General 2022 MLB Postseason Thread

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I hate baseball

calstars, Sunday, 16 October 2022 00:30 (one year ago) link

These games have a be averaging four and half hours.

Bee OK, Sunday, 16 October 2022 00:33 (one year ago) link

Not every game is a grim 0-0 13-inning battle of attrition, and that's a good thing, but I love the few that are

Guayaquil (eephus!), Sunday, 16 October 2022 00:35 (one year ago) link

At least calstars can breathe again

Bee OK, Sunday, 16 October 2022 00:43 (one year ago) link

this is all fun and games until robbie ray is the only guy left in the seattle pen

mookieproof, Sunday, 16 October 2022 00:57 (one year ago) link

14th inning go fuck yourself

calstars, Sunday, 16 October 2022 00:58 (one year ago) link

Not complaining about length, just an observation. These games have been fun.

Bee OK, Sunday, 16 October 2022 01:01 (one year ago) link

Still happy there is no ghost runner in these playoffs

Bee OK, Sunday, 16 October 2022 01:15 (one year ago) link

If this goes to the 16th, I may bail. I can only invest so much time in a game not involving the Jays and not a WS game.

clemenza, Sunday, 16 October 2022 01:25 (one year ago) link

"First post season game to go into the 16th inning "

Bee OK, Sunday, 16 October 2022 01:28 (one year ago) link

Gets out of it

Bee OK, Sunday, 16 October 2022 01:41 (one year ago) link

This is insane.

clemenza, Sunday, 16 October 2022 01:58 (one year ago) link

altuve in this series: 0-for-16, 6 K, 1 BB

mookieproof, Sunday, 16 October 2022 01:59 (one year ago) link

JOE BUCK: Welcome to the top of the 47th
[Sun rises]
[Sun keeps getting bigger]
BUCK: yes
[World engulfed by flames]
BUCK: oh god yes

— Justin Klugh (@justin_klugh) October 28, 2015

Make it a double

Bee OK, Sunday, 16 October 2022 02:08 (one year ago) link

well at least it was an extremely mariners way for that to happen

, Sunday, 16 October 2022 02:39 (one year ago) link

Basically played the astros to a draw. Not bad

lmao fuck baseball

JoeStork, Sunday, 16 October 2022 02:55 (one year ago) link

Game one today was a tie. Game two was a 1-0 loss.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Sunday, 16 October 2022 02:56 (one year ago) link

That was incredible...I wanted Naylor to get the winning hit (Mississauga!), but he was the wrong guy, a long-swing power hitter. Needed one of those pesky Guardian hitters...five singles, unheard of today.

clemenza, Sunday, 16 October 2022 03:12 (one year ago) link

BASEBALL IS THE GREATEST GODDAMN SPORT IN THE WORLD

Mr. Snrub, Sunday, 16 October 2022 03:17 (one year ago) link

Clarke Schmidt almost made the greatest catch in postseason history pic.twitter.com/TkeXxeO9E1

— Grant Brisbee (@GrantBrisbee) October 16, 2022

mookieproof, Sunday, 16 October 2022 03:56 (one year ago) link

Braves losing certainly makes the Mets season seem more tolerable? Like both teams battled frantically all season to win the division, only to be chased away after 3/4 postseason games. There really is something about peaking at the right time.

Michael F Gill, Sunday, 16 October 2022 04:06 (one year ago) link

boone is getting absolutely buried for not bringing in clay holmes; if the yanks lose this series i think he’s toast

mookieproof, Sunday, 16 October 2022 04:38 (one year ago) link

Dodgers kind of blew the top of the seventh, bases loaded and only one run scored. Of course the Padres make them pay by coming back in the bottom of the inning.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Sunday, 16 October 2022 05:07 (one year ago) link

Wow

omar little, Sunday, 16 October 2022 05:57 (one year ago) link

Always a happy day

Bee OK, Sunday, 16 October 2022 05:57 (one year ago) link

Goose

Bee OK, Sunday, 16 October 2022 05:57 (one year ago) link

The goose is the new black cat

omar little, Sunday, 16 October 2022 05:58 (one year ago) link

Preparing for a lot of think pieces about how the regular season is too long and doesn't even matter that much now, why even win 100 games when your season can be over in 3 or 4 games, shouldn't MLB adopt a premier league style format, etc

Michael F Gill, Sunday, 16 October 2022 06:04 (one year ago) link

Eventually this Dodgers run will end and they'll be a third place team and someone will write a great book about how they blew it every year in the playoffs and were part of I don't know how many "biggest upsets ever" games and series.

I really don't think you can explain it through bad luck. They play poorly and make bad decisions. Like tonight, the Soto stolen base was because of horrible defense, they simply weren't concentrating out there. That cannot happen in that situation. And once the comeback was complete they looked lost at the plate, you could see they'd basically given up

NoTimeBeforeTime, Sunday, 16 October 2022 06:17 (one year ago) link

i was rooting for both the phillies and the padres but yeah i think when the 87 and 89 win teams make it to the LCS in a league with 3 100-win teams, that's a bad sign and something needs to change

, Sunday, 16 October 2022 06:40 (one year ago) link

Houston vs Seattle was 6:22

Bee OK, Sunday, 16 October 2022 07:09 (one year ago) link

Just checked out of curiosity -- WAS vs SF Game 2 NLDS, which was also decided by a HR in the 18th inning, lasted 6:23.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Sunday, 16 October 2022 07:19 (one year ago) link

holy shit guardians

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 16 October 2022 08:13 (one year ago) link

and holy shit HOU-SEA lol. that’s real baseball baby

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 16 October 2022 08:20 (one year ago) link

Didn't stick around for the Padres' comeback, but that's amazing. As much as I want to see Dusty Baker win one, Guardians-Padres would be something.

