Alex Jones

if only we had taken the "billionaires shouldn't exist" argument more seriously!

*shakes hand at heavens, rends garments*

When this is all ya got

Alex Jones after his billion dollar damages verdict: "They want to scare us away from question Uvalde or Parkland. We're not going away. We're not going to stop."

He's now selling "vitamineral fusion" from the InfoWars store.

— Ben Collins (@oneunderscore__) October 12, 2022

they're suppositories, pack of 40 in a bottle for $4,000 each

which supplements can help me increase the intensity of the already intense tan on my balls?

Mmm...glorious.

If Alex jones pays for lying shouldn’t every celebrity pushing vaccines pay too ?

— M.I.A. (@MIAuniverse) October 12, 2022

M.I.A. sounds about as sharp as Jones' lawyers.

Ew. I haven't been keeping up with her, didn't realize she was a straight up ding-dong nowadays.

I’ll feel better when Jones is completely destitute.

But this feels pretty good.

Paper planes can’t melt steel beams.

She's supposedly also a born again Christian now

jfc @ mia

All we need now is for B.O.B. to become a Flat Earther

Oh wait

I love a lot of her shit, but MIA has always been hella dumb. Don’t think I’ve read/seen an interview with her that didn’t deflate what she seemed to be doing artistically.

jeez, mia. i don't have a "never have heroes" policy, i stick with "assume anyone you don't know is a complete asshole or box of rocks." so many worthless people also overcome injustice and hardship. reality is just that way i guess.

still, if what i heard about this Jones award being non-dischargeable in BK comes true-- HAHAHAHA LOOOOOLLLL YES! YES! YES YES YES!1!!!1111!!! you can live on thiel's yacht somewhere, harvesting the blood of abducted children to keep him young.

NB I DO NOT SUSPECT THIEL OF ABDUCTING CHILDREN FOR BLOOD. no matter what mia might have to say about the matter.

Actual Florida elected official right here. There is literally nobody and nothing the right won't embrace if it's something that offends liberals.

Alex Jones should be appointed as next President of the University of Florida—NOT Ben Sasse

— Rep. Anthony Sabatini (@AnthonySabatini) October 12, 2022

ok but that would actually be pretty funny

which is funny as in political attack ads during primary, Sabatini was basically called a RINO

I want someone to ask Sabatini, on camera and totally straight-faced, "Why?" Let him explain why he thinks Alex Jones would make a good university president. Sort of like when someone tells a racist joke in your presence, you can just look at them and say, "I don't get it. Explain it to me."

i think this is just his way of saying he's an FSU fan

I've never heard of Sabatini, but his track record of dead/failed/vetoed bills is impressive. Just about the only he managed to get passed was an act requiring the Governor to proclaim November 7 of each year as "Victims of Communism Day."

Hard for me to take any pride in being Italian after the last election in Italy, and Sabatini/DeSantis

Early life and education
Sabatini was born in Smithtown, New York, in 1988 and moved with his family to Florida the following year. In a high school photo, Sabatini and a friend were pictured in blackface. In his freshman year of college, he was photographed in brownface. He earned bachelor's degrees in philosophy and history from the University of Florida in 2012 and a Juris Doctor from the University of Florida Fredric G. Levin College of Law in 2017.

The second and third sentences are from Gertrude Stein.

2008 financial crash

— M.I.A. (@MIAuniverse) October 13, 2022

a close friend from high school has an exceedingly bad case of brain worms, and Sabatini is her guy. She lives in Florida and has brought him to speak at antivax rallies she's organized and stuff. I long ago stopped trying to reason with her and just cut her out of my life, but the temptation rose up fresh with that Alex Jones tweet. I know whatever transpired between us would be ineffective and make me see red so not gonna do it, but jesus

I've heard so many similar stories of people becoming estranged from friends, or even family members, who fall down the rabbit hole of these mass delusions. It's very sad.

we def live in an environment in which we believe "minds don't get changed." i'm quite solid on that too. but people DO "give up."

and later they sometimes change their minds with a lot of time and enough experience. often, for the latter? not really-- when given hope for their delusions, they right back on their shit.

focus on being being relentless, just, and giving them enough hopelessness, sense of (minimal) security, and retreat space to fucking GIVE. UP. ain't saying they deserve security and space, but seems like how it goes?

One more for the grist mill

MIA being anti establishment makes me laugh i was her tenant in ldn for years we had multiple oustanding repairs and when we left she tried to take us for thousands. Whenever i see her doing this it makes me laugh

— rick (@beard4toon) October 13, 2022

Kaya My Landlord

oops

Kala My Landlord obv

you owe the full deposit
— bob marley

To be fair she literally warned that all she wants to do is take your money.

So this dipshit went right back on InfoWars today to.... mock the victims' parents? Fuck this soulless parasite.

The ALAB series on Alex Jones is p good so far.

https://www.alabseries.com/episodes/alex-jonesminiseries-1

And for a podcast it's very well organised (I don't do podcasts but every now and then if the topic engages me I will give it a go and hate it, not the case this time).

