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they (nearly) lost you!

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 7 October 2022 11:53 (one year ago) link

Was going to complain about this same glaring omission but noticed they threw Mark Lanegan on there to compensate, I guess

Like many of you I loathe all of these lists on general principle but I will concede I enjoyed the One Hit Wonders list, which was obviously not meant to be complete or exhaustive, and was just a fun read. I like a lot of those songs more than I remembered. That Sixpence None The Richer song sounds a lot better to me after not hearing it constantly in the 90s everywhere I went. Now I'm wondering if "Sex and Candy" and similarly once-ubiquitous hits have aged as well

Paul Ponzi, Friday, 7 October 2022 14:07 (one year ago) link

"Sex and Candy" reeked like a damp sock in 1998.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 7 October 2022 14:09 (one year ago) link

No argument. I associate it with that Sixpence song and a few others that seemed to follow me everywhere I went the year it was released

Paul Ponzi, Friday, 7 October 2022 15:22 (one year ago) link

Speaking from somewhere where it was only a minor hit (UK #29 but completely forgotten) I think Sex and Candy mystifies me more than any other US one hit wonder. It's so tuneless and comatose and it turned up very late.

you can see me from westbury white horse, Friday, 7 October 2022 16:55 (one year ago) link

Let me tell you about Wheatus

hi hole im dad (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 7 October 2022 16:59 (one year ago) link

don't love the song but if there's a musical moment to it that hooks it's his kind kind of slinky dragging behind the beat phrasing and nice descending guitar lick of after a quick rest in the chorus the *pause* i smell sex and can....day then *pause* "who's that loung....in" part

not really enough to make it a good song but that is the musical thing that made the song popular imo

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 7 October 2022 17:00 (one year ago) link

I feel like this song has come up a lot lately, lol

UMS otm... I don't blame anyone for not liking it (I do), but I think the hook is undeniable

Linkin Bio (morrisp), Friday, 7 October 2022 17:06 (one year ago) link

I don't think that's top 10 catchy at all, especially not when its played as half-asleep as it sounds. Mind you I've never had to hear the song repeatedly.

you can see me from westbury white horse, Friday, 7 October 2022 17:13 (one year ago) link

I studied abroad in the UK in 1998-99 and was asked by the student newspaper to name my least favorite song of 1998, and I said "Sex and Candy," though I don't think the person asking was familiar with it.

jaymc, Friday, 7 October 2022 17:34 (one year ago) link

Both were hard to find in the UK in that era iirc

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 7 October 2022 17:40 (one year ago) link

Let me tell you about Wheatus

― hi hole im dad (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, October 7, 2022 11:59 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

that song never actually made the hot 100 but did hit #2 in the uk and #1 in australia

comedy khadafi (voodoo chili), Friday, 7 October 2022 18:09 (one year ago) link

the one time i saw marcy playground in concert most of their songs reminded me of archers of loaf. also "sex and candy" is good imo

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 7 October 2022 18:12 (one year ago) link

that song never actually made the hot 100 but did hit #2 in the uk and #1 in australia

And, regardless of whatever its quality may be, it's tuneful and lively and makes total sense in a 2001 chart context.

you can see me from westbury white horse, Friday, 7 October 2022 18:26 (one year ago) link

It actually kept Last Resort at #3 and was released just as Rollin' slipped from number one. Give the Feeder and Ash classics (for they are classics) in the top 10 as well around that time early 2001 was maybe the most powerful Kerrang! had ever been on the singles chart.

you can see me from westbury white horse, Friday, 7 October 2022 18:28 (one year ago) link

In the UK this is not AUS

you can see me from westbury white horse, Friday, 7 October 2022 18:31 (one year ago) link

Shame it was pure shite era Kerrang

Toshirō Nofune (The Seventh ILXorai), Friday, 7 October 2022 18:36 (one year ago) link

Yet the 'pure shite era' is what Kerrang treats now as the totem age. Helps matters that many of their key bands of the time are popular with Gen Z.

you can see me from westbury white horse, Friday, 7 October 2022 18:47 (one year ago) link

the period after is actually when they got peak sales and over 50% of readership was female. I don't really know what they were covering though (Brad emo?) as I stopped buying it because of the pure shite era beforehand.

Toshirō Nofune (The Seventh ILXorai), Friday, 7 October 2022 19:32 (one year ago) link

White Stripes were getting coverage in that so called totem age. Along with the darkness and the hives + the remains of nu metal.

Toshirō Nofune (The Seventh ILXorai), Friday, 7 October 2022 19:33 (one year ago) link

Sex and Candy is a lazy groove banger. It was huge here in Aotearoa NZ and I can see why. Nobody can convince me it isn't a great song.

The Ghost Club, Friday, 7 October 2022 20:42 (one year ago) link

Oh god Maroon 5 covered it... Travesty

The Ghost Club, Friday, 7 October 2022 20:43 (one year ago) link

don't love the song but if there's a musical moment to it that hooks it's his kind kind of slinky dragging behind the beat phrasing and nice descending guitar lick of after a quick rest in the chorus the *pause* i smell sex and can....day then *pause* "who's that loung....in" part

not really enough to make it a good song but that is the musical thing that made the song popular imo

― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, October 7, 2022 1:00 PM (eight hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

like disco lemonayyyyyde

flopson, Saturday, 8 October 2022 02:02 (one year ago) link

Oh god Maroon 5 covered it... Travesty

― The Ghost Club

Adam & the Levines would know.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 8 October 2022 02:07 (one year ago) link

Let me tell you about Wheatus

Today I learned that "Teenage Dirtbag" is my ten-year-old niece's favourite song.

