing me joy.

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 15:07 (one year ago) link

as that's one area where we've struggled, no doubt in large part due to unchecked gerrymandering held in place by conservative state Supreme Courts

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 15:08 (one year ago) link


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