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i love the instrumentation and especially the guitar on "No Decent Shoes Fora Rain" so much

gman59, Friday, 4 November 2022 18:36 (one year ago) link

i like this way more than the first one, musically it's so much more interesting

this is otm, but also why it's disappointing that the vocals are so high in the mix, keeps pulling me back from the really interesting stuff going on behind her.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 7 November 2022 16:40 (one year ago) link

they are so loud you could pull them back 25% and they'd still be the loudest thing in the mix by far, i know what you're saying about how it keeps you at arm's length in some way

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 7 November 2022 16:42 (one year ago) link

Not hearing the imbalance, maybe a hair more prominent than NLL but in no way detrimental to the music for me. Parish absolutely knows what he’s doing mixing small bands with charismatic vocals, and the band have talked enthusiastically about his role in bringing ideas to fruition. They’re an excellent band but a genuine 50/50 with Shaw in terms of appeal.

assert (matttkkkk), Monday, 7 November 2022 21:16 (one year ago) link

I'm not hearing the imbalance, and, yeah, I like the sax and synth touches on 'Icebergs' and 'Anna Calls From The Arctic.'

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 7 November 2022 21:31 (one year ago) link

I love the bickering in “Kwenchy Kups” too

assert (matttkkkk), Monday, 7 November 2022 22:09 (one year ago) link

the vocal mix i think is what sets this record apart. this band did not click for me really at all until this album

gman59, Monday, 7 November 2022 22:43 (one year ago) link

Obviously what one thinks about the mix or how successful one finds it as an intentional choice is one thing, but I can't see how you wouldn't notice that Florence's vocals are much louder in the mix than anything else. I've listened to it on headphones via my iPhone rip, the original CD in my car and the original CD on my home setup and it feels immediately obvious to me.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 7 November 2022 23:08 (one year ago) link

I feel like she's definitely floating 'above' the music on the opener, but that's been around for months and I've revisited it infrequently since the rest of the LP dropped. That track doesn't feel particularly representative and it just didn't occur to me elsewhere, presumably precisely because it didn't detract from the experience. I mean, it's not as though there is a definitively 'correct' way of mixing. (Or is there lol?)

People IRL have made exactly the same observation so I'm prepared to believe it's palpably... atypical.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Monday, 7 November 2022 23:45 (one year ago) link

I've ended up listening to it again now dammit. Updated opinion: definitely better than NLL.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Tuesday, 8 November 2022 00:11 (one year ago) link

I listen to this band to hear inventive guitar music roiling around Shaw's quietly intense thought process, the mix delivers. I don't need them to sound like other bands.

assert (matttkkkk), Tuesday, 8 November 2022 01:37 (one year ago) link

Totes.

Also: one of my odder hobbies is watching how bands' sets evolve over time, despite rarely managing to attend stuff. https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/dry-cleaning/2022/pryzm-kingston-upon-thames-england-5bbe9398.html

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Tuesday, 8 November 2022 04:09 (one year ago) link

Whoops! Premature submission. I was going to note that their sets tend to be fairly static and that they introduced the bulk of Stumpwork only in the last couple of weeks. BUT it came at the expense of "Viking Hair", leaving only "Meghan" from 2019. This is a major tragedy lol.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Tuesday, 8 November 2022 04:14 (one year ago) link

rats, I like "Viking Hair"

assert (matttkkkk), Tuesday, 8 November 2022 05:49 (one year ago) link

fwiw, my annoyance with the mix doesn't mean I don't like this, I really do. It's even better than the debut! I just wish the vocals didn't kinda overwhelm everything else at times.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 8 November 2022 18:15 (one year ago) link

I like the album, more than the first as I said, I just cannot comprehend listening to this and not thinking damn these vocals are really loud

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 8 November 2022 18:27 (one year ago) link

Clearly they read this site. "Viking Hair" was back on Tuesday night. :) (Though it was a slightly longer set overall: "Leafy" and "Unsmart Lady" returned too.) Yes, I know, this IS a pathological level of attention to such details.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Wednesday, 9 November 2022 04:40 (one year ago) link

inverse ...and justice for all bass mixing of the vocal aside, i'm really love this more every time i listen

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 17:57 (one year ago) link

Yes me too.

Lord Pickles (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 18:15 (one year ago) link

sometimes the guitars give me vini reilly vibes which is always welcome

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 18:17 (one year ago) link

yes!

