Roxy Music Live - S/D

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(it is better than that Stardust movie that recently came out though).

there was a daniel craig movie several years back called "Flashbacks of a Fool" which has roxy and ferry as major plot points, even dressing craig up as ferry. but it didn't do very well I suppose.

akm, Wednesday, 19 October 2022 22:41 (one year ago) link

oh I guess it was the actor who plays Craig's character when younger. anyway here you go

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8f09xX7-Kos

akm, Wednesday, 19 October 2022 22:42 (one year ago) link

In the early '90s Ferry and Bowie were wiped off American radio. I heard "Jump They Say" and "I Put a Spell on You" on my college station a couple times, dat's dat.

I still heard Bowie on Chicago “classic rock” stations in the early ‘90s, but usually just “Changes” or “Suffragette City.” “Jump They Say” got heavy airplay on the northeast “alternative” station I listened to — that is, I listened to the station mainly in the hopes they’d play “Jump They Say,” and they fortunately delivered.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 19 October 2022 22:53 (one year ago) link

Heart's Filthy Lesson and I'm Afraid of Americans were legitimate alternative radio hits. Nothing much after that though (I also stopped listening to commercial radio by the late 90's, for the most part).

akm, Thursday, 20 October 2022 04:46 (one year ago) link

Tuesday's Child definitely got PR push and had a video (as did other things on Hours) but the album was so poorly received I don't recall any of it really getting much traction, and then of course Bowie stopped doing videos for Heathen, I don't think he did any for Reality, and neither of those really had 'singles' songs and radio had completely changed by then.

akm, Thursday, 20 October 2022 05:57 (one year ago) link

As for Roxy: I certainly remember Avalon on the radio at the time of release, I never know who did that song until fairly late in the 80's. My parents around 79/80/81 listened to a lot of contemporary and 'crossover country' and I swear Avalon got play on those stations so I honestly never associated it with a British band. By the time of the 90's no, I don't remember Ferry or Roxy fairing very well radiowise in the US. I was into Ferry heavily in the early 90's and was one of like three people I knew who were into that but it was an extension of interest in art rock, Japan/Sylvian/Mick Karn stuff, etc, ie we were called art fags.

akm, Thursday, 20 October 2022 06:02 (one year ago) link

Same, though I discovered Japan/Sylvian and New Pop in the '90s through Ferry.

I was a consistent college radio listener through 1999 and never once heard "Heart's..." or "I'm Afraid of Americans." Guess it depended on region.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 20 October 2022 09:26 (one year ago) link

The MuchMusic channel in Canada was still showing videos like "Mamouna" or "Thursday's Child", not in frequent rotation, but enough that I knew they existed without seeking them out.

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 20 October 2022 14:42 (one year ago) link

Roxy I recall hearing (three or four or five songs) a pretty good deal on WMMR in Philly growing up. but I got into Roxy by way of Eno (though always saw "Avalon" on audiophile lists); I don't recall listening to solo Ferry until "Mamouna," and again I think that was due to Eno, who was in his imperial '90s phase and all over that album. Stuff like Sylvian I got into by way of Fripp. Bowie I likely got into by way of both, Fripp and Eno.

By the '90s I was in Chicago and recall hearing "Earthing" stuff a lot on XRT, though don't recall hearing much "Outside" stuff on the radio.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 20 October 2022 14:51 (one year ago) link

Did any of Bowie's '90s videos get much airplay? I remember getting that DVD set and thinking that I had never seen any of them before. (Which is a shame for many reasons - they clearly put in a lot of work into each of them.)

birdistheword, Thursday, 20 October 2022 15:21 (one year ago) link

"Jump They Say" is top five Bowie videoe.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 20 October 2022 17:21 (one year ago) link

*Video

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 20 October 2022 17:22 (one year ago) link

within my friendgroup roxy was kind of like a record nerd band. juts like the eno records. seeing them in the uk this tour seems like they were more like fleetwood mac are over here or something. the whole crowd knew every word from every song. also billy idol sat near me which i might have already said!

kurt schwitterz, Thursday, 20 October 2022 17:29 (one year ago) link

Hearing it in the wild today, I'm reminded what a different world this have been if Ferry had taken the "Don't You (Forget About Me)" assignment.

