Brazil - have you been there?

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great outcome but scary how close it was relative to first round and polls

flopson, Monday, 31 October 2022 00:45 (one year ago) link

Incredible news. Congratulations to Lula and the people of Brazil.

treeship., Monday, 31 October 2022 01:29 (one year ago) link

Northeast #Brazil rn pic.twitter.com/AE0ZeINFP9

— Abier (@abierkhatib) October 31, 2022

xyzzzz__, Monday, 31 October 2022 09:49 (one year ago) link

🤣🤣

xyzzzz__, Monday, 31 October 2022 09:59 (one year ago) link

lmao he waited until the morning to check there wasn’t a coup first (he was up and tweeting about football when the result was confirmed) https://t.co/b5Jo1ORMfb

— the uk press cover for serial groper nick cohen (@wariotifo) October 31, 2022

xyzzzz__, Monday, 31 October 2022 10:21 (one year ago) link

He was actually waiting until his advisors woke up in the morning and told him it was ok to do so. Tweeting only after most major foreign leaders had already done it.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 31 October 2022 10:23 (one year ago) link

Kieth won't take a dump until he's focus grouped it tbf

meanwhile i would advise Lula to take swift and permanent action to ensure Bolsonaro can never make a comeback

wearing wraparounds (Noodle Vague), Monday, 31 October 2022 10:38 (one year ago) link

man some states changed the pace of how their votes are counted, and that threw me off a while. thank fucking god this is (starting to be) over.

btw NYPD screw you for deploying 4 cars and 10 police officers to finish a small party at a corner in Astoria at 8pm.

fpsa, Monday, 31 October 2022 13:14 (one year ago) link

Nobody has heard anything from Bolsonaro or his sons yet, but his wife Michelle and him unfollowed each other

— Benjamin Fogel (@BenjaminFogel) October 31, 2022

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 31 October 2022 14:59 (one year ago) link

Has he still not said anything as of yet?

Chris L, Monday, 31 October 2022 17:29 (one year ago) link

So perhaps we may hope he is quietly giving up:

While Bolsonaro remained mute, key allies did accept the result in a sign that the populist’s power was rapidly ebbing away after four tumultuous years in office.

Silas Malafaia, a prominent televangelist who was one of Bolsonaro’s most vocal cheerleaders, tweeted: “The sovereign will of the people has established itself.”

Malafaia tweeted a quote from the British writer CS Lewis as his candidate’s defeat sank in: “It is not your business to succeed, but to do right. When you have done so the rest lies with God.”

The newly elected pro-Bolsonaro governor of São Paulo, Tarcísio de Freitas, also recognized Lula’s win, telling journalists: “The election result is sovereign.”

Another key ally, the lower house leader, Arthur Lira, said: “The will of the majority, expressed at the polls, should never be challenged.”

Even Sergio Moro, the pro-Bolsonaro judge who controversially jailed Lula in the lead-up to the 2018 election before taking a job in Bolsonaro’s cabinet, recognized the leftist’s victory.

“Thus is democracy,” Moro tweeted.

By Monday lunchtime the only hint that Bolsonaro might be prepared to accept defeat was a tweet from one of his closest allies, the evangelical preacher Damares Alves, in which she wrote: “We lost an election but we haven’t lost our love for our country ... Bolsonaro will leave the presidency in January with his head held high”.

José Roberto de Toledo, a political columnist for the news website UOL, thought it mattered little whether Bolsonaro conceded defeat or not.

“The senate has accepted [the result]. The lower house has accepted it. The electoral court has accepted it. All of the institutions have accepted it – and the military is quiet,” Toledo said, adding that he was rather enjoying a rare break from the president’s blathering. “Bolsonaro’s a poet when he shuts up,” Toledo said.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/oct/31/brazil-election-bolsonaro-concede-reaction

Mule, Monday, 31 October 2022 20:16 (one year ago) link

Bolsonaro 81% in Miami lmao. What a shitty city. pic.twitter.com/XZuDT4urwO

— Justin (@jdabre11) October 31, 2022

barry sito (gyac), Monday, 31 October 2022 22:20 (one year ago) link

the middle class to comfortably well off S American diaspora/ex pats in the US always seem to be big fans of fascism, both domestically and back in the "home country". Great set of lads.

calzino, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 01:35 (one year ago) link

It was ever thus. Older expats, I'll stress. I know a few younger ones who're naturalized citizens working for progressive causes.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 1 November 2022 01:56 (one year ago) link

Yeahh I have some relatives who emigrated to Brazil from Iran and later moved to Miami. idk how well off they still are but the last time I saw them one of them was spouting Fox News bullshit and the other was ranting about how universities are brainwashing our kids.

