heat sat all their real players tonight vs memphis so duncan robinson had 29 on 7-11 shooting, 5-7 from three. made a few crazy ones. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Sqb7bA2M9Ei think perceptions of the down turn in his play have become exaggerated and i wouldn’t be surprised if he had a bit of a bounce back season
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 8 October 2022 06:56 (one year ago) link
13-8-3 with 3 blocks and a steal for jovic. his three point shot is starting to intrigue me, it’s plug and play in the heat’s system if he can hit some of these shots in real games https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHjK83yT2rk
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 8 October 2022 07:03 (one year ago) link
Declining perception of Robinson seemed as much influenced by his falling out of favor with Spo as it did his actual play. Iirc he was benched in the playoffs beyond just playing the matchups no? If he gets minutes I suspect you’re right on the bounce back
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Sunday, 9 October 2022 14:54 (one year ago) link
Oof very sorry. I blame Zing as always
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Sunday, 9 October 2022 14:55 (one year ago) link
i mean his 3pt% last three years was 45, 41, 37, you need better than 37 from a pure hoister, if you can hit 45 on ten attempts a game youre really valuable but its really hard to do that almost no one has been able to sustain that sort of shooting theres kyle korver not sure who else
― lag∞n, Sunday, 9 October 2022 15:07 (one year ago) link
even at 40% hes not worth that big contract, i think generally you just dont want to pay guys like that big money theres just too much variance in high end shooting numbers, like bertans got that bigish contract and he wasnt putting up nearly the numbers that robinson was now hes a bench rando getting paid like a quality starter, and then theres the playoff matchup situation to worry about if he cant hold up on d
― lag∞n, Sunday, 9 October 2022 15:13 (one year ago) link
Sure but whether or not he’s overpaid is a totally different question
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Sunday, 9 October 2022 15:29 (one year ago) link
its connected, basically hes playing like a bench guy so hes being played like a bench guy
― lag∞n, Sunday, 9 October 2022 15:49 (one year ago) link
his play was up and down for a lot of the year, he had a stretch in the regular season where he was barely getting off the bench. to what extent you can use him in the playoffs is a separate conversation but i think he can still be a good regular season player. he lost his confidence last year but he’s hunting for shots in the preseason.not sure he’ll ever shoot above 40% again bcuz almost all his threes are high difficulty, he doesn’t get many clean catch and shoot looks anymore. but if he can get back up to 38% or so at his volume he’ll be a good player again
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 9 October 2022 23:38 (one year ago) link
heat put UDFA jamal cain on a two way after averaging 17/8 in the preseason
Cain is in the top 10 in preseason wins above replacement player so far by my metric. https://t.co/Y31Rc3HXiv— Kevin Pelton (@kpelton) October 9, 2022
skinny but long athletic wing type. he's shot it well in the preseason.
15-11 and 5 steals vs brooklyn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NW5rOlXSVZA
― J0rdan S., Monday, 10 October 2022 04:16 (one year ago) link
this team is desperately in need of a 4 who can play small ball 5. bam's +20 to dedmon's -18 was the story of the celtics game. dedmon gives them decent back up 5 mins on most nights but he can't play vs a team like boston.
caleb martin is really more like a 2 to me than a 4, he has a wing skill set but is so skinny that he can't credibly hold up in that role. they tried a super small line up at the end of the third last night w/ butler at 5 and haywood highsmith on the floor to go w/ more wings but highsmith doesn't look ready for primetime and spo went away from that pretty quickly. jovic is being groomed for the small ball 5 role based on how they used him in the preseason but understandable that spo doesn't trust him yet vs a team like boston.
i wonder if they make a move for jae crowder fairly soon. i think there's a hard ceiling on his ability as you get deeper into the playoffs but he seems like a fairly logical stop gap option at the 4 until they can figure out a more significant move closer to the deadline. it would be a seamless fit given their history and there's also the connection between james jones and the heat front office, it just feels like a really obvious move for both sides if the suns are still intent on moving crowder. also wonder if they look at olynyk tho not sure if there's any working relationship between the ainge and reilly front offices.
the defense has been pretty poor overall in both two games, they're just very small. you could see last night vs boston that they were double teaming a lot and bleeding threes as a result, especially in the corners. will be interesting to see how they match up vs toronto the next two games. i'm curious if the heat look more comfortable or if toronto's size on the wing really strains the heat's roster. i'm leaning more towards the latter
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 22 October 2022 19:00 (one year ago) link
on the bright side, the starting 5 played at a high level last night when bam was on the floor. lowry looked way better, his shooting especially off the dribble from three is much needed. but it's hard to know how often he can get there. gabe vincent looks like one of the better back up 1s in the league but this team is going to need a good season from lowry to stay out of the play in in all likelihood.
herro has also looked even better than last year. 24-6-2 on 50/42/85 shooting in two games so far. he has improved his ability to finish at the rim especially through contact in each season and looks physically stronger again this year in his upper body. he's showing a devin booker like skillset as a scoring guard at all three levels of the court. lengthier defenders can still give him trouble but his shooting ability, creativity, and skill as a scorer really plays in the modern game.
