Taylor Swift - Midnights

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sonically it's closest to the good half of lover but the production is richer

ufo, Friday, 21 October 2022 04:52 (one year ago) link

That is how I feel about the new 1975 album.

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Bee OK, Friday, 21 October 2022 04:54 (one year ago) link

I think the production on Lover was more distinctive, fwiw… going back now and listening to a track like “I Think He Knows” feels like a breath of fresh air.

Reese's Pisces Iscariot (morrisp), Friday, 21 October 2022 05:08 (one year ago) link

(I mention that song specifically, because you can hear its chorus in “Lavender Haze,” and its bridge in “Question…”)

Reese's Pisces Iscariot (morrisp), Friday, 21 October 2022 05:13 (one year ago) link

Man, if you don't like the way Taylor Swift writes a melody, you're just never going to like Taylor Swift I guess. Why? Because she keeps revisiting the same few tricks again and again and again for close to 20 years.

*you = me

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Friday, 21 October 2022 05:16 (one year ago) link

She does that thing a lot where she quickly raises the pitch of a vocal line

To abuse a trendy phase – this kind of sounds like if you asked an AI to make a Taylor Swift pop album. (I do like “Anti-Hero”…)

Reese's Pisces Iscariot (morrisp), Friday, 21 October 2022 05:29 (one year ago) link

Anti-Hero and Vigilante Shit are highlights for me so far.

The Ghost Club, Friday, 21 October 2022 05:33 (one year ago) link

lover was more upbeat but the production was a bit chintzy, i just much prefer how all the synth textures sound here

ufo, Friday, 21 October 2022 05:39 (one year ago) link

I'm not a theory nerd so I don't know how to describe each of her melodic crutches, but she does that thing a lot where, yes, she curves the ends of words up. Or takes the lyric down into a warmer chord you don't expect (except it's Taylor, and she's done it the same way 80 other times, so you DO expect it). Or that thing where she'll chop the cadence up very staccato. I don't think I'd mind so much if her accompaniment was ever more than an afterthought, but it seems purposely bland in order to place focus on her melodies and, y'all, them melodies are TIRED.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Friday, 21 October 2022 05:40 (one year ago) link

Still working my way through a first listen, but it feels like a deliberate grower album - the sort where what seems like "this is the best song" will change a lot for me over the course of say six months.

The dream sequence in "Anti-Hero" is great.

And stuff like that hints at how this is like revisiting a lot of the explicit motifs (sonic and otherwise) of the 1989 through Lover era, but holding onto the storytelling emphases and flourishes of Folklore and (even more so) Evermore - "Vigilante Shit" is basically "What if "Bad Blood" but "No Body, No Crime"?" ("Well he was doing lines and crossing all of mine" is hilarious and corny and I love it).

Tim F, Friday, 21 October 2022 05:52 (one year ago) link

My first impression is that all the songs are basically good. They're all very catchy. And mellow, which might be same-y to some. But lie Time says there are so many 'good' songs here I'm sure favourites will shift a lot, turn into great songs in the spotlight.

It's not as exciting an idea or maybe album as folklore and evermore, but it seems like a remarkably consistently good selection of songs - possibly several of her greatest synth pop songs collected together.

abcfsk, Friday, 21 October 2022 06:08 (one year ago) link

she sounds much more comfortable overall with pop than before, she doesn't really awkwardly try to force things at all

ufo, Friday, 21 October 2022 06:16 (one year ago) link

lmao the "chaotic surprise" she was teasing was a deluxe edition with 7 additional tracks being released 3 hours later

ufo, Friday, 21 October 2022 08:16 (one year ago) link

they're all good but i generally get why they weren't on the main album for one reason or another

ufo, Friday, 21 October 2022 08:43 (one year ago) link

this album is fucking GOOD

johnny crunch, Friday, 21 October 2022 10:39 (one year ago) link

bonus tracks are totally amazing

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 21 October 2022 12:49 (one year ago) link

this album is fucking GOOD

― johnny crunch, Friday, October 21, 2022

lol wau. This to me after three passes sounds like her most enervated release, a poor second attempt at LOVER.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 21 October 2022 12:51 (one year ago) link

haven’t felt this positively about her album offcuts since 1989

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 21 October 2022 12:52 (one year ago) link

“would’ve could’ve should’ve” is instantly one of her best songs jesus

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 21 October 2022 13:00 (one year ago) link

My teen's hot take is that it sounds like a cross between half of Lover and half of Reputation.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 21 October 2022 13:10 (one year ago) link

sounds closer to 1989 than lover to me

johnny crunch, Friday, 21 October 2022 13:30 (one year ago) link

the mark they saw on my collarbone
the rust that grew between telephones

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 21 October 2022 13:48 (one year ago) link

^^ "maroon" is evidence that taylor swift should only write songs about what colors remind her of

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 21 October 2022 13:49 (one year ago) link

in addition to rilo kiley, "you're on your own, kid" reminds me a little of vanessa carlton's "white houses," the song that invented taylor swift in 2004

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 21 October 2022 13:59 (one year ago) link

Dropping a surprise Deluxe Edition on the day the album comes out (and everyone’s orders have already been locked in) is a shit move.

