Spotify - anyone heard of it?

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I was wondering - is it correct to say that streaming payouts are a zero sum game? If, hypothetically, all current users doubled their listening so all artists doubled their streams - this would not yield higher payouts?

corrs unplugged, Monday, 17 October 2022 10:55 (one year ago) link

Right, the current standard royalty model for music streaming services is based on percentages of revenue, so doubling all listening on a given platform would not change the payment results.

glenn mcdonald, Monday, 17 October 2022 15:25 (one year ago) link

Although if the total listener numbers doubled, presumably the ads would cost more to buy, so there would be more revenue to split.

Piven After Midnight (The Yellow Kid), Monday, 17 October 2022 16:43 (one year ago) link

I’m sure it does. Which in turn creates an interesting philosophical question: if you’re being nudged into not using a feature but still the retain the ability to use it with no significant difference in ease, do you still have a legitimate grievance?

― Alba, Monday, October 17, 2022 3:41 AM (six hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

its a smaller target with other clickable things around it. much easier when its just up there by itself. why add it back after two years then delete again so soon?

Spottie, Monday, 17 October 2022 17:36 (one year ago) link

They should have stopped "improving" the app years ago - the best thing ever on Spotify was the Blue Note app.

sometimes you have to drink to kill the paranoia (PBKR), Monday, 17 October 2022 17:54 (one year ago) link

Yeah, I miss that

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Tuesday, 18 October 2022 00:08 (one year ago) link

xp thanks, makes sense

corrs unplugged, Tuesday, 18 October 2022 06:14 (one year ago) link

i hate it when mummy and daddy fight

https://www.timetoplayfair.com/audiobooks/

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 26 October 2022 13:12 (one year ago) link

Glen, there are some pretty big mistakes on Golden Palominos tracks in the Spotify catalogue I thought I'd mention to you:

1) Cookout on both versions of the self-titled album and on The Celluloid Collection is actually Darklands from the record, A Dead Horse:

https://open.spotify.com/track/2o1SH4ILklYkxEkpvK8Nnk?si=74033515ec7f4f96🕸

2) On A Dead Horse (the 2001 issue, not the one from 1989) -- Angel of Death and Lucky are listed in the right order but the music is swapped (Lucky is supposed to be the bluesy one, AoD the ethereal tune).

https://open.spotify.com/track/0OSxKSy4OsHsJmQfcjIRpE?si=ecf3b0c808304bce🕸
https://open.spotify.com/track/1V58ggzs5vDXNXADuVrPkm?si=205e172cf1ec4bdc🕸

It sounds like Tidal has had some issues with their catalogue as well, so it's not just Spotify. But another ILM user said you might make these changes faster than the official channels -- and since the head of the band passed away last month, you may be getting more traffic than usual to them.


Passed along to the right team...


Update: #1 was fixed, but #2 is still wrong. So … progress!

Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 26 October 2022 13:20 (one year ago) link

Another long-standing error is Lady Leshurr being co-credited on Orbital's 'Blue' album - presumably some knock-on accident from tagging her on 'Wonky' title track?

nashwan, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 13:54 (one year ago) link

Just logged in to Spotify for the first time in a while and the fake collaborator songs seem to be even more common (except it's moved from fake Madonna collabs to fake, uh, Snail Mail?). Do the tagged collaborators actually get a piece of the streaming royalties?

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 4 November 2022 18:20 (one year ago) link

I was fooled by that today. Got a collab between Pan-American and Brian McBride (aka one of the guys in Stars of the Lid).

It was so specific, so esoteric, and so plausible, I was truly excited. My only red flag was that the track was only a little over a minute long which seems impossible for either of these artists. That was actually less believable than the beat-driven electronic sound.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Friday, 4 November 2022 21:28 (one year ago) link

Like who is going to the trouble to impersonate the less prolific half of SotL??