haven't seen a finish like this from him previously
Tyler Herro is special. ⭐️ pic.twitter.com/sTaTsAD0r3— Hoop Central (@TheHoopCentral) October 20, 2022
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 22 October 2022 19:12 (one year ago) link
yeah the dropoff from bam to dedmon was rough for them last night, they shd get myles turner
― lag∞n, Saturday, 22 October 2022 19:22 (one year ago) link
not getting much attention nationally but oladipo has tendinitis in his other knee and hasn’t played this year and didn’t travel with the heat out west
Victor Oladipo isn't traveling to Portland, Golden State and Sacramento, meaning the chronic condition that has developed in his non surgically repaired knee will sideline him at least the first 7 games this season.— Barry Jackson (@flasportsbuzz) October 25, 2022
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 25 October 2022 17:03 (one year ago) link
sad
― Spottie, Tuesday, 25 October 2022 17:23 (one year ago) link
nice blowout win in portland last night. the game shifted when they put jovic at the 5 w/ butler and three other shooters. jovic was actually quite bad (2 points, 5 fouls in 14 minutes) but his presence on the floor opened the offense up. the heat look like how the heat are supposed to look when bam is off the floor with jovic out there.
elsewhere, caleb martin was +19, duncan robinson was +12 and max strus was +24. teams like portland that are/want to play small are going to be great match ups for the heat. if two of martin/strus/robinson can credibly play the 3 and 4 at the same time (w/ herro on the floor too) the heat are gonna score a ton of points on you and will be able to do enough on defense w/ butler & bam around to win most games. the issue is against teams like boston, milwaukee & philly who have the size to punish those guys. martin in particular was awesome (16-8-3 and 4 steals), portland just has no one on their roster who could make him pay for being a 200 pound PF.
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 27 October 2022 16:08 (one year ago) link
17-2-6 on 5-7 shooting from three for lowry last night. he seems to have righted himself. they used him a lot off the ball, only one of his 8 shots was a two. it feels like a viable path forward w/ him on the floor if he can shoot ~38% from three. the offense can be run thru herro, bam, and butler but they need lowry to essentially be a 3 and D guard. he's shot 11-21 from three in three games (wins over toronto and portland, competitive loss to boston) and 2-15 from three in two other games (losses to toronto and chicago). feels like that correlation is gonna stick for most of the year because if he isn't hitting threes it's going to be tough for him to make an impact offensively on a lot of nights and they need him out there
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 27 October 2022 16:16 (one year ago) link
4-1 over their last five after the nice win in boston last night. they’re healthy for the time being now for the first time in weeks and it’s right as the schedule gets a little soft. it feels like if they can make a run over the next 3-4 weeks they can put themselves in solid position for a 4-5 seed. their schedule to finish out the calendar year…@ grizzliespistonsclippersspurs@ pacers@ thunder@ rockets@ spurs (mexico city)bullspacerswolveslakers@ nuggets@ jazzif they can go say 10-4 over that stretch they’d get to 5 games above .500 which would prob give them a little breathing room ahead of the play in race. if they can make that push the formula appears as if it will be pretty uncomplicated: their highest paid players playing very well. bam has averaged 27-9-3 over the last 5 including games of 38 and 32 with butler out. herro put up an efficient 48-11-12 while shooting 8-16 from three on some pretty difficult ones in the two games vs boston. lowry has had some great games the last few weeks more or less carrying the team w/ a lot of guys hurt tho you do have to wonder about the wear and tear on his body. and of course jimmy comes back last night with a 25-15 and some crazy shotmaking to beat boston. the other development is haywood highsmith who i’ve never particularly been a fan of… but he was a team leading +12 vs boston last night & was noticeable for his individual defense. he’s one of the league leaders this year in individual field goal percentage against & this team has desperately needed another wing defender so this is worth monitoring. his offense is still in utero to be polite but he’s gonna see the floor playing the 3-4 swing spot and even some small ball 5. the rotation feels more complete with a player like that out there tho it still ultimately feels like there are gonna be multiple trades swung before the deadline to bring in new bodies for the playoffs.one of the bigger variables here & with basically every team in the east outside milwaukee, boston & cleveand is how the top 3 shakes out. there will prob be a lot of jockeying around the standings hunting for match ups depending on team preference… i think if you’re the heat you’d rather see boston in round 2 than milwaukee, so maybe you’re pushing for the 4-5 if boston is gonna be the 1 or taking the 6 if the they’re gonna be in the 2-3 spots
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 3 December 2022 21:20 (one year ago) link
bam, herro and lowry have looked so good. and of course jimmy. he wants that ring. who am i to say he shouldn’t get it?feel like they need more from vincent and strushighsmith was very impressive in game 1 against boston, a non-factor in game 2 though it seems he did rebound the ball pretty well
― Tracer Hand, Saturday, 3 December 2022 23:47 (one year ago) link
herro averaged 24-6-5 on 47/42/94 shooting in the month of december. included games of 34, 35, 41, 28, and 29. he is playing like a $30 million per year type of player.
