Though I don't mean to oversell its social conscience. I think this line from the NYT review is pretty otm: "Cregger isn’t as concerned with making bold political points as he is with orchestrating a snappy spectacle that goes a mile a minute. #MeToo, gentrification, the brutal underbelly of the Reagan era — all these elements fit like puzzle pieces into a broader nightmare that lets the context speak for itself."
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 30 October 2022 18:30 (one year ago) link
I guess I would have preferred it do one thing well than bits and pieces of other things that other movies did better.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 30 October 2022 19:33 (one year ago) link
I ... think it did? But again it really depends on your perception of what it was trying to do. I was getting pretty irritated with it until its first big gear shift, because I thought it was doing something that it wasn't actually doing (because it wants you to think that's what it's doing, until suddenly it's not any more). Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it's genius or perfect. But I do think it has a very deliberate structure and strategy.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 30 October 2022 20:04 (one year ago) link
maybe I'm just tired of troglodytes, lol.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 30 October 2022 20:24 (one year ago) link
Fair enough, although I liked that even the troglodyte didn't turn out to be the real bad guy. She was more in the tragic-monster tradition.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 30 October 2022 20:30 (one year ago) link
Barbarian was great. Every twist was a surprise, and all earned. 10/10, no notes.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Sunday, 30 October 2022 23:19 (one year ago) link
Still think it could have leaned in harder on the gentrification angle, frankly. I mean, THIS is a real horror story:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/oct/18/detroit-house-free-property-tax
But it was well-constructed in general and just doing that wisely-never-hinted-at-in-trailers mid-movie shift alone was smart.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 31 October 2022 02:05 (one year ago) link
Meantime was taking advantage of that A24 Streaming Room deal to catch up on a few things I'd missed. Saint Maud, that was an awe-inspiring final shot that transforms the film and the film was already pretty damn sharp.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 31 October 2022 02:07 (one year ago) link
Saint Maud is either on Hulu or Amazon Prime, I forget which, but it's definitely on my to-be-watched list.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 31 October 2022 02:22 (one year ago) link
Rewatched Cabin in the Woods and Saint Maud the last two days. Enjoyed them both. I'm convinced Saint Maud is a mini masterpiece
― Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Tuesday, 1 November 2022 01:30 (one year ago) link
Saint Maud is great, yeah. Tonight we finally watched Jennifer's Body, which I liked. It doesn't surprise me that it sort of fell through the cracks on its release, it's legitimately upsetting in some parts and funny in others. Fox and Seyfried were both good.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 1 November 2022 02:33 (one year ago) link
Speaking of funny, we also just watched Tucker & Dale the other night, loved it.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 1 November 2022 02:34 (one year ago) link
WE GOT YO FRAND
― stank viola (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 1 November 2022 02:46 (one year ago) link
Heh. I loved that movie.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 02:52 (one year ago) link
saw terrifier 2! lol
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 1 November 2022 04:46 (one year ago) link
man, wtf barbarian first half scared the full shit out of me in the best way and then as soon as the nursing video & the bottle happened i was like, wut… and just stared stupidly as this great movie got progressively less scary & more dumb & then it was over like it started with one idea & ended with like twelve. and it just got too heightened, it totally took me out of it. there was a better movie in there somewhere if he’d coco chanel-ed a few of his ideas. oh well. “
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 1 November 2022 05:20 (one year ago) link
Yeah, I mean, all the good themes that tipsy laid out are there in that first section, introduced with intelligence, subtlety and tons of suspense. And then either the guy ran out of ideas or had a crisis of confidence or had to deliver for the money people, because a la lots of disappointing horror movies, when the monster you see isn't nearly as scary as the monster you can't see, you've done something wrong. When the troglodyte burst through the wall and ripped the guy's arm off, I laughed, but not in a good way. Why do these inbred creatures in movies always have super-strength as well? You'd think they'd be vitamin deficient or something. Anyway, there are so many things you can do with a spooky basement or secret door, both of which are metaphor rich, but they went the literal route instead.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 12:08 (one year ago) link
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Monday, October 31, 2022 9:46 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