"H to the Izzo" means "I love you" (Deflatormouse), Tuesday, 1 November 2022 02:47 (one year ago) link

afaict the move to Miami precipitated their turn to fascism, don't remember it being an issue before that.

"H to the Izzo" means "I love you" (Deflatormouse), Tuesday, 1 November 2022 03:06 (one year ago) link

My Brazilian sister-in-law tells me Miami is full of wealthy Carioca law-and-order types who have fled Rio because the cops aren't killing enough people in the favelas to their liking.

Zelda Zonk, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 04:02 (one year ago) link

you can just call them all sudestinos lol

fpsa, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 16:12 (one year ago) link

being from the u.s. and kind of sheltered i was at first shocked to discover that many immigrants here were true believing chauvinists and white supremacists, even more hardcore than many americans. but now it makes a lot more sense. if you want to move here enough to make it happen you would most likely buy into what is a core part of the u.s.'s identity. also frantz fanon etc.

ę™® (map), Tuesday, 1 November 2022 16:48 (one year ago) link

I think it's also hard for most non-Brazilians to understand what Anti-PT ideology has done in the last 2 decades... it's a constant talking point and battle for so long, since Lula's first try at election in 1989, but the 2000s and 2010s were really bad in turning people against them.

fpsa, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 17:04 (one year ago) link

There’s a good number of Brazilians in Ireland and supposedly a lot of the newcomers in recent years have been anti-Bolsonaro. According to the Brazilian consulate 1% of the population is Brazilian (!). Anyway, they went for Lula.

BREAKING: 🇧🇷🇮🇪

🗳️ RESULTADO DA IRLANDA:

Lula VENCE na Irlanda

Results of Brazilian Citizens voting in Ireland (2nd Round):

Lula: 81.8%
Bolsonaro: 18.2%#Eleicoes2022 @eixopolitico @CentralEleicoes

— Next Irish General Election (@NextIrishGE) October 30, 2022

after several days on “the milk,” (gyac), Tuesday, 1 November 2022 17:18 (one year ago) link

lmao at this dickhead from the first round vote

Andre Carlos Pereira Rodrigues (24), whose family emigrated to Ireland when he was eight-years-old, was waiting in line to vote for Bolsonaro.

“With the pandemic is hasn’t been great for anybody, but I believe in some of his principles and what he wants to do for the country,” he said. “Yes he can be a little bit, very forward in the way he speaks. He’s got a good intention, he knows the common people,” he said.

“It’s good to vote, so we come out to vote, let people know our voice,” he told The Irish Times.

after several days on “the milk,” (gyac), Tuesday, 1 November 2022 17:23 (one year ago) link

Pobrecito.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 1 November 2022 21:31 (one year ago) link

a cowardly non-statement because he knows he's got no one in his corner now

but unsurprisingly bolsominions are doing QAnon levels of deep reading into it and arriving at "he wants us to continue to resist"

I think it's also hard for most non-Brazilians to understand what Anti-PT ideology has done in the last 2 decades... it's a constant talking point and battle for so long, since Lula's first try at election in 1989, but the 2000s and 2010s were really bad in turning people against them.

Difficult to tell with all the far right insanity cross-pollinating around the globe but I feel this is being imported to Portugal (aimed at the PS government, which is nowhere near as left as Lula) in the same way US culture war talking points get imported to the UK.

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 2 November 2022 11:08 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...

Brazil's lame duck President Jair Bolsonaro, who has only averaged about 25 minutes of work per day since becoming the first incumbent to ever lose a presidential election, has been rushed to the armed forces hospital in BrasĂ­lia with abdominal pain. https://t.co/q5GBCflqDt

— BrianMier (@BrianMteleSUR) November 18, 2022

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 18 November 2022 22:23 (one year ago) link

It’s starting pic.twitter.com/akQm2maHS4

— L Ron Mexico (@LRonMexico) November 19, 2022

link.exposing.politically (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 19 November 2022 22:49 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

BREAKING 🇧🇷: Bolsonaristas are invading Congress en masse in Brasilia.

pic.twitter.com/6dh3rItJgH

— David Adler (@davidrkadler) January 8, 2023

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 8 January 2023 18:44 (one year ago) link

Ugh, figures

Farewell to Evening in Paradise (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 8 January 2023 18:46 (one year ago) link

horrible

the shaker intro bit the shaker outro in the tail, hard (breastcrawl), Sunday, 8 January 2023 19:57 (one year ago) link

CNN International going for a “lol it’s just like Jan 6” approach so far

the shaker intro bit the shaker outro in the tail, hard (breastcrawl), Sunday, 8 January 2023 19:59 (one year ago) link

It looks a lot worse. Congress, Senate, Supreme court, presidential palace have been trashed.