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Friday, 4 November 2022 21:29 (one year ago) link

haha that "pan-american" track was also in my release radar, not even an imitation

corrs unplugged, Sunday, 6 November 2022 17:04 (one year ago) link

the “radio” you get after playing “holy thursday” by david axelrod is siiiiick

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 18:53 (one year ago) link

Here's a feature I'd like/think would be useful: I've got so many playlists by now that I'd like to be able to click on a song and see which (if any) of my playlists said song features. I'm prepared for this to be a stupid idea and completely impossible technically, but does anyone else agree it'd be useful?

Shard-borne Beatles with their drowsy hums (Chinaski), Thursday, 24 November 2022 21:13 (one year ago) link

Definitely not impossible technically or even that difficult - using the developer API, it's really easy to search a user's playlists for a specific song. but would probably be too clunky and not useful enough to add to Spotify itself. Wondering if I have the time to knock out a quick app to do it...

Vinnie, Thursday, 24 November 2022 22:47 (one year ago) link

I'd use it!

Shard-borne Beatles with their drowsy hums (Chinaski), Friday, 25 November 2022 08:00 (one year ago) link

Me too. iTunes has had that function (from right-click options) since I can remember and it’s always slightly bugged me that Spotify doesn’t.

Alba, Friday, 25 November 2022 09:01 (one year ago) link

They're still cycling through different design features that detract from the way things work comfortably. I thought they'd tried several of these a year or so ago.
Wish I could set a number of favourite podcasts that would appear on the home page. & the amount of recommendations. They just reduced each of those to a handful.

Stevolende, Friday, 25 November 2022 10:25 (one year ago) link

I have it on good authority that I had Charli XCX's "Constant Repeat" on constant repeat this year.

maf you one two (maffew12), Wednesday, 30 November 2022 18:06 (one year ago) link

Is spotify down?

formerly abanana (dat), Wednesday, 30 November 2022 22:51 (one year ago) link

Here's a feature I'd like/think would be useful: I've got so many playlists by now that I'd like to be able to click on a song and see which (if any) of my playlists said song features. I'm prepared for this to be a stupid idea and completely impossible technically, but does anyone else agree it'd be useful?

― Shard-borne Beatles with their drowsy hums (Chinaski), Thursday, November 24, 2022 3:13 PM (six days ago) bookmarkflaglink

Not quite the same but reminds me of how Letterboxd lets you see Lists that a given film is on. You could imagine this having a filter for your playlists/public playlists.

Indexed, Wednesday, 30 November 2022 22:55 (one year ago) link

My Spotify Wrapped is broken

Crashes out of it every time after the 4th slide (total hours listened) :(

groovypanda, Thursday, 1 December 2022 07:54 (one year ago) link

Voidgaze.

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Thursday, 1 December 2022 07:57 (one year ago) link

well i just had the unfortunate discovery that my spouse's favorite spotify artist of the year was Kanye...

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Thursday, 1 December 2022 07:58 (one year ago) link

in their possible defense, they may have fallen asleep while having a track (or album or playlist) on a loop. it’s what accounted for my alleged number 1 and 2 songs of the year

big movers, hot steppers + long shaker intros (breastcrawl), Thursday, 1 December 2022 08:07 (one year ago) link

Posting "wow pretty problematic" under every single person's Spotify wrapped and then responding "it's not my job to educate you" when they ask what I mean by that.

— Rob Cassidy (@Cassidy_Rob) November 30, 2022

fwiw I can't seem to find my actual Wrapped summary. It gives me a playlist of most-played songs, but nothing else, no slide show. Is it hiding somewhere?

yeah my son ran into this!

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 1 December 2022 13:49 (one year ago) link

Same although I'm not too bothered as according to the playlist I only seriously engaged with three albums last year :/

Oh just had a banner pop up in the desktop app saying it's only available in the mobile app.

ledge, Thursday, 1 December 2022 13:56 (one year ago) link

Yeah, I get the same in the mobile app. Not that it matters, I know what I listened to this year anyway. But if yr gonna promise a personalized doodad, you should deliver.