Halfway there but for you, Sunday, 9 October 2022 02:33 (one year ago) link

“Here Comes the Hotstepper” = notable omission from the One Hit Wonders list (even if it wasn’t deemed worthy of Best Songs).

Linkin Bio (morrisp), Sunday, 9 October 2022 02:42 (one year ago) link

(checks site idly post-12am EDT Sunday)

Whoa… did Wu-Tang die or something?

Linkin Bio (morrisp), Sunday, 9 October 2022 04:32 (one year ago) link

how a 90s song list that doesn't include sugar ray's "fly" is criminal.

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Sunday, 9 October 2022 07:07 (one year ago) link

proto-Fleet Foxes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtVORaI-f0s

papal hotwife (milo z), Sunday, 9 October 2022 07:13 (one year ago) link

Their 90’s house list is agreeable for the most part.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 13 October 2022 18:33 (one year ago) link

The music doesn’t begin so much as surface, as if “Around the World” arises from some great depth, that lowpass filter cutting out the high-end without obscuring the “fundamental” signal. And then the song fully emerges, the bass suddenly going like something stolen out from under Bernard Edwards’ fingertips, the hi-hat doing that bright, open chhh business on the offbeat. The up-from-underground stuff turns out to have been sort of poignantly appropriate. “Around the World” was an exhumation, disco as reworked in post-industrial Chicago and Detroit, then adapted anew by two blessed weirdos from Montmartre, Thomas Bangalter and Guy-Manuel de Homem-Christo.

Who says dance music isn't exciting?

hi hole im dad (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 13 October 2022 19:25 (one year ago) link

damn another classic by that guy

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, 13 October 2022 19:33 (one year ago) link

i've said it before and i'll say it again–"da funk" destroys "around the world" any day of the week

comedy khadafi (voodoo chili), Thursday, 13 October 2022 19:46 (one year ago) link

agree 1000%

lets hear some blues on those synths (brimstead), Thursday, 13 October 2022 20:02 (one year ago) link

1000000000000%

Toshirō Nofune (The Seventh ILXorai), Thursday, 13 October 2022 20:14 (one year ago) link

what if they are both good songs?

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 13 October 2022 20:56 (one year ago) link

they only picked one

comedy khadafi (voodoo chili), Thursday, 13 October 2022 20:59 (one year ago) link

My only complaint about this list is that they picked a bunch of songs that they already wrote up blurbs about in the top 250 songs list.

MarkoP, Thursday, 13 October 2022 21:32 (one year ago) link

Hard pass on the David Morales and there are much much better AVH productions. The Bucketheads was pretty much peak Kenny Gonzalez though true.

recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Thursday, 13 October 2022 22:02 (one year ago) link

oh yeah, didn't even realize "the bomb" wasn't on there! damn

comedy khadafi (voodoo chili), Thursday, 13 October 2022 23:08 (one year ago) link

Fly Life in its Brix Mix is a top 10 record of the 90s

you can see me from westbury white horse, Thursday, 13 October 2022 23:10 (one year ago) link

and the Extra mix is a stunning catwalk of bass and freeform white noise

you can see me from westbury white horse, Thursday, 13 October 2022 23:12 (one year ago) link

Pitchfork doesn’t really have any authority to run such a list, afaic— why would I pay attention to it?

broccoli rabe thomas (the table is the table), Friday, 14 October 2022 11:09 (one year ago) link

What does authority have to do with it? It's just some people's opinions about music.

jaymc, Friday, 14 October 2022 13:06 (one year ago) link

Pitchfork let their music opinion license lapse.

What does authority have to do with it?

well they call it "The 30 Best House Tracks of the ’90s" so you might think they were experts on the genre

don't imagine people who care deeply abt 90s house look to p4k for coverage

enjoyed the list

corrs unplugged, Friday, 14 October 2022 15:55 (one year ago) link

are there reasons to assert Sherburne and Cardew aren't experts here? I'm no expert, so I genuinely don't know

rob, Friday, 14 October 2022 16:06 (one year ago) link

I meant merely what corrs understood— P4k is not a site that has much to do with the genre, and p4k wasn’t even around during much of that decade. Sherburne is a fine writer and a nice person, from my
memories, but it just seems like a primer that has been done before by publications that come from the culture. Yeah, it’s a boring ‘authenticity’ argument, but oh well— that’s what a site is subject to when it is a clearinghouse for criticism of every genre of music.

broccoli rabe thomas (the table is the table), Friday, 14 October 2022 19:58 (one year ago) link

Yeah, that's fair; I feel similarly when they turn their attention to Jamaican music. Plus there is something undeniably opportunistic or just trend-chasing about big-upping house in particular right now

(my q was based on the fact that Sherburne is the primary reason I read their reviews these days, but I hear you)

rob, Friday, 14 October 2022 20:30 (one year ago) link


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