A few weeks back I saw people on the Finchley Road central res with placards big on the 'stop killing our kids with your vaccines'. They are interchangeable with the '5G makes your brain shrink' and 'Wayfair pre-assembled furniture contains trafficked kids why else do you think they sell it for so much??!!' faithful.
― nashwan, Thursday, 13 October 2022 11:32 (one year ago) link
I'd guess the only people with skin in the anti-vaccine game now are natural healing / homeopathy types, who were banging on about it years ago anyway.
― pick the mouse that can reach all the cheese in the maze (Matt #2), Thursday, 13 October 2022 11:40 (one year ago) link
Oh, and crazy people (see: MIA)
― pick the mouse that can reach all the cheese in the maze (Matt #2), Thursday, 13 October 2022 11:41 (one year ago) link
MIA also has a new album & thus invested in getting headlines
― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Thursday, 13 October 2022 12:29 (one year ago) link
You would think the air would have gone out of "there's no such thing as bad publicity" a long time ago, but some people still believe it.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 13 October 2022 12:45 (one year ago) link
MIA was mentioned within the first ten posts of this thread and her twitter feed seems pretty consistent in terms of its derangement. I know there's a comfort in thinking everyone who spouts shitty stuff is doing it for clout but she seems like a true believer to me.
― Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 13 October 2022 13:08 (one year ago) link
oh no doubt shes a true believer but imho also savvy enough to know what buttons to push for extra attention, she even seems to have been laying off the vax stuff until recently
― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Thursday, 13 October 2022 13:31 (one year ago) link
Anti-vax rhetoric is still very prevalent in U.S. right-wing circles. One of the major current themes is that all the warnings about increased risk of heart attack and stroke in people who have had COVID is a cover story for the damage done by the vaccines. And hell Florida's surgeon general just threw fuel on that fire. The approximately 39 percent of people in my county who aren't vaccinated presumably buy into all of this.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 13 October 2022 13:35 (one year ago) link
Is there the same energy behind it? In the US it feel its been incorporated into general right-wing messaging. I'm not sure same is true in UK where it felt more like its own bubble, not quite as connected
― anvil, Thursday, 13 October 2022 13:51 (one year ago) link
I've been wondering if the reason we can't have decent health coverage in the United States is that we've been in love with snake oil since the old west, apparently. Something the about the frontier myth, finding that secret source of gold or something.
― bendy, Thursday, 13 October 2022 14:06 (one year ago) link
anti-Vax stuff seems to be growing in the US--lots of people who were seemingly sane are now blaming their health conditions on the vaccine
― “uhh”—like, this is an insane oatmeal raisin cookie “uhh” (President Keyes), Thursday, 13 October 2022 14:09 (one year ago) link
This is reaching people who weren't covidiots or anti-vaccine originally? Thats interesting, suggests messaging is coming from elsewhere if they were (presumably?) immune to it before?
― anvil, Thursday, 13 October 2022 14:18 (one year ago) link
Where are you seeing this, Keyes?
― Linkin Bio (morrisp), Thursday, 13 October 2022 14:35 (one year ago) link
imo It's all Facebook--lots of anecdotes about how "my daughter was perfectly healthy and now she has a heart murmur" and blaming the vaccine. Though usually it turns out the daughter also had Covid twice. My in-laws don't want to get the booster because they think the last shots gave them conditions.
― “uhh”—like, this is an insane oatmeal raisin cookie “uhh” (President Keyes), Thursday, 13 October 2022 14:38 (one year ago) link
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said on Thursday that about 264.6 million people had received at least one dose of a Covid-19 vaccine, including about 225.9 million people who had been fully vaccinated by the Johnson & Johnson single-dose vaccine or the two-dose series made by Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna.
The C.D.C. also reported that about 110.6 million fully vaccinated people have received an additional vaccine dose or a booster dose, and that approximately 11.5 million had gotten the updated bivalent booster shot, the highest level of protection against the virus.
11.5 million for the new booster is insanely low
― “uhh”—like, this is an insane oatmeal raisin cookie “uhh” (President Keyes), Thursday, 13 October 2022 14:42 (one year ago) link
I have a cousin who is getting deeper into this shit all the time. Every day it's some new made-up bullshit about how 95% of people have "blood abnormalities" after getting the vaccine, or whatever.