he showed the full skillset last night in utah... hitting pull up threes, scoring from mid range off the pick and roll using pull up jumpers and floaters, and then athleticism at the rim w/ several finishes on the fast break. he also got to the line 7 times and was the heat's leading rebounder with 9.
when he's clicking like this he's a very fun player to watch. he's so fundamentally sound, his footwork is pristine and his jumper always looks good. a three level scorer w/ creativity to his game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfWZqE-Jjuw
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 1 January 2023 19:46 (one year ago) link
26-10-5 on 9-18 shooting, 4-9 from three two nights ago in denver. the combo of the pull up game from three and mid range plus the ability to make those floater shots is a really nice combo. and showing some ability to find open shooters as a ball handler https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8DSPmq5vnE
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 1 January 2023 20:03 (one year ago) link
the heat feel like a different team when oladipo is out there and having a positive night on offense. the difference it makes for them to have a guard who is a plus defender and who can make some plays on his own w/ the ball changes the complexion of their line ups. of course the offense comes and goes -- to put it politely -- but when he's contributing on that side of the floor putting him out there w/ herro, bam and butler + any of their other guys has felt like their strongest line up. he's much more dynamic athletically and as a playmaker on both ends than either lowry or gabe vincent. his ability to cause turnovers and finish on the fastbreak is major for them given the state of their half court offense.
last two games for victor are 15-5-4 on 6-11 shooting vs the clippers and 23-5-5 on 7-15 shooting vs utah. just massive contributions for where this team is at. of course, in the previous three games he had 16 points combined on 5-20 shooting and 1-9 from three. nobody will guard him in the playoffs but he proved his value in the boston series last year. it's just gonna be a really tricky balancing act for them trying to squeeze real games out of him in the regular season and keeping him healthy enough to try and contribute for two rounds in the playoffs. they didn't need him at all in the regular season last year but that just doesn't appear to be the case this season
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 3 January 2023 16:34 (one year ago) link
another awesome herro game last night putting up 23-7-3 on 7-15 shooting, 5-9 from three. he's up to 8.5 3PA per game this season after being at 6.7 last year and 5.5 the year before. in the month of december that was up to 9.9 3PA per game and obv he put up another 9 last night. if he shoots at that volume above 40% w/ his ability to shoot off the dribble, catch and shoot, on the move etc he becomes one of the most dangerous three point shooters in the league & it kinda changes things for him and this offense altogether. it almost moves him more into a klay thompson kinda realm offensively w/ a bit more ability off the dribble
last year he shot 60% of the time from 2 and and 40% of the time from three. this year it's 49% from two and 51% from three. a huge and very effective change in shot diet for him and that will prob keep widening. on top of that his 2 pt% is actually up this year to 51% from 48% last year. he's traded a lot of his tougher mid range shots for threes (and is also going to the basket a bit less) and the result is a career high 59% true shooting (last year he was at 56%)
just some high level three point shooting in this clip in terms of off the dribble as a ball handler as well as some tough catch and shoot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSoFNfG-dKc
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 3 January 2023 18:15 (one year ago) link
Also:Over the last 11 games that the Heat have gone 8-3, Miami has a 115 offensive rating and 106 defensive rating when Tyler Herro and Bam Adebayo are on the floor together You add Victor Oladipo to those two, Miami has a 119 offensive rating and 104 defensive ratingInsane— Brady Hawk (@BradyHawk305) January 3, 2023
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 3 January 2023 18:16 (one year ago) link
i really like the heati like the bucks tooand the celticsi’m conflicted
― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 3 January 2023 19:50 (one year ago) link
i mean don’t get it twisted i’m a boston fan but i feel likei feel like i know these guys
― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 3 January 2023 20:11 (one year ago) link
hows this not a foul wow
Wow. Jimmy Butler misses at the buzzer. No foul call. Game over. Nets beat Heat 102-101. pic.twitter.com/krtyZCEnRb— Will Manso (@WillManso) January 9, 2023
― im a beacon of light (Spottie), Monday, 9 January 2023 20:29 (one year ago) link
two time champ norris cole courtside tonight
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 9 February 2023 03:30 (one year ago) link
bam went 14-14 from the free throw line tonight
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 9 February 2023 03:31 (one year ago) link
norris cole is a true heat legend salute
― k3vin k., Thursday, 9 February 2023 03:51 (one year ago) link
one of our most exciting young players
― lag∞n, Thursday, 9 February 2023 04:39 (one year ago) link
haha he’s the guy that originated with right?