clemenza, Sunday, 16 October 2022 12:25 (one year ago) link

I was actually going to put up a poll the other day about whether baseball has a problem, but I stopped myself because the best teams (or close enough) won the WS in 2016/17/18 and--if you give it the same weight--2020. Not in 2019, and not in 2021. Still, didn't seem enough to diagnose a problem. But as you continue to add WC teams--and expanding the playoffs has been a matter of survival for baseball--you may be getting there.

clemenza, Sunday, 16 October 2022 12:31 (one year ago) link

And if you do get "there"--where it's just a free-for-all where anybody can and does win--for a lot of people, that's not a problem at all.

clemenza, Sunday, 16 October 2022 12:38 (one year ago) link

This is the weird shit we all signed up for imo

Karl Malone, Sunday, 16 October 2022 12:48 (one year ago) link

Idk if your team can’t beat a team in the playoffs that they may have beaten several times over the season, then stop whining imo. Team being drastically changed through injuries or something like that is one thing, but “it’s not fair that the best teams have to play the losers, and sometimes the losers win and that’s Bad for Baseball,” I can’t understand that at all.

The Dodgers not being able to overcome a team they beat 14-5 in the regular season is a problem for the Dodgers, not baseball. Just call it a choke and move on.

barry sito (gyac), Sunday, 16 October 2022 12:53 (one year ago) link

the playoff field should be selected by me, personally, each year

barring extreme circumstances, i can't really get behind third-place teams making the playoffs, so this year i'd have left out the rays and phillies

can't really support teams that finished 20+ games back in their division, so there go the padres. although maybe they get a one-time pass because matt holliday never touched home plate in 2007? seattle is perilously close to being nixed at 16 games behind the astros, but it had been 21 years so i'll let it slide

so in the NL i'd have gone straight to the DS with dodgers-cards and braves-mets. AL would have been more or less what actually happened, except we needn't have bothered with the cleveland-tampa series

check back with me next year for my absolutely correct selections

mookieproof, Sunday, 16 October 2022 13:00 (one year ago) link

That all seems reasonable but what about the Pirates

barry sito (gyac), Sunday, 16 October 2022 13:05 (one year ago) link

Pirates did sweep the dodgers this season!

Michael F Gill, Sunday, 16 October 2022 13:43 (one year ago) link

sorry for continuing to criticize a broadly unpopular change made before the season (expanding the playoffs) after the effect of that change is felt in a tangible way

if i'm going to argue about this on the internet for the umpteenth time then i guess it'll have to be established for the umpteenth time that playoffs in baseball are random and the results of individual series are a crapshoot

In the NFL, a “best-of-11” series is needed to match the NBA’s better team advances rate.

In the NHL, a “best-of-51” series is needed to match the NBA’s better team advances rate.

And in MLB, an astounding “best-of-75” series is needed to match the NBA’s better team advances rate.


three of the best teams winning three years in a row was the result of randomness, and worse teams winning in 2019 and 2021 was the result of randomness. it's randomness all the way down.

i personally think that mlb and other sports leagues have some sort of responsibility to corral the best teams (as established over a legitimate sample size) into a better position to win the postseason. other people don't, and that's fine. when my hapless and pathetic orioles do eventually win it again, if they ever do, i will enjoy it regardless but i'd still prefer to know that they did it as one of the best teams in the league and not because any team with 83 wins in the right circumstances can hot streak their way to infinity.

i'd prefer it if there were less teams. i was against expanding to 12. i'll continue to be against expanding to 14 next CBA and then 16 for the CBA after that. i'm aware that it's going to happen anyway, so i think that deeper handicaps are needed to not only ensure that the best regular season teams tend to advance, but that teams are never satisfied entering the season with a "just good enough" win projection, which is what will continue to happen as the playoffs expand without more handicapping. giving the top two records a bye and removing a round of randomness is a good start, but it's not enough. the cards should be stacked higher against the lowest seeds - if you want cinderella stories, make it an actual cinderella story

that's it for me, not going to reopen this thread today because i'm supposed to be fucking myself up at the renaissance faire and i'm not going to let my internet argument brain worms get the best of me, please enjoy your sunday god bless

, Sunday, 16 October 2022 13:57 (one year ago) link

personally, i root for my favorite team (the kansas city royals) to win the regular season, and the regular season performance is mostly how i remember the team. for example, the 2004/5 cardinals were the really, really good ones. the 2006 won the WS but were worse. it was a crapshoot. this year they forgot how to score runs in the wild card and left after 2 games. i'll be remembering the other 162 games instead. there were some classic ones in there.

i don't have a good idea on how to "fix" the postseason. i don't want the established best teams to win every time. i don't want the kind of mediocre-but-streaking-in-october teams to win every time, either. i am ok with how it is tbh

Karl Malone, Sunday, 16 October 2022 14:11 (one year ago) link

I was getting a little ahead of myself back there. The Guardians still need to beat the Yankees--forgot they're a day behind.

clemenza, Sunday, 16 October 2022 14:25 (one year ago) link

Posnanski sort of addresses all this today:

https://open.substack.com/pub/joeposnanski/p/are-you-entertained-yet?r=1jtu0&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email

The Guardians are so much fun. This team cannot hit a lick. I haven’t looked this up to verify, but I believe they set a major league record this year by finishing sixth in the league in runs scored despite the fact that Jose Ramirez was the only player on the team to get a hit all season.

clemenza, Sunday, 16 October 2022 14:29 (one year ago) link

even going back to single-division leagues playing each other in a 7-game WS is a crapshoot. i think you have to just see the postseason and WS as a bit of a circus and enjoy it for what pleasures it provides.

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 16 October 2022 14:30 (one year ago) link


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