Looks like it has also been organised out of Florida

BREAKING 🇧🇷: Evidence suggests that the Brasilia insurrection may have been planned in Florida. Secretary of Security for the Federal District is in the USA and recently traveled to Orlando — exactly where Jair Bolsonaro is currently staying.https://t.co/bm0ZrqOaVQ

— David Adler (@davidrkadler) January 8, 2023

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 8 January 2023 20:03 (one year ago) link

Not seeing whether Lula is safe at the moment?

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 8 January 2023 20:06 (one year ago) link

Ok.

Worth underlining here that nobody is at work in BrasĂ­lia today. President Lula is in SĂŁo Paulo, Congress and the Supreme Court are in recess. There is no Jan 6 attempt to theoretically block a change in government, this comes across as merely mindless and performative vandalism https://t.co/rvR5Fcqkja

— Euan Marshall (@euanmarshall) January 8, 2023

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 8 January 2023 20:09 (one year ago) link

Holy shit. A policeman arrives on horseback to contain the insurrection and the Bolsonaristas beat the horse and bloody the policeman to the ground. I am speechless pic.twitter.com/EhZZeTDq4M

— David Adler (@davidrkadler) January 8, 2023

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 8 January 2023 20:09 (one year ago) link

This is sickening.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 8 January 2023 20:12 (one year ago) link

Ugh

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 8 January 2023 20:13 (one year ago) link

Emergency state declared in BrasĂ­lia, the national guard will act as security. 150 people were already arrested, we have identified a lot of names. Hope we also get all the organizers of this whole mess

fpsa, Sunday, 8 January 2023 22:19 (one year ago) link

LIVE FROM BRAZIL 🇧🇷 : Lula points the finger directly at Bolsonaro. Says that Indigenous peoples, black communities, the "left" has never led such an attack on the nation's democracy. It was the "words of the ex-president" that led to today's violent insurrection, says Lula. pic.twitter.com/7RiXK3eVme

— David Adler (@davidrkadler) January 8, 2023

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 8 January 2023 22:41 (one year ago) link

Lula says agribusiness, illegal mining and illegal logging interests could be financiers of today's planned assault on government buildings by Bolsonarista cells.https://t.co/SFJRmysAIb

— Kawsachun News (@KawsachunNews) January 8, 2023

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 8 January 2023 22:56 (one year ago) link

This is good not bad.

Lula’s Speech 🇧🇷: “Those people we call fascists invaded the three powers [Congress, Court, Presidency]. Like real thugs. All these people will be found and will be punished. Democracy demands that people respect institutions. These vandals who might be called Nazis.” pic.twitter.com/8CLDKUfDAF

— David Adler (@davidrkadler) January 8, 2023

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 8 January 2023 23:07 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...

After the Youtube Administration, Brazil has been Hegel-pilled https://t.co/Cs7oTAe0xq

— Vincent Bevins (@Vinncent) January 23, 2023

xyzzzz__, Monday, 23 January 2023 18:59 (one year ago) link

why, why couldn't Haddad got elected in 2018, whyyyy

he was my neighbor for a while while he was mayor of SP! poor guy, everybody used to protest in front of his building (some protests were valid! some were dumb, but ok. others were just horrible people angry because he created dedicated lanes for buses during his time as mayor 🙄)

fpsa, Monday, 23 January 2023 21:33 (one year ago) link

five months pass...

<3

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/30/world/americas/bolsonaro-brazil-banned-office.html

to celebrate, play this as loud as possible:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvdKz4VPPq0

fpsa, Friday, 30 June 2023 20:29 (nine months ago) link

Great news!

I watched O Que É Isso, Companheiro? on yt today, for unrelated reasons but a good watch to celebrate this nonetheless.

Daniel_Rf, Friday, 30 June 2023 20:32 (nine months ago) link

ha, funny! not my favorite movie to be honest.

I'd celebrate maybe watching this:
https://archive.org/details/they-dont-wear-black-tie-1981-eles-nao-usam-black-tie-subtitled

or

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svh-lGcSDmU <- documentary on the beginnings of the labor movement of the steel workers in SĂŁo Paulo led by Lula. no subtitles, but it's pretty chilling

fpsa, Friday, 30 June 2023 20:45 (nine months ago) link


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