All Series Must Die (Which Is Why There Are New Ones) -- The Game of Thrones Series Spinoffs

if things get a little out of hand, you just have a monster from beyond the wall invade. everyone fights, nearly everyone dies, only one remains to reign.

speaking of game of thrones, i'm hoping that at some point in HotD they show these guys building a wall in the north, and all the villagers make fun of them because there's no way they could build a wall so wide that it span the entire peninsula. but then these guys say "not only will it span the peninsula, but it's gonna be thousands of feet tall as well. so tall that absolutely no one will ever be able to breach it, not even a epochal monster from beyond...this pile of bricks, that one day may well make a name for itself."

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(all the above to say, if i seem brusquely dismissive of massively successful HBO spin-off television program HOUSE OF DRAGONS, i think i have earned it)

i'd like to see an entire spin-off that's all about the wall, every episode, including issues with the contractor wanting to modify the scope of work

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xxps The Wall is already there in the current show though, iirc characters have made direct references to being sent there as punishment already (Harwin Strong perhaps?)

I'm a little curious who has read the book the current show is based on… I only read it once right after it came out and my wife got it as an Xmas gift. It moves very differently than ASOIAF, particularly in the "major battles" segment. My memory is of much more palace intrigue, doublecrossing, etc than epicness, but perhaps my memory is flawed.

xxps The Wall is already there in the current show though, iirc characters have made direct references to being sent there as punishment already (Harwin Strong perhaps?)

Awwwww maaaan

xp there was some epic dragon stuff and big bloody battles. some exciting set pieces to come, and some moments of extreme discomfort and (emotional and physical) brutality!

Matt Smith as Daemon when in the full armor pretty much looks like Elric from the comics, especially with the dragon on the helm.

good lord, this show just keeps delivering the brutality

yeah, the decapitation scene was some more body horror. there is a lot of it. it is just as it was in real life, in the time of the game of thrones - life was brutal and so we must see every entrail

btw that was a fucking episode. old man dying viserys was incredible. my first thoughts on his character and how he was playing it were so negative. if/when i do a S1 rewatch i'm looking forward to watching the first episodes with an eye on how it will play out. great character

paddy considine rules

loved this ep

dinner party scene was really excellent too, i was genuinely moved by it

I’m impressed the silent sisters were able to keep the top of his skull from falling over and rolling off the table.
I guess this maybe isn’t their first rodeo in that regard.

Anyways - aside from massive difficulties keeping track of these fucking dragon people names, I very much enjoyed the episode. Shits gonna get real soon!!

I cant get over how Daemon just cut that guy's head off and they kind of all went "oh well, lets go have supper!" Seemed a bit weird.

he was gonna get executed anyway for his treason so they were like “welp, i guess now we don’t have to pay a headsman”

that particular scene had me cackling and screaming more than any moment so far. Daemon daring him to say it, which led to chants of "say it say it say it" over here, and then Vaemond just utterly shouting the b word and whoosh, head departs body, chef's kiss. Quality TV making, I tell you what.

The b-word is not allowed in the throne room, official policy

he did yell it quite loud

Viserys is extremely hard of hearing at this point though

honestly loved him reaching for his dagger like what was left of him was about to go stab a guy

xp hard of seeing too

man the names things, so confusing. I paused this episode 10 times to try to sort out which kid was which when they were talking about them.

alicent's kids:
aegon - short, blonde, both eyes
aemond - tall, blonde, one eye
helaena - blonde, likes bugs, only girl

she has a fourth kid in the books, prob cut from the show tho

rhaenyra's kids "with laenor":
jacaerys (jace) - tall, black curly hair
lucerys (luke) - younger, black curly hair
joffrey - even younger, black curly hair

rhaenyra's kids with daemon:
aegon (yes another one) - child, blonde hair
viserys (yes another one) - toddler, blonde hair

this episode was excellent; this show is actually getting better with each episode.

and helaena is married to brother aegon right?

now do daemon's kids.

yes helaena is married to aegon

daemon's kids are harder for me to tell apart, since they've had less screen time and not much in the way of personality distinction.

daemon's kids w/ laena
baela - ward at driftmark with her grandmother rhaenys, shorter hair
rhaena - chilling at dragonstone with rhaenyra and daemon, longer hair

lol sorry to add to confusion. baela's hair may be shorter than rhaena's, but it's still long. rhaena has the cool hairstyle with her long hair elaborately done up, while baela's hairstyles have been simpler

i was having a serious hard time figuring out who was who in the driftmark line of succession

same! also “driftmark” is such a nothing name that i can’t always picture right away who all that is, it’s so undramatic like Kirkland Signature

that's prob why they keep saying "lord of the tides," which is an objectively cooler name

waiting for nick nolte to show up “all hail prince of tides”

Plus drift mark is the island and high tide is the castle right?

that particular scene had me cackling and screaming more than any moment so far. Daemon daring him to say it, which led to chants of "say it say it say it" over here, and then Vaemond just utterly shouting the b word and whoosh, head departs body, chef's kiss. Quality TV making, I tell you what.

his depiction of being a very sick man struggling through pain was so good. it was painful to watch, in a good way

i was fairly confused by 'sea snake' because I thought the sea snake was that dude Matt Smith cut to pieces in the cave. But I guess it's Corlys. Also did Corlys actually die? wouldn't it be funny if he just showed up next week?

and helaena is married to brother aegon right?

Wait what? I get this mob interbreeds like crazy but actual brother and sister are married?

Also what was actually wrong with the King anyway bcs I was thinking someone was poisoning him. It looked like leprosy or syphyllis or something.

xp this was mentioned in the last episode during a conversation between the two brothers?

Xp he was poisoned by the throne, literally

Excuse me I know I am late to the game and I am watching episode 3

the Kingswood bit literally reenacts the "Rodents of Unusual Size" segment from Princess Bride

I am legit astonished

now we just need a six-fingered ser

anyway, carry on

this vulture discussion about how the time jump plotting leads to necessary viewing disconnection hits on lots of reasons why I find this show difficult to care about as anything more than a really well filmed wikipedia page
https://www.vulture.com/article/house-of-the-dragon-time-jumps.html

The new episode was kind of weak

i agree that it was a step down, but still enjoyed it greatly.

the foot fetish thing was a bit cheap, but i guess it's relatively tame compared to the proclivities of many in this universe

I thought the building tension throughout the first 50 minutes was great, the climax was absolute shit though.

it just felt like it was very randomly thrown in there. same with the search for Aegon, the whole point seemed to be that they wanted to come up with something really demented that he was doing.

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the climax was very frustrating. I don't know how much can really be gleaned from next week's preview, but if the idea is that she's flying back to dragonstone to warn everyone that it is war time, then why the hell did she not just roast the coronation party first?

i guess it's not technically a "hot war" yet and she was prob moved by alicent protecting her kid. she didn't have a problem murdering dozens of innocent bystanders tho lol, im sure there were mothers in that crowd

yeah, that was a weirdass ending. she murdered about a hundred randos, had a chance to end the entire show and prevent the next several seasons from needing to happen, and then flew off