Reese's Pisces Iscariot (morrisp), Friday, 21 October 2022 14:12 (one year ago) link

i mean if we're talking about physical pre-orders, the deluxe edition is digital only anyway

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 21 October 2022 14:15 (one year ago) link

After two times thru I don't have a firm grasp on this but I think I a.) like the vibe and her attempt at something different sonically; b.) also think the vibe has a bit of a deadening/homogenizing effect on the songs; and c.) the songs are ... pretty good?

I think "a pretty good Taylor Swift album" isn't as exciting an idea as a great one or an abject failure and I know it's more of a tepid take than a hot one. But that's where I feel like I'm landing, pending more time with it.

xp oh, ok - lol

Reese's Pisces Iscariot (morrisp), Friday, 21 October 2022 14:35 (one year ago) link

agree with tipsy, listened to this last night and it seemed 'pretty good' but very little of it stood out to me; it has a very homogenous feel to it.

akm, Friday, 21 October 2022 14:39 (one year ago) link

This album feels very "Johnny Fever's Shambala Threads circa 2014-2017".

MarkoP, Friday, 21 October 2022 15:27 (one year ago) link

Or alternatively, "1989, but we're just going to stick to sounding mostly like Lorde and Chrvches instead of trying to rewrite Happy".

MarkoP, Friday, 21 October 2022 15:35 (one year ago) link

I was thinking Lorde too, but I realize that probably mostly means Antonoff.

One vocal line definitely reminded me of Lorde, I forget what it was

Reese's Pisces Iscariot (morrisp), Friday, 21 October 2022 15:43 (one year ago) link

Possibly, but 1989 gave me Lorde vibes in some songs at the time, and that was before Lorde started working with Antonoff.

MarkoP, Friday, 21 October 2022 15:44 (one year ago) link

ok for the most part i'm like "i see why the bonus tracks didn't make the record" but i am baffled that "hits different" didn't make it

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 21 October 2022 15:52 (one year ago) link

Joel Little-era Lorde is a more apt comparison than Jack Antonoff-era Lorde.

The Ghost Club, Friday, 21 October 2022 16:37 (one year ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1kbLwvqugk

Bee OK, Friday, 21 October 2022 16:48 (one year ago) link

Bejeweled, Labyrinth, Karma run is very strong. Also love Midnight Rain.

Cinta Kaz is comin' to town (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 21 October 2022 17:09 (one year ago) link

Can't be the only one disappointed that Taylor used her barely-matched power and pull within the industry to make four pressings of the album that form a clock (or something) instead of being a concept like Zaireeka (Taylor's Version).

strangling vinyl production for the rest of the industry in the process!

comedy khadafi (voodoo chili), Friday, 21 October 2022 19:44 (one year ago) link

I know what the title of this album is, but just now misread it as “Midgets”.

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 21 October 2022 20:09 (one year ago) link

it's midge nights, and it's about the 2007 american league division series

comedy khadafi (voodoo chili), Friday, 21 October 2022 20:30 (one year ago) link

Lol

Bee OK, Friday, 21 October 2022 20:42 (one year ago) link

delighted by the tall girl angst on "anti-hero"

brad otm about "hits different" but maybe she felt it was too upbeat lol

ufo, Friday, 21 October 2022 21:46 (one year ago) link

i'm really just delighted that she's discovered the idea of consistency with these last 3 albums, after how all-over the place her albums had been for ages

ufo, Friday, 21 October 2022 21:47 (one year ago) link

Xp it's not tall girl angst, it's fatphobia masquerading as ED commentary. The music video makes it explicit. Pretty disappointing.

The Ghost Club, Friday, 21 October 2022 22:09 (one year ago) link

Haven't seen the video yet, but I do not really see the "fatphobia" reading. Earlier this month she was talking about how this song addressed her life as being "unmanageably sized":

💬 | “I struggle a lot with the idea that my life has become unmanageably sized […] the idea of not feeling like a person. Don’t feel bad for me, you don’t need to. This song is a real guided tour through all the things I hate about myself.” — Taylor Swift on Track 3 Anti-Hero pic.twitter.com/f1DzHpdBA2

— Taylor Swift News 🕰️ (@TSwiftNZ) October 3, 2022

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 21 October 2022 22:14 (one year ago) link

Yeah well I'd watch the video...

The Ghost Club, Friday, 21 October 2022 22:16 (one year ago) link

i watched the video and you’re gonna have to hold my hand and explain bc it just registered to me as… tall girl angst

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 21 October 2022 22:23 (one year ago) link

i don't think the scene of her as a giant is fatphobia or that she mishandled the pretty banal ED commentary?

there's layers of too tall/too fat/too famous and she's addressing all of them

ufo, Friday, 21 October 2022 22:26 (one year ago) link


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