― k3vin k., Thursday, 9 February 2023 04:47 (one year ago) link
Yes lol
― four square ups... no punches thrown (Spottie), Thursday, 9 February 2023 04:47 (one year ago) link
in the house in brooklyn tonightwith lowry oladipo and herro hurt the heat are putting out some unwatchable line ups when butler sits
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 16 February 2023 02:00 (one year ago) link
Just leaving this here btwBam vs Embiid in the clutchpic.twitter.com/F8IhJUJkif— Brady Hawk (@BradyHawk305) February 28, 2023
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 28 February 2023 06:25 (one year ago) link
trae young is shooting 30.3% (with 49 turnovers) in his last 8 games vs. the Heat.— Rohan Nadkarni (@RohanNadkarni) March 5, 2023
Trae Young had one of the worst games this season - going 2/13(lowest this season) with 5 TOVsThe Heat had a similar game plan as they did in the playoffs. They prevented him from getting inside - having multiple defenders pinching in, helping off, timely doubles pic.twitter.com/1gOBKwz2h5— John Jablonka (@JohnJablonka_) March 5, 2023
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 5 March 2023 17:19 (one year ago) link
im not sure theres a less talked about solid team in the league. i hear nothing and seems like theyre never on national tv either. weird team.
― four square ups... no punches thrown (Spottie), Thursday, 30 March 2023 00:25 (one year ago) link
it’s been a weird season, right? their point differential is negative. jimmy has been spectacular, but lowry, oladapo, and duncan robinson are complete zeroes now. jimmy in particular could always make noise in the playoffs but for this to be basically the same roster that took them to the finals a few years ago has to be pretty depressing. I don’t follow them closely enough to know what their off-season move is going to be. I assume it starts with extending udonis haslem
― k3vin k., Thursday, 30 March 2023 00:59 (one year ago) link
halsem said hes hanging it up!
― lag∞n, Thursday, 30 March 2023 01:01 (one year ago) link
it’s been a very dreary season. nobody talks about them bcuz there is nothing to talk about… aside from jovic who has been hurt they didn’t add a single player to the team between the end of the finals and the buyout period they had a nice 4 year run with this iteration of the roster. i don’t necessarily fault them for their lack of action bcuz it’s a function of them understanding they need to make a big move. ultimately i think staying pat and hoarding assets at the deadline was the right move but jimmy has been outstanding this year & it’s a shame to not give him at least a fighting chance in the playoffsthe good news is they can’t possibly bring this iteration of the roster back. jimmy & bam aren’t going anywhere but i have to imagine everything else is on the table. i’m excited to see what the team looks like next year bcuz i think they’ll have 2-3 new starters
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 30 March 2023 02:17 (one year ago) link
You're gonna need tissues handy for this one 🥹Ahead of @ThisIsUD's final game his teammates from all eras of his 20 year career have nothing but love for OG pic.twitter.com/YjrE7wvkc5— Miami HEAT (@MiamiHEAT) April 8, 2023
― k3vin k., Sunday, 9 April 2023 02:20 (one year ago) link
Can’t believe Spo called the “Tyler Johnson for the win in 2015 Summer League” play for Jimmy in a close out playoff game on the road vs the #1 seed @MiamiHEAT @5ReasonsSports @5OTF_ @BradyHawk305 @DosMinutos @Alf954 @jeremytache @MarcHochman pic.twitter.com/2GxrbzvVc6— Jonathan Keller (@JKeller5) April 27, 2023
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 27 April 2023 05:49 (eleven months ago) link
congrats Jordo, that must've been awesome to watch
― frogbs, Thursday, 27 April 2023 13:49 (eleven months ago) link
Jimmy Butler para Jrue Holiday “I OWN YOU!” pic.twitter.com/QDMtPnUw77— MIAMI HEAT DEPRÊ ™️ (@MiamiHeatDepre) April 27, 2023
― lag∞n, Thursday, 27 April 2023 14:27 (eleven months ago) link
thanks frogs. it was a lot of fun
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 27 April 2023 14:56 (eleven months ago) link
jimmy & jrue were complimentary of each other in the press all series so i feel like this was just a heat of the moment type thing but i really can’t remember seeing a guy just completely go at another player like that, in that important of a playoff game, and with the game still very much in doubt the entire time. it’s not like heat were up 15 and jimmy started running his mouth. and on top of it the guy is maybe the best defender at his position in the league. it was crazy. that fake spin into midrange jumper he put on him in overtime (before staring him down all the way up the floor) was nasty. it must be some thing jimmy was doing to psyche himself up to close out the game bcuz based on their interactions otherwise in the series i don’t think he looked at jrue was like “lemme be a huge asshole and embarrass this guy bcuz i don’t like him.”
