Another fucking spree shooting. Great.

yeah. in the aftermath of these things, the first thing everyone always wants to know is who did it and why. so often, there is no real good reason. the world seems so awful to them that the act of killing innocent people doesn't seem much worse, i guess. and then, all else equal, might as well go out with a bang, so to speak. very dark.

it is sad that people probably think "at least only two died" at this point

dang, omar. did that guy live?

what is wild to me with the schools is when they've already graduated. ffs you were out. hopeless and insane. too sad

No idea what happened — he was definitely shot and down but it didn’t even make the local news.

I called LAPD to ask about it and they said they couldn’t tell me anything, could only confirm there was a shooting.

kind of an odd twist -- not only was the family aware of the shooter's troubles and actively trying to get him help, but investigators think that the gun he ended up using was somehow the same one that his family had transferred out of the household earlier because they were worried he would use it. the note the shooter left alluded to obtaining the gun in a private sale after he was unable to get one at a gun show. maybe he bought it back from whoever the family gave it to? ugh

The family of a 19-year-old who killed two people and injured others in a shooting at a St. Louis high school went to great lengths to prevent him from harming himself or others, including having police remove a firearm he had acquired and transfer it to someone else, officials said Wednesday.

"The impression that I get from the investigator who spoke to the mother is that they’ve done everything that they could possibly have done," interim St. Louis Police Chief Michael Sack said during a news conference, "but sometimes that’s not enough."

The shooter, identified as Orlando Harris, was shot and killed by a responding police officer after Harris opened fire at Central Visual and Performing Arts High School on Monday, killing a 16-year-old student and a 61-year-old teacher and wounding seven others. Police have said Harris, who had graduated from the school last year, did not have a prior criminal history, but his family told investigators they had been helping him with his mental health issues.

"They’ve hooked him up with a professional mental health provider," Sack told reporters. "Whenever they noticed him kind of stepping out of line or going out of turn, they always worked to try and get him back on his medication, back into therapy, or whatever it is that he needed."

Sometime in the last few months, the family had reached out to the St. Louis Police Department to transfer a firearm the shooter had acquired to another adult because his mother wanted it out of the house, Sack said. She and her daughter then continued to monitor him, tracking what came in the mail and even occasionally searching his room.

Still, Sack said he believes the gun used in the attack may have been the same one his family had removed from their home.

"How he acquired it after that, you know, we don't know," he said. "That's what we’re looking into."

The shooter was armed with a .223-caliber AR-15-style rifle and brought more than 600 rounds of ammunition with him to the school, police said. The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives is working to trace the firearm, but Sack noted that private gun deals can be more challenging to investigate. A motive for the shooting is not yet known. The investigation is ongoing.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/skbaer/st-louis-school-shooter-gun

what an awful feeling

like what’s worse, not doing anything or doing every right thing with the same end result

The thing is, they’ve addressed pretty much every thing except the main thing, which is all the guns. This state and this country is absolutely sarurates with them

*saturated

Gaturated

https://abcnews.go.com/US/dead-18-injured-shooting-colorado-club-officials/story?id=93658669

5 dead, 18 injured in hate shooting at Colorado LGBTQ Club, suspect in custody m

Christ

An update

https://www.kktv.com/video/2022/11/20/watch-authorities-provide-update-club-q-shooting-colorado-springs/

(This video is geo-restricted. Error 931.) - but anyway, shooter is a 22 year old guy, name can be found elsewhere

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/nov/23/multiple-deaths-after-shooting-at-walmart-in-chesapeake-virginia

JFC (although he seems high as fuck on something)

The Colorado shooter’s dad on finding out his son murdered people: “They started telling me about the incident, a shooting... And then I go on to find out it’s a gay bar. I got scared, ‘Shit, is he gay?’ And he’s not gay, so I said, phew… I am a conservative Republican.” (@CBS8) pic.twitter.com/7Zw4vpLtjE

— No Lie with Brian Tyler Cohen (@NoLieWithBTC) November 23, 2022

He was also an actor in a bunch of straight pornography films and has meth charges associated with him. Wild and sad ride

porn? this guy?

