Jesus fucking christ.
― stank viola (Neanderthal), Thursday, 3 November 2022 13:53 (one year ago) link
way to write a review that tells me everything but what it sounds like (oh they're a "jam band", how helpful!). and scolding the band for making the music available for free.
― stank viola (Neanderthal), Thursday, 3 November 2022 13:54 (one year ago) link
oh jeez
― mh, Thursday, 3 November 2022 13:54 (one year ago) link
writer is maybe a bit churlish and should probably have mentioned Inflo at some point but I basically agree with his premise tbh
― imago, Thursday, 3 November 2022 13:56 (one year ago) link
I tried to comment but everything was there except...the button to submit?
― stank viola (Neanderthal), Thursday, 3 November 2022 13:57 (one year ago) link
there are enough breathless uncritical encomia to sault among the UK critical establishment that we can permit the occasional humbug, no?
― imago, Thursday, 3 November 2022 13:57 (one year ago) link
sure, do it in one paragraph, then. as that's about all of the content his review contained.
― stank viola (Neanderthal), Thursday, 3 November 2022 13:58 (one year ago) link
also tired of 'get off my lawn' being used in writing as a joeky "lol see I'm self-aware of how pretentious and shallow my criticisms are, ergo it negates that criticism"
― stank viola (Neanderthal), Thursday, 3 November 2022 13:59 (one year ago) link
idk his criticisms seem pretty pointed and evidenced? maybe it depends on whether you see sault's self-presentation and public engagement practices as slick marketing techniques or, idk, sincere enigmatisation of the artistic process
― imago, Thursday, 3 November 2022 14:02 (one year ago) link
I agree with a few points, but that piece is a firehose of opinions4u, some of which are quite bullshit (the Albarn hunch is basically racist)
― rob, Thursday, 3 November 2022 14:03 (one year ago) link
idk I find it hard to square complaining that "it's just marketing" with "it devalues music" like which is it
― rob, Thursday, 3 November 2022 14:04 (one year ago) link
also it is quite clearly a review of the release method rather than the music
yeah the Albarn hunch + the cast-of-thousands stuff sells Inflo way short
― imago, Thursday, 3 November 2022 14:04 (one year ago) link
I don't have any opinions on Sault whatsoever and my reaction to seeing I could download some albums for free was "hmm, that's nice, I might have to check that out"
writing that many words seems to indicate this was meant to be something remarkable to someone, his retort is "this isn't remarkable, maybe the music isn't good, maybe this is marketing"
why would someone think it's remarkable? oh, because it's covered by music news. who thinks music news is remarkable? people who write about music. who is feeding into this being something worthy of comment? the guy writing an overly long bit about how it's nothing
― mh, Thursday, 3 November 2022 14:06 (one year ago) link
ultimately the artist decides how much they want to sell their music for, one collective giving the shit away for free doesn't mean Anal Stabwound's career is over because nobody will ever pay for his music again.
― stank viola (Neanderthal), Thursday, 3 November 2022 14:06 (one year ago) link
like maybe it is a nice thing to give people some downloads and it's also marketing"it's very 90s" oh ok so you've seen this happen before, wonder if anyone's written about album giveaways before
― mh, Thursday, 3 November 2022 14:07 (one year ago) link
my theory was that Sault's game was flooding the listening-time of critics just when they should be recapping 2022 lol
― imago, Thursday, 3 November 2022 14:09 (one year ago) link
also daerest Nikhil, childe of death, won't be short of sponsorship I suspect
― imago, Thursday, 3 November 2022 14:10 (one year ago) link
ultimately the artist decides how much they want to sell their music forwell, I wouldn't go that far!
Byt yeah you should know you're getting too huffily defensive when you're including "Untitled is not a title" in your list of complaints. That said, I don't think that's a terrible piece of writing really, just smug & unfocused; I mean it's a blog post from someone I've never heard of (maybe he's known to you all?).
This, otoh, took years off my life expectancy: https://www.newyorker.com/culture/cultural-comment/the-case-for-listening-to-complete-discographies
― rob, Thursday, 3 November 2022 14:10 (one year ago) link
damn that new yorker article is playing all the hits
― mh, Thursday, 3 November 2022 14:13 (one year ago) link
my theory was that Sault's game was flooding the listening-time of critics just when they should be recapping 2022 lol― imago, Thursday, 3 November 2022 14:09 (two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
― imago, Thursday, 3 November 2022 14:09 (two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
this is good then: critics shd spend far less time (= none at all) "recapping 2022" or indeed any other year past or future
― mark s, Thursday, 3 November 2022 14:14 (one year ago) link
EOEOY
― mark s, Thursday, 3 November 2022 14:15 (one year ago) link
catching up on things they'd missed is surely fine?