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 27 April 2023 15:06 (eleven months ago) link
jimmy was in the zone lol
― lag∞n, Thursday, 27 April 2023 15:14 (eleven months ago) link
I didn't think you'd take that so hard. But you did and I apologize.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 21 November 2023 05:09 (five months ago) link
i will take shit from people who will also engage genuinely with me on this topic i care about in this thread that is 90% my posts. if you’re just popping in w/ some zing you can save it. you’re in group 2
― slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 21 November 2023 05:26 (five months ago) link
this shit means something to me pic.twitter.com/Sxkkb0NXli— flan artest (@FarFarGone) December 2, 2023
love this dude
― truly humbled underdog (k3vin k.), Sunday, 3 December 2023 02:58 (four months ago) link
another borderline remarkable duncan robinson game last night in toronto -- put up 21-6-7 and had the ball in his hands shredding the raptors in pick and roll for much of the 4th quarter. it felt slightly hallucinatory
we know duncan and bam have their two man game down pat, but the heat were clearing out for duncan & orlando robinson to run PNR last night and the raptors simply could not stop it
these are not incredibly complicated reads or anything but he repeatedly put himself and/or orlando in a great spot to score easily and efficiently down the stretch
Now we get to the stuff I really wanted to talk about: the 4th quarter Offense hit a wall, so use Duncan as your hub out of an empty cornerPnR coverage scrambling to defend at the level, and Duncan throws a sweet lead bounce pass to Orlando for the and-1 pic.twitter.com/H3yno6m7V3— Brady Hawk (@BradyHawk305) December 7, 2023
Pass to Duncan off the screen into a high PnR, and yeah I wouldn’t go under on the screen like that too oftenAs soon as Duncan sees him about to go under, he’s in his shot motion pic.twitter.com/d8a4lJS8xd— Brady Hawk (@BradyHawk305) December 7, 2023
slow play reading the defense and just casually easing in to a wrong foot one handed runner off the glass was when i was like -- oh
So Heat go empty corner again for DuncanRaptors containing Orlando on the roll after a few possessions agoDuncan baits that into a runner off the glassIn games like this, find a player/action that’s working and counter the coverageThat’s what they began doing pic.twitter.com/Gq2rEwa8rF— Brady Hawk (@BradyHawk305) December 7, 2023
this one basically clinched the game ... doesn't panic with the big switched onto him, let's orlando pin his guy under the hoop, little bounce pass, easy bucket
So let’s go empty corner for these 2 one more timeDuncan finds space and now sees the coverage is a late switchPatiently waits for Orlando to get his seal, and that’s a win for the possessionBeing able to make reads of the different coverage play after play is huge to see pic.twitter.com/y7ZbqLcKvO— Brady Hawk (@BradyHawk305) December 7, 2023
i really hope he gets his due consideration for 6th man of the year. up to 49/44/84 shooting and blowing away his career highs in PPG (15.0) and APG (2.9) w/ no corresponding jump in turnovers. he's also blowing away his career numbers in terms of how many of his shots are being assisted. right now for his career 82% of his 2 point FGs have been assisted -- this year he is at 67%. his career number for 3 point FGs being assisted is 95% -- this year it is at 84%.
you wouldn't say he's a new or different player exactly because he still looks a lot like duncan robinson -- it's just a markedly improved version that is showing up on the court every night now. with jimmy and bam in and out of the line up and herro on a prolonged absence, it's not a stretch to say that duncan has been the most important player on the team given the degree to which they run offense thru him now. last night they sat lowry, in toronto, for basically the entire 4th quarter, had josh richardson in as "point guard" and put the game on duncan's back.
and then the most shocking thing of all is this, specifically the final play in this clip (at 49 seconds) when scottie barnes isos duncan at the top of the arc, drives on him, spins, goes for the lay up and is... just draped and contested the entire time. scottie barnes isn't kevin durant or anything but these kinda guys used to treat duncan like a traffic cone
Some Duncan Robinson defense from last nightOne of his best performances on that end pic.twitter.com/JJ3rcvRzGO— Brady Hawk (@BradyHawk305) December 7, 2023
― slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 7 December 2023 19:01 (four months ago) link
every time I watch a heat game he does something that makes me do a double take, I need to update my expectations
― truly humbled underdog (k3vin k.), Thursday, 7 December 2023 23:30 (four months ago) link
he was seemingly out of the rotation for most of last season it seemed, very weird turnaround. would be cool if he kept it going.
― infinite wiggles (Spottie), Friday, 8 December 2023 00:00 (four months ago) link
oh he wasn’t seemingly out of the rotation. he was out of the rotation. the thing is that he has noticeably improved his game in order to earn his minutes back… he had to go back in the lab. what’s unique is that typically when a guy comes out of nowhere to score a huge contract and then immediately flops after getting the bag we don’t then see the redemption story happening with the same franchise. he’s essentially a “change the scenery” guy except he didn’t actually change any scenery
― slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Friday, 8 December 2023 00:50 (four months ago) link
similarly rare to see a guy inarguably be tabbed as one of the worst contracts in the NBA shift it back not only to “ok this isn’t killing us anymore” but all the way to potentially being a value deal on the same contract
― slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Friday, 8 December 2023 00:53 (four months ago) link
I feel like the turning point for him last season was a string of games late in last season / into the playoffs where Duncan started racking up at least 1-2 pump-fake drive wide open layups, and then added a few wide-open cut layups throughout the playoffs, and it feels like he's kept it up since then.