Wow, my Your Missed Hits list is some hot garbage. I think there's a reason these hits were missed.

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 1 December 2022 16:28 (one year ago) link

yeah mine weren't even "bad" - just very aggressively MEH.

ミ💙🅟 🅛 🅤 🅡 🅜 🅑💙彡 (Austin), Thursday, 1 December 2022 16:47 (one year ago) link

I did Missed Hits, but not by personally picking songs, so I'm not offended if you don't like yours. I wouldn't have put "Hits" in the title if the presentation had been up to me, though.

glenn mcdonald, Thursday, 1 December 2022 18:04 (one year ago) link

can't find mine (found my 2020 one, it's decent)

my top song of 2022 is "So What" I feel very basic

corrs unplugged, Thursday, 1 December 2022 20:55 (one year ago) link

half of my “missed hits” were tracks I had actually played before

big movers, hot steppers + long shaker intros (breastcrawl), Thursday, 1 December 2022 23:55 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

cd glitches on spotify tracks: classic or dud?

i'd rather do music and chill tf out (Austin), Monday, 2 January 2023 00:12 (one year ago) link

Examples?

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Monday, 2 January 2023 02:32 (one year ago) link

(hoping this image works...)

https://i.imgur.com/AeqYA3k_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

why are the majority of artist bios like this? they just cut off.

i'd rather do music and chill tf out (Austin), Wednesday, 4 January 2023 02:11 (one year ago) link

Unless an artist contributes their own bio to Spotify, it's pulled from AllMusic. But presumably there is a character limit.

jaymc, Wednesday, 4 January 2023 02:31 (one year ago) link

If you touch the ellipsis at the end, the rest of the bio should come up.

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Wednesday, 4 January 2023 02:55 (one year ago) link

thank you, i thought that too but either i have impossible fat guy fingers or something's off because it doesn't expand.

it's not a super huge discrepancy. just... kind of disappointing the lack of accessible info/credits ob the platform.

i'd rather do music and chill tf out (Austin), Wednesday, 4 January 2023 03:12 (one year ago) link

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okay nvm, it's definitely my stubby fingers.

i'd rather do music and chill tf out (Austin), Wednesday, 4 January 2023 03:14 (one year ago) link

Another unintentionally glitchy album: Doris Monteiro (1974).

eatandoph (Neue Jesse Schule), Thursday, 5 January 2023 18:26 (one year ago) link

Been having a new problem during the past week. I'll be listening to a full album and then the app jumps to a song that's not in the album, but maybe Spotify thinks is similar.

For instance, last night I was listening to Dua Lipa's Future Nostalgia. After the song Pretty Please, it segued into Miley Cyrus (feat. Dua Lipa) song Prisoner. This song is featured on an expanded edition of Future Nostalgia (not the version I was listening to), but the one I got had the art for the Miley Cyrus album.

Then this morning, I put on Pink Floyd's Animals. After Pigs on the Wing (Part One), Spotify shifted to Strange Brew by Cream, a song that I can guarantee I've never listened to on the app.

This has happened one or two other times in the past week. Has anyone else experienced it? I'm wondering if there's a setting or something that I need to toggle.

peace, man, Thursday, 19 January 2023 12:30 (one year ago) link

there's the autoplay thing? first thing I turn off

corrs unplugged, Thursday, 19 January 2023 12:40 (one year ago) link

So it looks like Autoplay was turned on somehow (I didn't do it). Hopefully, that will solve it. In the past when I've had autoplay turned on, it would wait until the end of an album to start spewing recommendations at me. That was bad, but in these cases, it has changed to recommendations in the middle of albums, and I'm wondering if they can be brought before The Hague over this.

peace, man, Thursday, 19 January 2023 12:52 (one year ago) link

spotify is CONSTANTLY turning autoplay back on. very naughty stat juicing

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 19 January 2023 12:59 (one year ago) link


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