This is the booking photograph of the Shooting at Club Q suspect. pic.twitter.com/uA7lvU6S27

— Colorado Springs Police Department (@CSPDPIO) November 23, 2022

the shooter's father is the porn actor

nobody looks great when they've just had their head stomped

yeah Stan M, it was the shooter’s fascist dad who was the tweaker porn actor, not the shooter

i cannot believe i am writing such sentences tbh

thank you for recognizing him

Hard to know what’s going on with that Monterey Park shooting, details are scarce and the shooter fled, but it’s just awful.

Apparently the shooter turned up at another dancehall earlier on, and people spotted his gun and grabbed/stopped him so he fled that venue.

The articles say “dance studio” which I thought was a place where you learned dancing. Is “dance studio” Californian for nightclub or dance hall?

I heard they taught traditional Chinese and ballroom dances, so the former.

I think that particular place is a regular type (albeit somewhat larger) dance studio space which was being used for this particular new year celebration party.

Ah.

Shooter (72 yr old Asian man) killed himself in Torrance, per reports.

it's surprising to me that the suspect is in his seventies.

FWIW, the Laguna Woods shooter was 68. Many of the dance studios/dance halls in the San Gabriel Valley have evening events for folks in their 50s and older and the shooter was apparently a former instructor.

Stephen Paddock was 64. It’s not all disgruntled college age incels out there.

yeah. in some ways it makes it more disturbing. these guys had a lifetime to accumulate wisdom and experience but are still in thrall to their narcissistic grievances.

school shooting in des moines. 2 students dead, 1 staff in hospital :(

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Sometimes I think it's the "nothing to lose, nothing to look forward to" factor that allows older folks to do this.

yeah, i suppose if you live for yourself and yourself alone, feeling no charity or solidarity toward your fellow human beings, that logic would make sense. i guess that, specifically, is what fucks me up about it.

Ok Jesus Christ

https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/peninsula/deadly-shootings-half-moon-bay/3137085/?amp=1

Seven people were shot and killed at two separate scenes in Half Moon Bay Monday afternoon, according to the San Mateo County Sheriff's Office.

Four victims were found dead at about 2:22 p.m. along the 12700 block of Cabrillo Highway, the sheriff's office said. Another victim was transported to Stanford Medical Center with life-threatening injuries.

Shortly after that discovery, three more victims were found dead at a separate scene in the area, according to the sheriff's office.

The suspect, 67-year-old Half Moon Bay resident Zhao Chunli, was taken into custody at about 4:40 p.m. after he was found in his vehicle in the parking lot of the Half Moon Bay substation, the sheriff's office said. He was taken into custody without incident and a weapon was found in his car.

another senior citizen?

yeah certainly weird to have two older asian guys shooting anyone in CA. I did read that this is a demographic that may have started arming themselves in the past few years at a higher rate due to anti-AAPI sentiment; whenever you start having more guns around, shit like this starts happening. Video of the arrest of this guy is pretty intense.

anyway more details on the Monterey Park shooter coming out (isolated, long time angry weirdo) and the Half Moon bay shooting turning out to be some kind of workplace dispute, I think the age and demographics being shared by these shooters is simply a coincidence.

As AKM points out, the gun ownership may have a correlation - but yeah, other than that they don't seem to have much connection on the face of it.

Oh wait.. as YOU pointed out!

Bigger picture, the prospect of septuagenarian mass shooters seems unsurprising given how many angry old guys with guns there are out there.

wanna feel old dylan klebold would be 42 today

This is not a realm in which I want more diversity and inclusion

certainly not. but in the way we now have people who have survived multiple mass shootings we now have an adult population who has lived their entire lives with this bullshit

The mass shooting is such a well established trope at this point. It’s in the air for people to turn to when they are feeling alienated and aggrieved.

much of american culture tells people the answer to their problems is to arm themselves, sadly

Including people on this message board!