U.S. Politics, November 2022: “I don’t know, you hear the same things I do”

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don't vote for this guy, FFS, he's REALLY BAD

https://www.factcheck.org/2022/11/harmless-data-error-to-blame-for-glitch-at-some-detroit-polling-places-contrary-to-trumps-post/

StanM, Wednesday, 9 November 2022 07:58 (one year ago) link

every race is like The Democrat has a narrow 50.1-49.9 lead over Republican challenger Gunch Hitler who ran on a platform of exploding everyone

— Ben Rosen (@ben_rosen) November 9, 2022

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 9 November 2022 08:21 (one year ago) link

That motion on slavery is...

We tried to get this passed in Virginia in 2020. It was killed in committee, and one of the Dems who killed it explained that the budgetary impact of abolishing prison slavery would be too high. In June, the California Dems rejected an anti-slavery proposal for the same reason. https://t.co/gzaCf6vK8E

— Josh (@rohmerfan1127) November 9, 2022

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 9 November 2022 08:24 (one year ago) link

really don't see it happening but seems to be a lot of Dems running better than projected so far, outside of Florida which remains increasingly fucked up

― frogbs, Wednesday, 9 November 2022 bookmarkflaglink

Sleepy Joe: end the embargo on Cuba already!

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 9 November 2022 08:33 (one year ago) link

Glad some of the fascists ate shit, here’s hoping some more do too. Laughed at this obvious happening

crudite at the Fetterman campaign event pic.twitter.com/21nqRY6gkR

— Jorge Ribas (@jribas) November 9, 2022

after several days on “the milk,” (gyac), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 08:44 (one year ago) link

go blue

Michigan State Senate flips to Dems for first time since 1983. Repeat. Nineteen Eighty Freaking Three.

— Jeff Timmer (@jefftimmer) November 9, 2022

comedy khadafi (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 09:15 (one year ago) link

Good morning!

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 10:29 (one year ago) link

and big ups to tennessee for banning slavery, they fucking nailed it tonight

― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 9 November 2022 06:17 (four hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

I mean, lol, but this actually put TN on the progressive leading edge, no?

49 Percent Jesus (Bananaman Begins), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 10:34 (one year ago) link

Lol, 'TN', listen to me. Yee haw I'm an American... eatin my hamburglar with sweet potatah pah

49 Percent Jesus (Bananaman Begins), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 10:35 (one year ago) link

And with this race call, every single Republican who won their primary with help from Democratic meddling has lost in the general election. https://t.co/jwu7diAq1N

— Kevin Robillard 🇺🇸 (@Robillard) November 9, 2022

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 10:39 (one year ago) link

That’s good to see.

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 10:45 (one year ago) link

(The practice still makes me itch, but I’m no political operative.)

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 10:45 (one year ago) link

And to be clear: they didn't "support" the deniers, they underlined the deniers' shit-awful positions.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 10:48 (one year ago) link

Not really in a celebratory mood— 51% reasonable person vs 49% waffen ss material isn’t a cause for celebration, it’s a cause for worry— but i am breathing a sign of relief and also laughing at thw fashies losing.

poppin' debussy (the table is the table), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 12:00 (one year ago) link

^^^

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 12:31 (one year ago) link

Wow, I'm surprised. I put down the phone last night and just read a book and put a movie on to fall asleep to, just couldn't do the creeping dread/exit poll watching shit mentally. Was expecting to wake up to a bloodbath, so I'll take it.

Very happy Tim Walz/Peggy Flanagan beat Scott Jenson/Matt Birk, would have been especially hard to see a native American woman be ousted as lieutenant governor in favor of a fascist piece of shit ex NFL player.

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 12:54 (one year ago) link

pic.twitter.com/d2Ik0lBJ25

— Kieran Healy (@kjhealy) November 9, 2022

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 12:54 (one year ago) link

Yeah, I didn't look at or listen to the news at all yesterday and went to bed totally blind, I suppose expecting the worst.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 9 November 2022 13:01 (one year ago) link

so I guess in Nevada you could vote for "None of these candidates" and that option is beating the Libertarian candidate lmao

rob, Wednesday, 9 November 2022 13:13 (one year ago) link

I watched two movies last night — Mile 22 (violent action trash with Mark Wahlberg) and the Ian McKellen Richard III.

A tiny piece of good news from Florida: a 25-year-old Afro-Cuban dude just got elected to the House, as a Democrat. (And his name is Max Frost, just like the presidential candidate in the movie Wild in the Streets, so that's...something to laugh about.)

I’VE BEEN CAMPAIGNING FOR OVER A YEAR THIS IS WILD!! I’M GONNA SEE @the1975 ON THURSDAY TO CELEBRATE!!!

— Maxwell Alejandro Frost (@MaxwellFrostFL) November 9, 2022

but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 13:16 (one year ago) link

Same here. Straight to bed at 12am UK time, up at 6am and to my delight, Ilhan Omar was re-elected and of the MN races I was invested in but can’t vote for as an expat absentee, Walz/Flanagan was good but Keith Ellison winning re-election for AG was the best!

put a VONC on it (suzy), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 13:19 (one year ago) link

and in Michigan the Dems won the trifecta, no?

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 13:20 (one year ago) link

Not really in a celebratory mood— 51% reasonable person vs 49% waffen ss material isn’t a cause for celebration, it’s a cause for worry— but i am breathing a sign of relief and also laughing at thw fashies losing.

― poppin' debussy (the table is the table), Wednesday, November 9, 2022 7:00 AM bookmarkflaglink

Otm

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 13:21 (one year ago) link

Arizona now back in the Lean D rating on NYT.