Also, re: '90s Radio & Bowie: Classic Rock radio never forgot "Fame", "Rebel Rebel" and "Let's Dance".

...and "Changes" too!

A song that was never a hit in the US was Life on Mars. It’s odd how well known it is now.

akm, Sunday, 23 October 2022 05:04 (one year ago) link

Sales figures would suggest that more Americans knew the Barbra Streisand version of "Life on Mars" until recently, as it was on her ButterFly album that charted at #13 and went gold.

Josefa, Sunday, 23 October 2022 12:13 (one year ago) link

Don't think Life On Mars had much recognition amongst the american general populace until a season of American Horror Story used it to death.

dan selzer, Sunday, 23 October 2022 14:47 (one year ago) link

yes, that! it's kind of weird to see it retconned into one of his most iconic songs now but obv. the US is not the world (neither is it mars)

akm, Sunday, 23 October 2022 14:55 (one year ago) link

Hearing it in the wild today, I'm reminded what a different world this have been if Ferry had taken the "Don't You (Forget About Me)" assignment.

Do we really think Ferry’s version of this would have been the iconic hit Simple Minds’ was? Even if we assume he’d have sung over the same Keith Forsey backing track I have a hard time hearing his rendition as having any of the carefree qualities that really make the released version.

Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 23 October 2022 14:56 (one year ago) link

Yep. Ferry's top-button-buttoned-at-all-times ethos doesn't suit an arrangement meant to be bellowed.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 23 October 2022 14:58 (one year ago) link

Yeah, he's James Bond lounging by the pool at the casino (and still in a tux), not James Bond in tactical gear about to rappel down a tall building.

I still hear tons of Bowie on the radio all the time. "Changes," "Space Oddity," "Ziggy," "Suffragette City," "Let's Dance," "Modern Love," "Jean Genie," "Diamond Dogs," "Heroes," "Starman," "Young Americans," "Fame," "Ashes to Ashes," "Golden Years," "Rebel Rebel," "China Girl," "Under Pressure." Rarely "Life on Mars," sometimes "DJ" or "Scary Monsters." Pretty impressive classic rock (and beyond) showing for a guy whose fame in the US was sort of simultaneously perennial and peripheral.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 23 October 2022 16:44 (one year ago) link

IIRC Kerr came up with the “Laaaa/Lalalalaaaa…” bit himself too. I can’t remotely imagine 80s Ferry singing that (tho These Foolish Things Ferry could’ve done wonders there, I suspect).

Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 23 October 2022 17:12 (one year ago) link

I am a sirius XM subscriber, and I note that Berlin/Scary Monsters DB as well as Peter Gabriel from Melt on fits the "First Wave" format, i.e. new wave and major label post-punk such as the Cure, REM, Smiths, Depeche Mode, New Order et al, as well as Classic Rewind, which approximates AOR from 1978-1986… the Genesis shit/"Solsbury Hill" and DB stuff going up to Young Americans resides on "Classic vinyl"… whereas any Roxy music and Ferry solo shit at all is formatted only on First Wave…granted, that's only "Love is the Drug" and the avalon material as far as Roxy (we have agreed on this thread that that material is what Roxy amounts to as far as the mass audience in America is concerned anyway), but Ferry is purely a classic alternative artist as far as Sirius, which while a deeper experience of commercial radio than, say, IHeartRadio is still very much a product of commercial radio…

I've always wanted to start a Sirius XM thread, as I do find the fragmenting and winnowing down of commercial radio formats so that deep cuts are regularly played to be interesting…not sure if anyone else would be interested…

veronica moser, Sunday, 23 October 2022 17:25 (one year ago) link

I really enjoyed my trial of satellite radio that came with the car. I think I might have renewed once at a discounted rate? After the rates went up fully, and dismayed by all the bullshit political stuff they broadcast, I canceled it, but I really did like all the music stations. Not sure where I would have heard most Roxy, aside from the obvious stuff. Deep Tracks channel?

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 23 October 2022 18:51 (one year ago) link

they also play Roxy on Deep Tracks

kurt schwitterz, Sunday, 23 October 2022 19:25 (one year ago) link

six months pass...