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 18:19 (one year ago) link

I also agree with the above comments about this reminds a lot of Life Without Buildings but not enough to be a carbon copy. This band and especially this album are similar to LWB but scratch a different itch.

gman59, Wednesday, 9 November 2022 19:08 (one year ago) link

two bonus tracks from the new album

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiGKGonhdQ8

donna rouge, Sunday, 20 November 2022 00:20 (one year ago) link

well "swampy" should satisfy the "vocals too loud" camp

assert (matttkkkk), Sunday, 20 November 2022 00:46 (one year ago) link

sorry, I meant "sombre two" there!

assert (matttkkkk), Sunday, 20 November 2022 06:05 (one year ago) link

Coming here in January on the world tour - I bailed on Stereolab and Boy Harsher this summer because I wasn't comfortable in a big crowd yet but maybe I'll be braver in a couple of months.

papal hotwife (milo z), Sunday, 20 November 2022 06:55 (one year ago) link

three weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6l1GYjOt-A

papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 12 December 2022 23:52 (one year ago) link

Yeah DC payed a show in April in Baltimore and I just wasn’t ready yet to be in a rock club situation, but January should be okay even if I’m the only person masking.

Lord Pickles (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 13 December 2022 00:23 (one year ago) link

seeing them TONIGHT!

assert (matttkkkk), Tuesday, 13 December 2022 01:38 (one year ago) link

they fucking provided blank

assert (matttkkkk), Tuesday, 13 December 2022 12:47 (one year ago) link

oh and Viking Hair was present and correct, sounded awesome

assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, 15 December 2022 00:21 (one year ago) link

:) Regretting not finding some way to attend one of THREE Vic shows. That vid 5 posts up is just rubbing it in!

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Thursday, 15 December 2022 00:37 (one year ago) link

well this is as much as I saw of them at the Corner, or at least my arm raised over the idiot head of the guy whose main reason for attending was to hug his girlfriend and chat to his mates
https://i.imgur.com/LuxjSns.jpg

assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, 15 December 2022 01:31 (one year ago) link

i enjoyed them last night in Syd - they're such an interesting live proposition! the lack of regular rock show dynamics took a bit of getting used to (obv not a surprise knowing their sound, but it was still striking in a performance setting) - it felt like the set started pretty sedate and got more vigorous - definitely glad I went, although perhaps didn't provide any revelations beyond the records

meat and two vdgg (emsworth), Thursday, 15 December 2022 04:18 (one year ago) link

three weeks pass...

on the sloping edge of a vase of flowers
on the front, Chinese landscape
on the sides, figures in a Dutch landscape
it's Europe

assert (matttkkkk), Friday, 6 January 2023 04:46 (one year ago) link

rather neutered performance of probably my least favourite track on Stumpwork:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUW4TmzWYfk

assert (matttkkkk), Tuesday, 10 January 2023 06:15 (one year ago) link

On tour this month in the US. Going to see them in Washington.

Lord Pickles (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 10 January 2023 13:50 (one year ago) link

that is a kinda meh live run on tonight show but maybe fallon was boring them

catching them at the start of february in nyc.

three weeks pass...

well they were lovely sounding live, but the laconic anti-charisma thing was more than a bit stifling after a half an hour of standing in place and playing.
sunn o))) had a more active stage presence. So did The Archies.

POLIZISTEN VERSINKEN IM SCHLAMM (forksclovetofu), Friday, 3 February 2023 09:20 (one year ago) link

they're certainly trying! the recreations of the songs are very much there and accurate! But there's no funny business, it's all serious business.

POLIZISTEN VERSINKEN IM SCHLAMM (forksclovetofu), Friday, 3 February 2023 09:22 (one year ago) link

Yeah there’s not a lot of stürm und drang in the sprechtgesang

I was lucky enough to stand near the abstract spot that Flo stares at to achieve dramatic distance, so it was oddly engaging.

assert (matttkkkk), Friday, 3 February 2023 09:42 (one year ago) link

It's interesting how they then contrast that with surprisingly giggly interviews/in-studio sessions!

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 3 February 2023 09:57 (one year ago) link

I am totally nicking "sturm und drang und sprechgesang" as old-mind scan-a-like substitute for "sex and drugs and rock'n'roll". Thanks matttkkkk, I promise I'll try to give credit.

anatol_merklich, Friday, 3 February 2023 10:14 (one year ago) link

i have a feeling that if they were the sorts to mug for the cameras they'd be a different and less good band

imago, Friday, 3 February 2023 10:24 (one year ago) link

xp I am honoured to be quoted

assert (matttkkkk), Friday, 3 February 2023 11:36 (one year ago) link

Florence did have a funny little speech about how she thought the White House had a dome before they visited.

Alicia Silver Stone (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 3 February 2023 13:43 (one year ago) link

Live, it was very pleasurable to hear the band play loud, after being somewhat buried in the mix on the current album. They sound great!

Alicia Silver Stone (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 3 February 2023 13:44 (one year ago) link

i have a feeling that if they were the sorts to mug for the cameras they'd be a different and less good band

― imago,

otm -- she does mug, though! When I saw them at Pitchfork last summer, Shaw widened her eyes, looked histrionically left to right, etc.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 3 February 2023 13:45 (one year ago) link

she thought the White House had a dome before they visited.

future Walsh lyric

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 3 February 2023 13:45 (one year ago) link

subtle mugging is good!

imago, Friday, 3 February 2023 13:55 (one year ago) link


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