I sometimes feel like his basic problem is that he doesn't have the instinct to just Google stuff before posting. Look to see if there's any basis for it. He'll just accept anything that fits his narrative.
― jmm, Thursday, 13 October 2022 14:52 (one year ago) link
ime some of these people will indeed Google stuff, they'll just spend hours doing so until they find any random reddit post or blog comment that supports their batshittery
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 13 October 2022 14:54 (one year ago) link
it's thriving here in Canada, or at least in Alberta: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/alberta-blood-transfusions-resistance-covid-1.6613841https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/new-alberta-premier-says-unvaccinated-most-discriminated-against-group-after-swearing-in-1.6612767
Smith has been deeply critical of the Kenney government's use of public health restrictions during the COVID-19 pandemic. She has pledged to amend the Alberta Human Rights Act to add vaccination status as a grounds subject to protection from discrimination."They have been the most discriminated against group that I've ever witnessed in my lifetime," Smith said of unvaccinated Canadians at the news conference.
"They have been the most discriminated against group that I've ever witnessed in my lifetime," Smith said of unvaccinated Canadians at the news conference.
― rob, Thursday, 13 October 2022 15:01 (one year ago) link
Uptake in the new booster is very low so far, but I wouldn’t assume that corresponds directly with skepticism about vaccine safety. I think it’s not easy motivating people to keep getting boosters for a number of reasons
― Linkin Bio (morrisp), Thursday, 13 October 2022 15:10 (one year ago) link
yeah I don't think it has anything to do with safety concerns, if anything the anti-vaxx position is even more ridiculous now that billions of people have gotten it. I think it probably has more do to with Covid being out of the headlines and life more or less returning to normal, for better or worse. I didn't even know there was a booster that was formulated for Omicron that was available yet. to me its like getting an oil change. just something to do some day, when you get around to it, etc. I know this attitude is super dumb of course. and I did wind up getting it last week, but only because they were giving out free shots at work :)
― frogbs, Thursday, 13 October 2022 15:16 (one year ago) link
wife & i had covid last month & were advised to wait 3 months before getting the booster, i wonder if theres a statistically significant % of people who have had recent infections in the same boat, will be interesting to see if theres a big bump over the next couple months
― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Thursday, 13 October 2022 15:17 (one year ago) link
^^
I know about 5-6 people that are stuck in that exact waiting period now. But then I've also heard two coworkers in the last week comment that they knew nothing about the new boosters being available!
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 13 October 2022 15:18 (one year ago) link
Heckuva job, Globalist puppet masters!
― “uhh”—like, this is an insane oatmeal raisin cookie “uhh” (President Keyes), Thursday, 13 October 2022 15:20 (one year ago) link
Most disappointing point was that these two were both totally on board with getting them, they just hadn't known they were out!
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 13 October 2022 15:22 (one year ago) link
tbh i think i only learned about it during covid-related googling when i was sick, i can definitely see how well-meaning people who dont read covid news everyday could have missed it
― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Thursday, 13 October 2022 15:23 (one year ago) link
Absolutely, but it speaks to the absolute failure of messaging.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 13 October 2022 15:24 (one year ago) link
for sure
― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Thursday, 13 October 2022 15:25 (one year ago) link
Less than FOUR percent of eligible recipients have gotten the fourth booster. Granted a lot of people have gotten COVID recently and may be waiting out the recommended three months before getting it, but still that's incredibly dismal.
Virtually every Walgreen's in NYC now seems to have a booster shot available (though if you want to stick with the series you're on, they generally seem to carry only Pfizer or Moderna and not both).
― birdistheword, Thursday, 13 October 2022 15:30 (one year ago) link
We made an appointment for our kid to get the just-approved pediatric booster next week but I'm sure the percentage of boosted kids in his school will be minimal two months from now.
― “uhh”—like, this is an insane oatmeal raisin cookie “uhh” (President Keyes), Thursday, 13 October 2022 15:30 (one year ago) link
In some countries the booster is only available to certain age groups (or certain conditions) so there's definitely less of a push (which means less to react to or rebel against!)
― anvil, Thursday, 13 October 2022 15:34 (one year ago) link
MIA being anti establishment makes me laugh i was her tenant in ldn for years we had multiple oustanding repairs and when we left she tried to take us for thousands. Whenever i see her doing this it makes me laugh— rick (@beard4toon) October 13, 2022
― but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 13 October 2022 16:37 (one year ago) link
― Linkin Bio (morrisp), Thursday, October 13, 2022 11:10 AM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
I'm getting it as soon as I can, but I've had Covid too recently to get one so soon, according to my doctor. And yeah, oil change is a good comparison.