to expand: gross, not very scary (unless you're scared of clowns) (i'm not), takes place in a universe ruled by random cruelty and sadism (so our universe), but brings a lot of imagination and fun(?) to it. more impressed the more i think about it, can't think of a recent horror movie that more gleefully walks the line between ridiculous and upsetting. the story is very basic, practically a slasher writing prompt, but i didn't feel the 2.5 hour runtime at all (well except when the teens go to a boring halloween dance, my expectations for halloween party scenes are v high) and i loved whenever there was a dream sequence or a teen fantasy element bc i felt the film's narrow and cruel world expanding; also grateful the film spent zero time explaining the elm street-esque dreams and fantasy stuff, which would've made a good dumb movie bad dumb
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 1 November 2022 16:42 (one year ago) link
https://letterboxd.com/unbornwhiskey/list/halloween-2022-dead-by-dawn/
i also finished my october horror marathon, which since it was all pre-2006 is maybe more appropriate for the other thread, but wow it sure was a brainmelter. mostly incompetent z-grade grindhouse/direct-to-video/might as well be shot-on-video even if it isn't-type fare. i had an amazing time. if you were to ask me "which of these movies were legit good" i would dwell on the british horror classics the shout and xtro, those movies will fuck you up for days, plus fulci's the psychic which had the increasingly rare effect of pulling me in with its story, it's such a good yarn. but also the new argento, dark glasses, was an utter delight, otherworldly, atmospheric, unsettling, yet ultimately...wholesome(?) at its core. watching the characters take such good care of each other made me believe in humanity lol
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 1 November 2022 16:49 (one year ago) link
xpost I know it is sort of intentionally over the top, but I heard about a scene where someone is tortured and mutilated and nearly killed, then the magic clown leaves and comes back with salt and bleach just to torture her some more. and I thought, I get it, that's so ridiculous, but at the same time I thought really? *and* it's two and a half hours long? nah.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 17:20 (one year ago) link
i thought it was interesting that both barbarian and x both center around monsters that are grotesque naked women who are driven by stereotypically feminine concerns (feeling less attractive as they get older/motherhood) without anyone being offended by it (as far as i've seen). it bothered me more in x because of the whole "ew a gross old person wants sex" angle and bc the movie as a whole was not as good, at least in barbarian the monster is ultimately sympathetic, but it felt icky to me (not in a fun horror movie way) in both movies. i do agree barbarian suffered in the final chunk when they actually had to show and deal with the monster but that's true of like 85% of horror movies so i'm not going to ding it too hard for that.
― na (NA), Tuesday, 1 November 2022 17:29 (one year ago) link
pearl is totally sympathetic
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 1 November 2022 17:32 (one year ago) link
i think the movie plays it both ways
― na (NA), Tuesday, 1 November 2022 17:34 (one year ago) link
cynically
― na (NA), Tuesday, 1 November 2022 17:35 (one year ago) link
i agree the movie plays on the characters' and audience's revulsion toward aging bodies but i don't think it shares said revulsion. fair to read it the other way i guess
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 1 November 2022 17:38 (one year ago) link
but as a character she's totally as tragic a figure as the crone in barbarian. of course i'm a little informed by the prequel but i thought of x this way before i saw pearl
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 1 November 2022 17:40 (one year ago) link
i'm not super upset about any of this, i've seen enough horror movies to know how stuff like this works, i'm just surprised i didn't see any discourse around it
― na (NA), Tuesday, 1 November 2022 17:41 (one year ago) link
i've seen it mentioned in a few letterboxd reviews, especially of barbarian, which tend to note it as an inadvertent 2022 horror trend lol
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 1 November 2022 17:46 (one year ago) link
I think the stunt casting in "X" at least partially explained why a lot of people elided right over the "yuck, old people" angle. I haven't seen "Pearl," but there was this weird ambiguity to "X" that felt more ambitious than what the movie delivered, though not necessarily to its detriment.
Watching "Barbarian," I thought they totally leaned into the "ew" angle, but I thought it was mostly lazy, like much of the by the numbers end stuff.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 17:59 (one year ago) link
man can't believe a horror movie featured a character with grotesque facial features
― stank viola (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 1 November 2022 19:57 (one year ago) link
also Brad super otm re: Terrifier 2.
― stank viola (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 1 November 2022 19:58 (one year ago) link
using a balding old naked woman to horrify people is one of the oldest dullest tricks in the book imo. honestly because it's so common i didn't think twice about it in Barbarian. i wouldn't have expected her to look any different tbh.
― Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Tuesday, 1 November 2022 23:47 (one year ago) link
am I the only one here who thought Hatching was great? I am not a hardcore horror fan so it was just the right level of scary for me, also I love the sound of Finnish when spoken
I love Cabin In The Woods in all its meta glory
― sleeve, Wednesday, 2 November 2022 00:25 (one year ago) link
Boy, "X" was OK but "Pearl" was utterly inspired. Martin Scorsese otm.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 2 November 2022 19:19 (one year ago) link
prey for the devil: incredibly average possession/exorcism movie with more than a few anti-choice vibes? solid lead performance tho
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Saturday, 5 November 2022 23:24 (one year ago) link
lead was jacqueline byers who has barely been in anything but i look forward to seeing her in a good horror movie maybe someday
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Saturday, 5 November 2022 23:33 (one year ago) link
i saw two horror-adjacent-but-not-really-horror-movies recently and i don’t know where to post about them!:
1. the menu: maybe a little basic in some of its storyline choices but deliriously entertaining anyway
2. bones and all: this movie worked its way inside of me and did something to me and i’m different now
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 23 November 2022 23:37 (one year ago) link
Agree with the "Barbarian" reviews itt. The Justin Long "boop!" made me laugh.
― the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Thursday, 24 November 2022 01:58 (one year ago) link
The Menu felt like a foodie Theatre of Blood
This is a good thing
― Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Thursday, 24 November 2022 02:43 (one year ago) link
I thought "The Menu" was great, like "Charlie and the Chocolate Factory" by way of Peter Greenaway, with a dash of "Ratatouille."
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 26 November 2022 22:57 (one year ago) link
skinamarink: remember when you were a kid and you'd turn out the light to go to bed and the shadows in your room would collect into the shape of a face on the ceiling and if you were tired enough you could hear sounds like gnarled speech coming from its bottomless mouth
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, 1 December 2022 06:27 (one year ago) link
^^^ I just came here to post about this, my son the horror buff sent me the trailer last night. Intrigued.
― Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 1 December 2022 20:42 (one year ago) link
Getting some serious "Near Dark" vibes from "Bones and All."
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 23 December 2022 02:43 (one year ago) link
This was fine and there was more I liked about it than didn't, but at the same time it felt frustratingly half-baked, like a low-budget pandemic rush job, with limited time with the actors and locations (maybe it was?). Also count me among those that did not really like Mark Rylance's Clare Quilty as written (and directed) by Stephen King.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 23 December 2022 16:59 (one year ago) link
horror and horror-adjacent 2022:
crimes of the future dark glassesbones and allmad godpearlnopethe munstersorphan: first killyou won’t be aloneskinamarinksmilexterrifier 2halloween endsbodies bodies bodies
bitter disappointment:scream ‘22
best first 30 minutes of a horror movie:barbarian
not good at all:the invitationprey for the devil
still need to see:resurrectionwatcher
best horror movie from the past i saw for the first time this year:the shout (1978)
horror/horror-adjacent director i grew increasingly obsessed with over the year:shinya tsukamoto (tetsuo the iron man, kotoko)
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Saturday, 24 December 2022 18:40 (one year ago) link
Tsukamoto and The Shout is my all-time stuff, have you seen Tokyo Fist, Haze, Vital and Gemini yet?
Rebecca Hall has been in at least 3 horror films and I haven't seen any of them yet.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 25 December 2022 02:20 (one year ago) link
Best Horrors from 2022/2021 that I saw this year
Top Tier:SkinamarinkFlux GourmetHatchingYou Won't Be AloneThe NorthmanLambThe FeastMemoriaWe’re All Going to the World’s FairHellraiserCensorStrawberry Mansion
Middle Tier:HellraiserDeadwareIncantionBlack PhoneShe WillBarbarianGaiaBroadcast Signal IntrusionThings Heard & SeenIn the EarthResurrectionPreyVHS 94NopeShepherd
Disappointing:XDeadstreamThe 8th NightMediumWatcherMidnight Mass
― glumdalclitch, Sunday, 25 December 2022 21:40 (one year ago) link
Lol I see I've put Hellraiser in 2 tiers, and that def reflects my indecisiveness over how good it is...
― glumdalclitch, Sunday, 25 December 2022 21:44 (one year ago) link
Did you see Pearl? I thought it was a lot better/more interesting than X.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 25 December 2022 21:55 (one year ago) link
still working my way through the filmography so no not yet! literally just saw tetsuo ii body hammer a few weeks ago (it’s insanely great and i should’ve bought the manga entertainment release back when it was constantly advertised to me on anime dvds when i was 12… wonder how i would’ve reacted to it, suspect i would’ve instantly been on its wavelength bc people transcending their bodies to become big guns is awesome)
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 25 December 2022 22:03 (one year ago) link