Farrr from certainty, as Nevada is too close, plus GA runoff, but every possibility that come Dec, Dems have 51 seats. It didn't seem possible yesterday morning.

It doesn't exactly mean much from a practical standpoint, 50 or 51, if the House goes GOP and they block all meaningful legislation, and we know no filibuster-spike or court pack will happen, and we still have Bidens veto anyway, buuuuut it does at least help the 2024 Senate picture a bit if Dems can hold on, and it does send a message that people are growing weary of conservative antics, even if nowhere near enough people are.

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 13:25 (one year ago) link

And yes I'm knocking on every piece of wood in my house eat my ass

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 13:26 (one year ago) link

and it also means Biden can nominate judges and judges. Sotomayor better start drafting her resignation letter.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 13:26 (one year ago) link

Why?

put a VONC on it (suzy), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 13:43 (one year ago) link

and it also means Biden can nominate judges and judges. Sotomayor better start drafting her resignation letter.

Fuck that noise. Time to replace some of them. There's a D-voting military sniper somewhere in the ranks; find him.

but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 13:43 (one year ago) link

Sotomayor has diabetes. Not disabling but a worry.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 13:50 (one year ago) link

Completely bizarre rationale.

after several days on “the milk,” (gyac), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 13:51 (one year ago) link

Sotomayor is 68; she'll turn 70 in 2024. given the electoral calculus here, it makes sense to me, why risk another RBG situation? you can pick someone just as rad to replace her

rob, Wednesday, 9 November 2022 13:53 (one year ago) link

I'd rather they spend time hiding around corners, waiting for Thomas and Alito, then jumping out and yelling "boo!"

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 9 November 2022 13:56 (one year ago) link

Sotomayor is 68; she'll turn 70 in 2024. given the electoral calculus here, it makes sense to me, why risk another RBG situation? you can pick someone just as rad to replace her

― rob,

Exactly. Nominate a younger candidate.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 13:57 (one year ago) link

Sorry. I have no mercy after how RBG fucked us over.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 13:57 (one year ago) link

Sotomayor strikes me as one to manage her diabetes and her service responsibly. Her life story as far as I have heard is pretty amazing given the initimidation that could have happened and of which she might not have been fully aware at the time.

youn, Wednesday, 9 November 2022 14:00 (one year ago) link

She's my favorite justice: the best interlocutor, the opinion writer who most gets what's at stake.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 14:03 (one year ago) link

I'd thought Madison Cawthorn was the first Gen Z member of Congress, but I guess he was born in 1995 and the conventional dividing line is 1996. Maxwell Frost was born in 1997. Good for him.

jaymc, Wednesday, 9 November 2022 14:05 (one year ago) link

and an unabashed progressive

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 14:06 (one year ago) link

xp
I didn't know Sotomayor had diabetes, and I don't think that matters; for me her age is sufficient cause for general concern (fwiw, here in Canada the mandatory retirement age for SC justices is 75). She's an excellent justice and a truly admirable person who doesn't deserve to be pushed towards retirement. But she's also only one person, and she isn't more important than civil rights for LGBTQ people, reproductive freedom, etc etc.

I'm no utilitarian, but I don't understand elevating one person's career autonomy above the needs of so so so many other people. Basically, SC justices have far too much power, which isn't her fault of course, but can't we recognize that as a fact and respond accordingly?

rob, Wednesday, 9 November 2022 14:08 (one year ago) link

There’s no way to expand the court rather than forcing a woman out of her job? Is that right?

after several days on “the milk,” (gyac), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 14:12 (one year ago) link

Are there conservative justices who are older and also have chronic conditions?

put a VONC on it (suzy), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 14:13 (one year ago) link

I think the point is that those guys wouldn’t resign, so Sotomayor has to take one for the team. Cos that’s reasonable.

after several days on “the milk,” (gyac), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 14:14 (one year ago) link

Thomas has congenital fascism.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 14:14 (one year ago) link

There’s no way to expand the court rather than forcing a woman out of her job? Is that right?

― after several days on “the milk,” (gyac)

No. It would shock me if Biden didn't replace Sotomayor with a woman.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 14:15 (one year ago) link

Better hope she’s 100% healthy and stays that way!

after several days on “the milk,” (gyac), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 14:16 (one year ago) link

How many others would a mandatory retirement age of hypothetically 75 (regardless of preexisting conditions) disqualify?

youn, Wednesday, 9 November 2022 14:18 (one year ago) link

I understand these objections, but are you all not worried about the prospect of a GOP president in 2024 getting to replace Sotomayor? I'm just going by recent history here.

I'm court-packing-curious, but that doesn't seem likely to happen any time soon for a variety of reasons; all three liberal justices are women so there isn't a male option to suggest; and yeah sorry "our team" has no sway over the other six fascists, I don't know what to say about that. obviously I would strongly prefer if they all died in a series of increasingly embarrassing scenarios and Sotomayor could do whatever she wants

rob, Wednesday, 9 November 2022 14:21 (one year ago) link

btw I was saying in 2020-2021 that Breyer better get off the Court too.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 14:22 (one year ago) link

I feel like if you get a GOP President in 2024 the court will be the least of your concerns.

after several days on “the milk,” (gyac), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 14:22 (one year ago) link

Thankfully the only people expressing the frankly batshit opinion that Sotomayor should stand aside are here in this thread, and are men. COINKEYDINKEY?

put a VONC on it (suzy), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 14:23 (one year ago) link


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