I mean the whole point of the original host of ILX was Usenet functionality on the web
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 6 November 2022 02:08 (one year ago) link
For several years, I ran the message boards for Spiritualized and The Church off of a Usenet nntp server app that ran on a spare System 9 Power Mac 7500 in my apartment closet. I still miss those days
― Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 6 November 2022 02:28 (one year ago) link
Isnt usenet a hive of scum and villany porn spam?
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Sunday, 6 November 2022 04:18 (one year ago) link
I tried setting up a mastodon account and kept getting forbidden errors with no detail about which field was being rejected. I might try again later.
In other words...
tweeters trying to figure out mastodon pic.twitter.com/Iy49vIZhuj— Eric Allen Hatch (@ericallenhatch) November 6, 2022
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Sunday, 6 November 2022 04:58 (one year ago) link
suggesting Mastodon to most people as a twitter replacement is like if you ordered a steak at a restaurant and the waiter handed you the map to a cow pasture and a bolt gun— šØš»āš»āļø (@hunterwalk) November 5, 2022
― link.exposing.politically (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 6 November 2022 10:17 (one year ago) link
Add me on mastadon https://t.co/CMGUq9o5Z1— Don Hughes šš (@getfiscal) November 5, 2022
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 6 November 2022 11:05 (one year ago) link
the library of alexandria dril museum but it just contains a single @getfiscal tweet (that one)
― mark s, Sunday, 6 November 2022 11:20 (one year ago) link
Don is truly the masta
― Wiggum Dorma (wins), Sunday, 6 November 2022 11:50 (one year ago) link
proof if proof be need be:
So the guy who coded Mastodon is...Russian.Just FYI.š¤£— Eric Garland (@ericgarland) November 5, 2022
― mark s, Sunday, 6 November 2022 14:26 (one year ago) link
The guy who coded it is German apparently.
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 6 November 2022 14:39 (one year ago) link
https://mastodon.lol/@nathan/109294013603133150
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 6 November 2022 14:52 (one year ago) link
Basically it's really creaky. See where it goes, it may not cool either if twitter dies in a few weeks.
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 6 November 2022 14:53 (one year ago) link
eugen rochko aka gargron, german citizen, lived in germany since age 11 (2004), born in russia of russian-jewish family (source wikipedia)
for eric g = much to ponder
it's time for some game theory!
― mark s, Sunday, 6 November 2022 14:55 (one year ago) link
it's not very big at all and it's made up of lots of mini-communities run by ordinary computer-users giving their time (generally unpaid, tho some have patreons etc)
will it survive a genuinely huge influx in one go? twitter = c.400m (inc many bots of course); mastodon is currently like 700,000 i think? (which is roughly double what it was at the beginning of the week, acc.gargron)
of course every single joining mastodon user could start their own instance, it's a software you download -- that wd be maximally decentralised and stable (it would miss the influx problem) but it wd also manifest as huge problems against social connectivity
― mark s, Sunday, 6 November 2022 15:02 (one year ago) link
it's time for some goyim theory
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Sunday, 6 November 2022 15:12 (one year ago) link
https://fedi.tips/mastodon-and-the-fediverse-beginners-start-here/#whyisthefediverseonsomanyseparateservers
― | (Latham Green), Sunday, 6 November 2022 15:53 (one year ago) link
Would people use an ilxor server? Iād maintain and pay for it if people would use it.
― Allen (etaeoe), Sunday, 6 November 2022 22:01 (one year ago) link
sure, but it's not clear to me what the advantage to any one server is over any other; ie: can we restrict posts to one server to only accounts set up on that server? does that mean all of us ilxors would have to have accounts on the ilx server if we wanted to see the interactions there, or can we keep our accounts that we setup elsewhere? etc.
― akm, Sunday, 6 November 2022 22:04 (one year ago) link
I think youāre overthinking this. Think of like e-mail. You can use whatever host youād like and interact with anyone else, from whatever host.
― Allen (etaeoe), Sunday, 6 November 2022 22:08 (one year ago) link
Will keep trying with Mastodon.
Yeah imma just have to go down with the ship this aināt it. pic.twitter.com/EsAWDoEmC8— Evil Darkskin Nigga (@FTate05) November 6, 2022
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 6 November 2022 22:13 (one year ago) link
"What is ActivityPub?Mastodon uses a standardized, open protocol to implement federation. It is called ActivityPub. Any software that likewise implements federation via ActivityPub can seamlessly communicate with Mastodon, just like Mastodon websites communicate with one another."
"Because Mastodon is simply software that can be used to power any website, potential users of Mastodon have the option of choosing a service provider from already-existing Mastodon websites, or to create their own Mastodon website if they wish."
https://docs.joinmastodon.org/#:~:text=Mastodon%20uses%20a%20standardized%2C%20open,websites%20communicate%20with%20one%20another.
I think you could refuse to accpt a user to a mastodon instance if you wanted to restrict it to certain people
― | (Latham Green), Sunday, 6 November 2022 22:56 (one year ago) link
The main drawback to the different servers I see so far is it limits your ability to find people. Ned and I, for instance, are on different servers. I found him because I knew to search for him. So following him is no trouble. But when I look to see who heās followingābecause after years of being friends on other social platforms I expect to find mutualsāI can only see people he follows *who are on the same server as me*. He might be following 50 or 100 people but I can only see the 8 or 9 who chose the same server as me.
I imagine that as things go on and I find more people to follow and we all get in the habit of reblogging each other, Iāll be less inclined to search for people this way and this drawback will fade away.