― imago, Thursday, 3 November 2022 14:16 (one year ago) link
releasing something during a year end wrap-up season or awards season to keep it fresh in mind? wow never heard of that
next thing you know, albums will start coming out early in the year right before summer touring season and ticket sales
― mh, Thursday, 3 November 2022 14:23 (one year ago) link
A few good points, a few bad ones. The article is as scattershot as SAULT's latest batch of material. DO YOU SEE
― but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 3 November 2022 14:45 (one year ago) link
Maybe...it IS Sault.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 3 November 2022 14:47 (one year ago) link
It's a Sault of sorts
― stank viola (Neanderthal), Thursday, 3 November 2022 14:48 (one year ago) link
A Sault with a deadly Pepa
― m0stly clean (Slowsquatch), Thursday, 3 November 2022 15:04 (one year ago) link
andrew dobber morelike
― manic pixie dream shatner (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 3 November 2022 15:08 (one year ago) link
Why isn't his blog called Dub and Dubber?
― jmm, Thursday, 3 November 2022 15:13 (one year ago) link
i really don't understand the "sault is a jam band" thing like at all
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 3 November 2022 15:16 (one year ago) link
sault is a jam bandsomeone talking junkyo i bust 'im in the eyeand then I take the punk's blog
― Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Thursday, 3 November 2022 15:25 (one year ago) link
He's not from America; he doesn't understand the American definition of "jam band." He seems to mean that their songs feel like loose jams halfway thrown together right before someone presses the record button.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 3 November 2022 15:26 (one year ago) link
the "actually it's not just available for 5 days" bit was so petty and pedantic, who fucking cares?
― link.exposing.politically (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 3 November 2022 15:59 (one year ago) link
No, you see, it will *always* be available. All you have to do is download and run torrenting software, then rip and upload lots of rare CDs to build a good enough ratio to download five albums
― insane oatmeal raisin cookie posse (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 3 November 2022 16:11 (one year ago) link
Is that why I was never able to figure out how to torrent? I didn't upload anything first? what the hell is that bitcoin shit just gimme my rare music
― Lord Pickles (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 3 November 2022 17:22 (one year ago) link
y/s/I?
― Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Thursday, 3 November 2022 17:26 (one year ago) link
why torrent when slsk exists?
― link.exposing.politically (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 3 November 2022 17:28 (one year ago) link
Shit I just paid $50 to jump the queue and now u tell me this
― Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Thursday, 3 November 2022 17:30 (one year ago) link
Gawd, that New Yorker article… I can’t do it, even as a “hate read”
― Reese's Pisces Iscariot (morrisp), Thursday, 3 November 2022 19:16 (one year ago) link
lol yeah it's brutal, I was amazed it was published in 2022.
After I binged the new-ish High Fidelity tv adaptation, I thought about starting a "Rockism 2.0" thread but that nyer piece convinced me not to
― rob, Thursday, 3 November 2022 19:34 (one year ago) link
No rockist would prefer the Beach Boys' 1985 self-titled album to Pet Sounds.
― Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 3 November 2022 19:41 (one year ago) link
it's a middle-aged symphony to rum
― Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Thursday, 3 November 2022 19:45 (one year ago) link
tbf that actually sounds way better than a teen-aged symphony to god
― rob, Thursday, 3 November 2022 19:47 (one year ago) link
this reads like someone who just ate at Olive Garden and didn't get enough parm
― | (Latham Green), Thursday, 3 November 2022 19:54 (one year ago) link
the psychotic heavy hitting trainspotters on slsk who don’t let you download anything and shame you for existing >>>>> torrenters with perfect logs and optimal ratio
― lets hear some blues on those synths (brimstead), Thursday, 3 November 2022 19:59 (one year ago) link
let's just say they're all terrible people
― wearing wraparounds (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 3 November 2022 20:04 (one year ago) link
Sault is a jam bandby which we measure five daysI'll say it again
― budo jeru, Thursday, 3 November 2022 20:10 (one year ago) link
Try to make ends meet
You're a slave to money and you're dumb
― blissfully unawarewolf (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 3 November 2022 20:30 (one year ago) link
The style of that New Yorker article was bleh and the guy is smug as fuck but when we do albums polls around here, losing myself in an artist does feel… good.
― poppin' debussy (the table is the table), Saturday, 5 November 2022 02:25 (one year ago) link
that new yorker piece was written by a nerd
ofc observing an artistic process develop over the course of years-to-decades is incredibly rewarding and i do it all the time, i spend next to no time recounting the revolutionary recording techniques employed in the beatles revolver as if no one has ever heard of them before
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Saturday, 5 November 2022 03:59 (one year ago) link