― ヽ(´ー`)┌ (CompuPost), Friday, 8 December 2023 00:55 (four months ago) link
yeah i think less so the cutting which he developed earlier as a counter to teams “top locking” him but he definitely started showing the pump and drive game early in last year’s playoffs, doing stuff like taking jrue holiday off the dribble and scoring a lay up over him where you’re just like “whaaat?????” he’s carried that over to this season & even expanded it. he’s tall enough to get his shot off on most guys and has so far shown pretty good touch from floater range
― slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Friday, 8 December 2023 01:08 (four months ago) link
There was like a 5-10 game run where he got a wide open layup off of doing basically nothing but going to the basket. It was so clearly that the entire world knew he would do anything but drive to the hoop to shoot, and that perception was so ingrained that he was still getting some of these in the playoffs.
It's cool that his game has finally opened up from freakishly one-dimensional to some more varied skills. Sucked to see someone clearly struggle w/ their role like Duncan did last year; he never stopped shooting, but he was shooting so badly that they had to move him to the back of the rotation so he couldn't play enough minutes to hurt them.
The funny thing is that he wasn't a truly awful, has-the-yips type shooter during his long slump – still above 30% 3pt shooting, and still had defenses chasing him all over the place to defend the shots. Was just falling way short of justifying his contract. Glad he's back!
― ヽ(´ー`)┌ (CompuPost), Friday, 8 December 2023 12:41 (four months ago) link
Highest EFG% on Pull-Up Jumpers:1. Duncan Robinson: 71.4%—56 FGA2. Huerter: 63.0%—503. Haliburton: 60.2%—1864. Beasley: 59.6%—525. D. White: 57.0%—506. McCollum: 56.8%—597. Harden: 56.5%—778. Fox: 55.6%—1449. Luka: 55.0%—25110. SGA: 54.7%—192.98. THT: 21.0%—50 pic.twitter.com/cpNt37Hwd2— NBA University (@NBA_University) December 10, 2023
― truly humbled underdog (k3vin k.), Sunday, 10 December 2023 17:57 (four months ago) link
Eric Reid soft-launching Ride Captain Ride
― ヽ(´ー`)┌ (CompuPost), Monday, 18 December 2023 12:41 (four months ago) link
21 fourth quarter points for duncan last night, and it wasn't on seven threes
Still trying to find the words to describe 4th Quarter Duncan. Just watch what happened 🎥 pic.twitter.com/KxVgunen4q— Miami HEAT (@MiamiHEAT) December 23, 2023
― slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 24 December 2023 00:57 (four months ago) link
as a fan i like watching herro because he scores from all three levels and has great footwork on all sorts of jumpers but the version of him that is the most dangerous is the one that will shoot 13 threes in a game (let alone while making seven of them). he's shooting more shots per game this year than last year but fewer shots from three and that correlation needs to be going in the opposite direction when he's shooting 43.5% from three for the season. the way he steps up a level as a player and thus possibly elevates the heat is by weaponizing his pull up three the way other guards in the league do
Tyler keeps getting better and better since his return.30 piece tonight 🔥 pic.twitter.com/FVHoLjiJPe— Miami HEAT (@MiamiHEAT) December 23, 2023
if you look at pull up 3 pt shooting this year among all players averaging at least 4.5 attempts per game...
luka -- 7.8 attempts per game / 37.3% on those shotshalliburton -- 6.7 per / 40.6%trae -- 6.3 per / 39.6%steph - 5.8 per / 38.0%tatum - 5.6 per / 28.9%mitchell - 5.6 per / 35.8%lillard - 5.5 per / 36.9%bane - 5.3 per / 33.8%maxey - 4.9 per / 31.8%simons - 4.8 per / 32.6%lavine - 4.8 per / 34.5%fox - 4.6 per / 40.6%
herro is 4.1 per / 35.6%
his percentage is not at the elite level of steph, trae, halliburton, luka but he's been right there w/ mitchell, lillard, lavine and much better than simons, maxey, bane..... they just need him taking several more of these kinda shots per game, he needs to be up there w/ those other guys. his midrange game is great but that should be his counter to bending the defense via the threat of the three being popped if any room is given
― slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 24 December 2023 02:04 (four months ago) link
its bizarre that he wont take more threes every player loves to take threes
― lag∞n, Sunday, 24 December 2023 02:10 (four months ago) link
i think he has a bit of hooper's disease
― slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 24 December 2023 02:55 (four months ago) link
plz stop playing basketball “the right way” tyler
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 24 December 2023 10:05 (four months ago) link
time to hoist buddy
― lag∞n, Sunday, 24 December 2023 14:28 (four months ago) link
Is Kevin Love moving noticeably better this year, like better than he has since the Cleveland days? Not sure if he's just carrying less weight (he looks slimmer) or if five years of playing off the bench has allowed his body to mend better, but he's looked lighter on his feet the past few games than I can ever remember.