― sctttnnnt (pgwp), Sunday, 6 November 2022 22:59 (one year ago) link
No, if you click on the link to (for example) Ned's profile *on his server* (it's very easy - try it!) you can see who all of his followers are and who he's following. That's how I connected with you.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Sunday, 6 November 2022 23:00 (one year ago) link
Semi-obligatory dumb Twitter jokes:
Trust me Iāve been trying to join Mastodon for years now but those dudes play FAST— Jason Isbell (@JasonIsbell) November 6, 2022
TECH WRITERS: Joining Mastodon isn't as tricky as it seems.ME: (Attempting to learn the bass part of "I Am Ahab") I don't know this is pretty challenging!— Hunter Felt (@HunterFelt) November 5, 2022
― but also fuck you (unperson), Sunday, 6 November 2022 23:02 (one year ago) link
This screenshot might be fake but if it's real it makes me slightly optimistic (Eugen is the CEO):
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fg6qqoQWYAER-zP.jpg
― but also fuck you (unperson), Sunday, 6 November 2022 23:16 (one year ago) link
What was that social network site that I think was more of a Facebook replacement? It was all black in there too.
― pplains, Sunday, 6 November 2022 23:35 (one year ago) link
Diaspora? Ello?
― Allen (etaeoe), Monday, 7 November 2022 01:06 (one year ago) link
But if you try to click on one of them to follow and they're on a different server you have to then reload your own server and search their specific name and follow that, rather than just click 'FOLLOW'.
― Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Monday, 7 November 2022 01:23 (one year ago) link
The mastodon mobile app is a much more pleasant experience than the web.
― akm, Monday, 7 November 2022 02:25 (one year ago) link
Am also on this thing now, I guess. https://journa.host/@rozlatiff
― Roz, Monday, 7 November 2022 03:16 (one year ago) link
xpost Yes, even though I've gotten used to the desktop version, the official app is pretty slick, and I've seen reports that other third party apps might be even better.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 7 November 2022 03:29 (one year ago) link
Yes.
― pplains, Monday, 7 November 2022 03:36 (one year ago) link
I forgot about Diaspora, I think that was initially a livejournal replacement wannit?
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 7 November 2022 07:10 (one year ago) link
one side-effect from reactivating my 2018 mastodon acct is that i'm also suddenly reconnecting with foax from an oldschool messageboard i always liked but did kinda desert round the time i was doing my book (mainly earnest timesink avoidance, never intended as a flounce) = unfogged
― mark s, Monday, 7 November 2022 11:01 (one year ago) link
more to the point maybe they're reconnecting with me, im guessing this means im more visible there than i was on twitter?
― mark s, Monday, 7 November 2022 11:02 (one year ago) link
https://mastodon.lol/@nathan/109301335584873764
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 7 November 2022 11:32 (one year ago) link
Continuous server upgrades etc. They are v committed and trying their best.
lol
― mark s, Monday, 7 November 2022 11:43 (one year ago) link
trie to sign up, currently waiting confirmation email.has been over 30 mins, so suspect its not happening.i guess i try a different server ?
― mark e, Monday, 7 November 2022 11:45 (one year ago) link
I'm not following this at all. I wanted to join mastodon.social because it seemed like the largest and most important server? But I couldn't find it when I searched for servers so I just joined another server. But how do I now switch to mastodon.social? I have the app but the search screen just lets me search for posts, hashtags etc. and not servers. How do you get a full list of servers from within the app?
― lord of the rongs (anagram), Monday, 7 November 2022 14:01 (one year ago) link
i don't know if there's a way to see other servers/instance *within the app* (and i'm absolutely certain there isn't a way to see *all* of them, some servers hide theemselves by design) but if you already *know* the server you want to join, then go to settings then account then "move to a different account" and the account you move to will be yrs except with the new server switched in
however i'm not certain if mastodon social is currently letting more ppl in, its influx is currently huge (it is the largest but i don't know what "most important" really means in this context: yes its chief mod is also basically site founder but he's also kinda busy at the moment)
tbh i would wait a while and see how things are, or else look around *outside the app* for other suggested servers / instances
― mark s, Monday, 7 November 2022 14:09 (one year ago) link
Thanks, that's very helpful.
― lord of the rongs (anagram), Monday, 7 November 2022 14:13 (one year ago) link
do I get Negronis if I join y/n
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 7 November 2022 14:21 (one year ago) link
absolutely not
― mark s, Monday, 7 November 2022 14:28 (one year ago) link
here's me for now
https://ravenation.club/@Moodles
I've been able to follow a few people, but I can't see most users on other servers. There were a bunch of you that I tried to add but couldn't find in the lookup. I'd like to be able to look at who other people follow regardless of server. Is there a way to do this or do I have to hop around from server to server looking for people?
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Monday, 7 November 2022 14:44 (one year ago) link
this feels a bit like Quantum Leap where you leap from century to century
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 7 November 2022 14:45 (one year ago) link
it's perplexing to me because 3/4 of the people I'm following are on different servers, so clearly that is possible, but then I can't add or see certain other people, so there appears to be some limits.
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Monday, 7 November 2022 14:49 (one year ago) link
ok, seems to work better when I include someone's server in the search, although search is just generally working better on the android app than in the browser. One big problem seems to be that a lot of people are on @mastodon.online, and that particular server seems to be fucked, I just can't access it at all
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Monday, 7 November 2022 15:00 (one year ago) link
moodles try clicking e.g. on my profile and look thru my follows and followers -- some i expect will be hidden since some servers are delinked from others but others u shd just be able to follow there and then via the + sign? anyway u will recognise some ppl there
mastodon online is probably experiencing a surge r/n
― mark s, Monday, 7 November 2022 15:55 (one year ago) link
Yeah I can't see anyone you are following lol.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 7 November 2022 16:09 (one year ago) link