andrew sullivan c/d

i know i've told this story upthread but in 2018 after the demise of my first serious relationship and in the confusing desperation of heartbreak i was swept away by a charming boy scoutish gay guy from utah who was living in dc co-running a fitness music company and djing. i dropped everything and moved out there to be with this guy and was kind of a kept boy for about a year, lots of red flags everywhere including the fact that he invited me to live with him in a serious relationship after having only met me (and being like 15 years older than me) but i went with it because i literally quit my job in utah, what else was i going to do. anyway we would go to this fancy gym on u street and one time he ran into andrew sullivan at the entrance to the men's locker room on our way out of there. i was honestly not familiar with a.s. at all but i remember thinking that he must be an asshole because what kind of person stops right in the middle of the entrance to the locker room to have a conversation? anyway i quickly figured out that this guy who i moved halfway across the country to be with was pretty white supremacist at heart and would show so much weird animosity toward black people in dc. i'm glad that relationship eventually blew up but he could have not just thrown me out on the street in the middle of december with nowhere to go. the end. anyway i can't think of enough bad things to say about andrew sullivan now that i know who he is and the extent of his grossness.

wow

glad you got out of that situation but i'm sorry it happened and ended that way, fuck him and AS

i've been meaning to listen the sullivan episode of the bad gays podcast but i'm worried it will piss me off too much

lol ty, it's long past thank goodness.

there was a great takedown of as linked somewhere upthread but i can't recall who wrote it.

OK this guy went to school with Keir Starmer. I don't know what that says about either of them though.

for real? fuck me I hate this world

Fuck them both obviously, but I don't think who you went to school with says anything much unless you were friends - I certainly went to school with some horrible people.

sure but british private schools tend to produce a certain type

I'm so fucking angry I can barely type.

not saying everyone always but in these cases i think it's safe to say xp

Actually googling both their names throws up a Spectator article by Sullivan and it seems they were indeed friends and still keep in touch. Jesus Christ.

i want to cry

wau did you know this guy approved The Bell Curve articles

And here he is 25-plus years later. Talk about resistance to learning! (OK I borrowed that joke from the Twitter feed.)

learning about how hard liberal-ish prestige media promoted that book in the US in the 90s is so infuriating and a lot of it was his doing

it also feels like a part of the puzzle regarding how we got here and why these outlets we still have unwarrented faith in keep fucking up so badly

According the above-mentioned Spectator article, Sullivan still believes "the role of genetics in intelligence among different human populations is an open question". Starmer sure knows how to pick his friends...

NARRATOR: It is, in fact, fake.

I'm afraid this isn't fake. But it's the most honest explanation of "equity" I've yet heard. Redistribution pudding followed by a topping of racial revenge. https://t.co/ElhxYQ08py

— Andrew Sullivan (@sullydish) February 15, 2023

I hate this racist dickhole

The old rainbow flag was a simple, apolitical unifying metaphor for gays and lesbians. This is an ideological flag for “queers” (including straights) opposed to “white supremacy” and the sex binary. https://t.co/BcSj5nCfDu

— Andrew Sullivan (@sullydish) March 26, 2023

what a fuckin weirdo

I'm waiting for him and Dreher to fall in love.