He's essentially playing the same 20min/game he's usually played for the past five seasons (feel like the Heat haven't really had any garbage time minutes for stat-padding, and Love plays against startes a fair amount), but his Per 36 numbers are his best across the board since Cleveland, w/ career highs in assists and career low in turnovers. The difference might just be enough added familiarity to add a few successful full-court outlet passes per game.
― ヽ(´ー`)┌ (CompuPost), Wednesday, 3 January 2024 13:19 (three months ago) link
yeah he's definitely dropped a lot of weight, he looks like he's 3-4 years younger
― slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 3 January 2024 16:26 (three months ago) link
i think he's overstretched playing the 5 for them but they don't have many better options right now. he has one of the greenest shooting lights i've ever seen for a role player, it's almost bertans-esque
― slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 3 January 2024 16:27 (three months ago) link
he needs to get back to this
https://i.imgur.com/Wcn5gB3.png
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 3 January 2024 16:31 (three months ago) link
proto jokic build
― polyamerie "it's more than this 1 thing" (m bison), Wednesday, 3 January 2024 16:36 (three months ago) link
― lag∞n, Wednesday, January 3, 2024 11:31 AM (fifteen minutes ago)
round mound of rebound era k love is def one of those things ppl were losing their shit over for 2-3 seasons that is going to be lost to time as everyone just remembers him as a post-bosh floor spacer
― slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 3 January 2024 16:48 (three months ago) link
he was so good
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 3 January 2024 16:48 (three months ago) link
What’s happening w this team?
― infinite wiggles (Spottie), Tuesday, 30 January 2024 02:45 (two months ago) link
i haven't been watching them much lately for reasons that both include and transcend them playing like total shit but
they got healthy finally except butler, bam, and herro haven't actually played consistent basketball together in a long time, and now you add rozier to the mix in a ball handling position, and it seems like nobody actually has any idea of how to play with or off each other. there are no defined roles. like when those 4 guys are on the floor together, who is actually the ball handler? you have 4 guys who *can* handle the ball and want to handle the ball, but how is that breaking down and what are the other 3 guys doing when the one guy has the ball? haywood highsmith knows what he's doing which is standing at the 3 line, but the other 4 guys can just be doing anything on any possession which sounds great but i think in practice may not actually make much sense. one of the reasons why they really took off in the playoffs last year was bcuz there were clearly defined roles where the ball ran thru 1. butler 2. bam end of story
i also think they miss vincent and strus on defense. and jimmy still hasn't really gotten into gear this year which is really the major thing i'm worried about
― slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 30 January 2024 03:12 (two months ago) link
Non defined roles is really hard to figure out, I trust spo to figure it out. Not to make this a warriors thing but they’re having that same prob this year, no role definition for the rotation guys so you’re not getting the best out of everyone
― infinite wiggles (Spottie), Tuesday, 30 January 2024 03:25 (two months ago) link
the thing youd like to see with a bunch of skilled guys is a lot of ball movement searching for advantages, cause if youre just doing a taking turns thing youre not really leveraging having a lot of guys who can dribble it just becomes one guy dribbling
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 30 January 2024 03:29 (two months ago) link
i didn’t see the heat game tonight but i watched the game vs the knicks on saturday and bam was just completely absent offensively… took 10 shots and only had 1 assist and didn’t shoot a free throw. tonight — 5 assists but only 9 shots and two free throws. it’s not about getting him more shots specifically as much as it’s just emblematic of their offensive flow being completely broken since they got healthy and then added rozier
― slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 30 January 2024 03:34 (two months ago) link
seems like something they can ramp up into at least, assuming jimmy is still good, he’s been kind of mediocre this year but I can’t put too much stock into his regular season performances given his track record
― truly humbled underdog (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 30 January 2024 03:41 (two months ago) link
Yeah feel like we have this convo every year since he’s been there
― infinite wiggles (Spottie), Tuesday, 30 January 2024 03:56 (two months ago) link
it was just a couple years ago that they finished first in the east
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 30 January 2024 04:00 (two months ago) link
the jimmy heat playoff legend is a lil overstated, last year was legitimately insane, but then the other year they made a run was the bubble which we all know does not count, then they made the east finals the year they finished first in the east, if they do it again this year i will reassess
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 30 January 2024 04:08 (two months ago) link
which is not to say jimmy isnt a gamer cause obvs he is and his game is good for the playoff too since he can get usually get a dece shot on his own
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 30 January 2024 04:17 (two months ago) link
on jan 31 the heat beat the kings to snap their 7 game losing streak. in the 8 games following that game, plus that game (9 total), they are fifth in the league with a +9.3 net rating. they're basically dead even w/ the timberwolves for no 1 defense over that stretch: 104.7 def rating for miami vs a 104.1 def rating for minnesota.
butler has played in 6 of those 9 games, averaging 23/8/6 on 56/53/76 shooting. attempting only 12.7 shots from the field in that span vs 9.7 free throw attempts. he is clearly trying a lot harder than he had been for most of the season (he was definitely trying hard during their losing streak, to be clear) & is just asserting himself athletically in ways i think he was declining to do for the first 2.5-3 months of the season. he had 23-9-6 on 12 shots in 27 mins in new orleans the other night before getting ejected early in the 4th quarter. he was +19 for the game.
― slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 25 February 2024 20:48 (two months ago) link
i've been wanting to post about nikola jovic's 24-7-3 performance in milwaukee from before the all star break because you can see the vision for him playing next to bam
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIfBiF_q-uk
so obviously he was bombing threes in this game which is just one of those things, that needs to be acknowledged from the start. but his shot looks good -- it's fluid, repeatable and he was feeling confident. he showed some ability to relocate as the play shifts and get off clean looks. you can see in this game how he could operate as a floor spacer in pick and roll situations. the heat were hot overall in this game but they got a lot of mileage out of jovic being on the floor w/ other shooters (herro, robinson) that need to be respected. he also scores in semi transition at the rim on giannis, he's very comfortable playing in transition, like a lot of euro guys he just sees the floor well and does not panic, and he can use his size to score around the basket when he can get on the move in transition
more importantly, he is holding up defensively. for as fun as that game was, he has scored only 6 points since. but he's been in the starting line up because the heat don't actually have another 4 and it's an exciting peak at a future where the heat can play bigger while still being able to space the floor and move the ball the way they want. olynyk filled this role well for them and jovic looks like he can be that kinda player if not more. you can see him on this rep here being able to move his feet w/ giannis and use his size to keep him away from the hoop and contest the fadeaway
🔒Nikola Jovic🔒 pic.twitter.com/oLdBrR7Wn4— Brady Hawk (@BradyHawk305) February 14, 2024
vs new orleans last night they started him on valanciunas so bam could freelance. jonas def had a physical advantage over him but niko held his own, didn't get overwhelmed, and the heat were +7 in the first. the question now is to what extent he can hold up in the playoffs this year because i think the heat will need another card to play in the back up big rotation aside from kevin love.
at 20 years old and not turning 21 until june, he is still younger than several players from the most recent draft including brandon miller and the thompson twins. he has put a lot of work into his body and it's allowing him to play in a role that makes sense for both him and the team. i think the heat scouted him well in terms of his personality, work ethic and all that. jimmy is very fond of him. i don't think he's an all star type player or anything but i'm very optimistic that he has a chance to be a good to high level role player w/ a very contemporary skillset
― slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 25 February 2024 21:13 (two months ago) link
https://www.instagram.com/p/C3yW1w1P5j2
― slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 25 February 2024 22:19 (two months ago) link
so about two weeks ago bam seemingly decided to just start shooting threes from the top of the key and he’s looked really good doing so to this point
Good morning.Since Bam Adebayo randomly decided to wake up & shoot 3s, he’s 9-of-14 (63.8 percent) from 3-point range.Hilarious development … and his form/rhythm look clean while doing it too.#HEATCulture pic.twitter.com/ITBebGmvyl— Matt Hanifan (@mph_824_) March 30, 2024
― slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 31 March 2024 15:04 (three weeks ago) link
before making 9 of his last 14 from three bam was 9 for 76 on his career. they’ve been talking about him working on this shot — the straight line 3 — for years now, idk if anyone knows why he suddenly started shooting them or what his actual “true talent” is from there but if he gets it to a place over the next few years where you have to even somewhat check him up there when he doesn’t have the ball that would be interesting for the heat. a bam that provides even a modicum of spacing would be one of the better players in the league, it’s basically the only thing keeping him out of the discussion for top 10 guys in the league
― slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 31 March 2024 15:12 (three weeks ago) link
they apparently decided to have him focus on the three from the top of the key as his breakthrough into long range shooting, as opposed to the corner, bcuz it preserves his ability to function as the playmaker in their offense from that position on the floor
― slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 31 March 2024 15:15 (three weeks ago) link
i always liked the top of the key shot its maybe good for people who are too reliant on looking at the basket rather than just having the shot grooved on a feel level which is what youre supposed to do, anyway shooting threes is good nice move by bam and the heat
― lag∞n, Sunday, 31 March 2024 15:19 (three weeks ago) link
It's cool that Rozier finally plays for a good team again and people can watch him drop 30pts in meaningful games. Had some beautiful side-step jumpers tonight.
― ヽ(´ー`)┌ (CompuPost), Wednesday, 3 April 2024 02:49 (three weeks ago) link
i’ve enjoyed watching him, his footwork is really nice. he jumps like a foot horizontally on his sidestep three it’s crazy, he beat cleveland on a similar shot recently https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GH-88FMnbrM
― slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 3 April 2024 03:33 (three weeks ago) link
Heat season doesn't truly begin until they're losing in the 4th Q in the final play-in game.
― ヽ(´ー`)┌ (CompuPost), Thursday, 18 April 2024 12:09 (one week ago) link