I think it probably has more do to with Covid being out of the headlines and life more or less returning to normal, for better or worse.
this, imo, is a much bigger problem.
― Paul Ponzi, Thursday, 13 October 2022 17:29 (one year ago) link
I only knew about the new boosters being available because of ILX! Maybe we should replace the CDC.
― broccoli rabe thomas (the table is the table), Friday, 14 October 2022 11:14 (one year ago) link
I feel like the booster has been pretty prominent in the headlines, though… maybe that’s a misconception on my part. For you folks who were unaware, are there particular news sources you glance at on a semi-regular basis?
― Linkin Bio (morrisp), Friday, 14 October 2022 14:33 (one year ago) link
My brother who works for the NIH and my employer have been my news sources, so that won't work for anybiody else.
― Lord Pickles (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 14 October 2022 15:06 (one year ago) link
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― broccoli rabe thomas (the table is the table), Friday, 14 October 2022 20:01 (one year ago) link
MIA is quoted in the Guardian as 'knowing three people who died from the vaccine' (with the Guardian adding that there are fifteen known vaccine-based deaths total in the UK). Just surprised she didn't go with 'doctors have been paid to put Covid as cause of death'.
― nashwan, Friday, 14 October 2022 21:58 (one year ago) link
"11.5 million for the new booster is insanely low"
it is, but it's also 1) still relatively new, so if you got boosted again in the summer I don't know that you can get it yet (ie: I got boosted on July 31st, and it seems too soon? i'll probably get it in november) and 2) hard to get, it seems. Scheduling these for my kid was fucking painful, had to get it 25 miles away scheduled a week out.
― akm, Saturday, 15 October 2022 20:43 (one year ago) link
In Maryland and Virginia you can get the new boosters two months after the last booster.
― Lord Pickles (Boring, Maryland), Saturday, 15 October 2022 20:46 (one year ago) link
So there are 30 thousand doses of the latest vaccine being administered per day in the US. At that rate we could expect everyone in the population to have this dose in about 29 years.
― “uhh”—like, this is an insane oatmeal raisin cookie “uhh” (President Keyes), Sunday, 16 October 2022 02:14 (one year ago) link
also, it's about to no longer be free in the US
― akm, Sunday, 16 October 2022 02:19 (one year ago) link
The public health emergency declaration (which makes vaccines, testing, and treatments free) was just extended another 90 days by Biden. The problem is that Republicans in Congress are refusing to authorize funding for additional rounds of boosters after this one (170 million doses have been purchased), more tests in the mail (funds for those have run out), etc.
― Reese's Pisces Iscariot (morrisp), Sunday, 16 October 2022 02:30 (one year ago) link
(This is against the backdrop of the new BQ.1 subvariants which may have potential to fuel a winter surge, and which the reformulated boosters are still expected to be effective against… as BQ is some kind of offshoot of BA.5.)
― Reese's Pisces Iscariot (morrisp), Sunday, 16 October 2022 03:06 (one year ago) link
Isn't there at least one other thread this conversation could be taking place on?
― Fronted by a bearded Phil Collins (Tom D.), Sunday, 16 October 2022 08:48 (one year ago) link
Ice Cube Confirms He Lost $9M Film Role Over COVID-19 Vaccine: “Fuck That Jab”
THR summary / youtube panel show thing
― Vance Vance Devolution (sic), Wednesday, 23 November 2022 09:23 (one year ago) link
Cube tweeted some Q anon bullshit a couple of times
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 23 November 2022 15:48 (one year ago) link
He's posted some Q adjacent stuff too― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 29 October 2021 23:39 (one year ago)
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 29 October 2021 23:39 (one year ago)
― Vance Vance Devolution (sic), Wednesday, 23 November 2022 16:51 (one year ago) link
After watching Roland Gift on Jools Holland last night found his Twitter feed, oh boy.
― Dan Worsley, Sunday, 1 January 2023 09:04 (one year ago) link
A noted twat at the best of times
― this country's had enough of exports (Matt #2), Sunday, 1 January 2023 10:44 (one year ago) link
what a card
― calzino, Sunday, 1 January 2023 13:41 (one year ago) link