First time for me seeing this great 1973 show! posted today:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LspMHCeyCw

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 2 May 2023 18:11 (one year ago) link

whoah.

dan selzer, Tuesday, 2 May 2023 18:20 (one year ago) link

holy shit

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 2 May 2023 18:22 (one year ago) link

Holy shit!

Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 2 May 2023 18:23 (one year ago) link

lol xp

Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 2 May 2023 18:23 (one year ago) link

Bryan Ferry on guitar.

dan selzer, Tuesday, 2 May 2023 18:25 (one year ago) link

Eno doing some Terry Riley-esque time lag accumulator tape delay on the reel to reel for Mckay's epic if there is something breakdown...

dan selzer, Tuesday, 2 May 2023 18:28 (one year ago) link

Eno and Mckay with arms outstretched for the harmony vocals during the ending. Never thought I'd see that.

dan selzer, Tuesday, 2 May 2023 18:30 (one year ago) link

Marvelous!

Piedie Gimbel, Tuesday, 2 May 2023 18:55 (one year ago) link

"Eno and Mckay with arms outstretched for the harmony vocals during the ending. Never thought I'd see that."

without a doubt, anyone who has ever cared about Eno or Ferry/Roxy MUST see this… it is some Wicker Man/ Midsommar shit and you will be scarred for the rest of your life…

veronica moser, Tuesday, 2 May 2023 19:42 (one year ago) link

Quick notes:

- Andy Mackay's three-finger organ jabbing is almost as inspired as Ferry's.

- Ferry sweats like a farm animal

- Manzanera doesn't play a single dull note.

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 May 2023 20:00 (one year ago) link

BADGERS COULDN'T COMPENSATE AT TWICE THE PRICE

mark s, Tuesday, 2 May 2023 20:34 (one year ago) link

otm

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 May 2023 20:38 (one year ago) link

holy shit x4 or whatever

Perverted By Linguiça (sleeve), Wednesday, 3 May 2023 03:27 (one year ago) link

Holy shit x5

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 3 May 2023 05:05 (one year ago) link

what's her name? holy shit

dan selzer, Wednesday, 3 May 2023 11:37 (one year ago) link


without a doubt, anyone who has ever cared about Eno or Ferry/Roxy MUST see this… it is some Wicker Man/ Midsommar shit and you will be scarred for the rest of your life…


Coincidentally, took place three days before Sgt Howie met his end.

https://i.imgur.com/O2mFZ0Z.jpg

Alba, Wednesday, 3 May 2023 12:21 (one year ago) link

i hadn't seen the complete montreux set before, really cool! have folks seen the bataclan november '72 set that's on the deluxe s/t set? it's rather rougher, on-stage grainy film with lots of cuts, but it's got a great version of "would you believe" - prob. my fave eno backing vox on record. at bataclan mackay is more highlighted. the really frustrating thing is that i would _kill_ for a complete recording of a fall '72 show in good quality. "if there is something" reached truly epic heights live - the version on _viva!_ is nearly perfunctory compared to early versions. the BBC version from august '72 (unforgivably left off the deluxe set - i'd also kill for a really good recording of that) is fine enough. i could listen to eno treat mackay and manzanera's instrumental duo for hours. anyway the fall '72 version is only 18 minutes... the only complete recording i know of is a truly abysmal fidelity recording of croydon - one of the worst-quality bootleg recordings i've heard, and i've heard a _lot_ of bootleg recordings. the music, though? chef's kiss.

Kate (rushomancy), Wednesday, 3 May 2023 16:09 (one year ago) link

Watched this last night and it’s amazing - seems like they got much less rave-up/improvisatory after this. I love how the attention of the performances are about equally divided between all the members, almost like Can. Like an outfit where MacKay, Eno and Ferry are co-leaders.

Terrycoth Baphomet (bendy), Saturday, 6 May 2023 18:08 (eleven months ago) link

Highlights of this, other than the appearance of Manzanera's fly's eye sunglasses at the end, were the interstitial/interlude bits where everyone else stands around waiting for one or two members to finish making a glorious racket before they all start back into the songs.

Halfway there but for you, Monday, 8 May 2023 02:03 (eleven months ago) link


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