- Didn't know his background but the level of invention in your history is something that seems quite deeply American.

- I really loved the first couple of series of the X-Files and this is kinda how I took what I heard of Jones. Just a 'wacko' full of fun conspiracy theories.

- Fun is the word and it's good that, even at this point, they acknowledge what a good broadcaster he was. He did something that was worth a listen.

- I didn't know he was talking about Bin Laden before 9/11 but I'm not sure how impressed I should be. I think if you kept up your knowledge about who American services were funding at one point, or certain operations (basically reading the fine print) then sooner or later you get onto something big.

Anyway I am still on that EP. Would've liked them to go more into Waco and the Oklahoma bombings, and how it might have been big events for the likes of Jones.

I really loved the first couple of series of the X-Files and this is kinda how I took what I heard of Jones. Just a 'wacko' full of fun conspiracy theories.

Been thinking a lot about how back in the 90's for me conspiracy thinking was fun shit like Bigfoot or aliens, coupled with a sort of laudatory skepticism of govt institutions. That world is long gone though and sadly even the most fun conspiracy theories seem to go back to racism if you dig deep enough into them.

The ep was good, a lot of stuff I didn’t know about as I’ve never really followed Jones. Was he really a “liberal darling” during the bush era? The ALAB hosts are otm that when Glenn says says this he is talking about Glenn but then they seem to agree that this actually applies to AJ. I’m sure his audience included lefter leaning burnout types back then but feel like “liberal darling” implies more than that

i felt they were saying more that yes, anti-bush types certainly sat back and enjoyed when jones was excoriating bush and he had chaos-clown's licence (despite being a hilarious nutjob) but no he was never actually a "liberal darling" (= glenn's claim, which they are repudiating)

albeit repudiating more by implication than direct statement

Yeah Jones was still a fringe figure, hardly Jon Stewart-level.

Been thinking a lot about how back in the 90's for me conspiracy thinking was fun shit like Bigfoot or aliens, coupled with a sort of laudatory skepticism of govt institutions

yeah i think about this a lot too, there was so much stuff in the 90s depicting conspiracy theories as a fun oddball personality quirk, generally harmless and often funny. whereas nowadays if a stranger starts telling me JFK is still alive or that the president is secretly an alien i get legit worried for my safety and try to get away as fast as possible. things like X Files and Slacker definitely hit differently for me now in that sense

Dale was always the most fun character on King of the Hill

beliefs mark lane probably would NOT have endorsed

(i) jfk's head just did that by itself
(ii) AND HE SURVIVED

JFK was dyed Black and sent to a mental health institute with Elvis. Ffs has nobody seen that documentary Bubba Ho-Tep

Been thinking a lot about how back in the 90's for me conspiracy thinking was fun shit like Bigfoot or aliens, coupled with a sort of laudatory skepticism of govt institutions

Absolutely. When I rewatched X-Files last year, I supplemented it with ’90s episodes of Art Bell. It was very entertaining, but I refrained from googling the guests for fear of finding out they’ve moved on from believing in the Philadelphia Experiment and energy auras to MAGA shit. While I’m sure some of the guests were right-wing at the time, the show/theories always came across as apolitical in its kookiness.

There’s obviously plenty of leftists still wary/against the government (with good reason), but it does seem that being anti-government has become a right-wing signifier. My partner (who’d never seen the X-Files) raised an eyebrow sometimes because the show seemed to vaguely right-wing, though that stuff really came from post-Watergate/counterculture skepticism. It certainly was a bit jarring to watch it now and realize that the main villain in the show was "the deep state", though one made up of bipartisan Cold Warriors rather than evil Dems.

Mark Fenster’s Conspiracy Theories: Secrecy and Power in American Culture does a great job talking about X-Files and how Mulder pretty much was an investigator of this stuff not for emancipatory reasons, but for selfish ones. He also can’t just be an investigator about, he also has to write about it. There’s a compulsion inherent in the culture that you both consume and produce content about it, which is why you got so many blogs and zines and YouTube channels breathlessly recounting each other’s findings.

Also how the very 90s naïve idea that all that would be required to be justice or right a wrong would be to pull the mask away and show who the wrongdoer really was. Scooby Doo logic, and you can see how it still applies today as a LOT of people have never really be given a correct idea of what power is, how it works, and who actually holds it.

back in the 90's for me conspiracy thinking was fun shit

I used to work with a guy who was convinced that the main reason Hitler invaded Russia was for their hemp, he knew there was no chance of winning the war without that sweet, sweet soviet hemp

He was also a big Chomsky fan, and tried to convince me that all the major networks conspired to keep Chomsky off the airwaves because he spoke the unvarnished TRUTH, rather than him being a boring old blowhard

Funny that it never occurs to Mulder to tell the world about all the mutants, psychic killers etc. he encountered—he only cared about proving the existence of aliens, even though more people were killed throughout the series by the Monster of the Week than alien bounty hunters.