a friend of mine has read all of the books many times and is always angry with the show but can't stop watching. he also can't stop telling me about what is going to happen, or rather, what should happen. i have learned to stare blankly and let all the future and past Aegons and Joffreys and Maedysyns, and how they all slept with each other, probably, come and go with absolutely zero attempt to remember any of it
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 5 October 2022 18:04 (one year ago) link
girl same
― “Cheeky cheeky!” she trills, nearly demolishing a roadside post (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 5 October 2022 18:06 (one year ago) link
with the key difference being that i enjoy the show, lol
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 5 October 2022 18:08 (one year ago) link
I never made it past the first book. My eldest, who had the patience to finish the entire Wheel of Time series, eventually gave this series up in frustration, proclaiming the entire thing a hot mess that would never resolve. Which, if she's right, kind of gives the showrunners a free hand.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 5 October 2022 18:10 (one year ago) link
i grew up reading GRRM's various other work (notably wildcards, where my user name comes from!) but i only read the first two fire and ice books on the subway when the show first came out. They were fine! They were better than what everyone else was reading in the subway at that time, which was shades of gray.
― “Cheeky cheeky!” she trills, nearly demolishing a roadside post (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 5 October 2022 18:14 (one year ago) link
this series is based off a completed story by grrm, albeit one told in history textbook fashion
― comedy khadafi (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 5 October 2022 18:15 (one year ago) link
In my (admittedly limited) experience, the best thing GRRM wrote was "Sandkings."
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 5 October 2022 18:15 (one year ago) link
if things get a little out of hand, you just have a monster from beyond the wall invade. everyone fights, nearly everyone dies, only one remains to reign.
speaking of game of thrones, i'm hoping that at some point in HotD they show these guys building a wall in the north, and all the villagers make fun of them because there's no way they could build a wall so wide that it span the entire peninsula. but then these guys say "not only will it span the peninsula, but it's gonna be thousands of feet tall as well. so tall that absolutely no one will ever be able to breach it, not even a epochal monster from beyond...this pile of bricks, that one day may well make a name for itself."
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 5 October 2022 18:16 (one year ago) link
xp to jimbeaux
― comedy khadafi (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 5 October 2022 18:16 (one year ago) link
(all the above to say, if i seem brusquely dismissive of massively successful HBO spin-off television program HOUSE OF DRAGONS, i think i have earned it)
― “Cheeky cheeky!” she trills, nearly demolishing a roadside post (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 5 October 2022 18:17 (one year ago) link
i'd like to see an entire spin-off that's all about the wall, every episode, including issues with the contractor wanting to modify the scope of work
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 5 October 2022 18:18 (one year ago) link
pic.twitter.com/GSfx6khmkU— Out Of Context Football (@nocontextfooty) October 6, 2022
― calzino, Thursday, 6 October 2022 07:02 (one year ago) link
xxps The Wall is already there in the current show though, iirc characters have made direct references to being sent there as punishment already (Harwin Strong perhaps?)
I'm a little curious who has read the book the current show is based on… I only read it once right after it came out and my wife got it as an Xmas gift. It moves very differently than ASOIAF, particularly in the "major battles" segment. My memory is of much more palace intrigue, doublecrossing, etc than epicness, but perhaps my memory is flawed.
― underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Thursday, 6 October 2022 16:24 (one year ago) link
xxps The Wall is already there in the current show though, iirc characters have made direct references to being sent there as punishment already (Harwin Strong perhaps?)Awwwww maaaan
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 6 October 2022 16:29 (one year ago) link
xp there was some epic dragon stuff and big bloody battles. some exciting set pieces to come, and some moments of extreme discomfort and (emotional and physical) brutality!
― comedy khadafi (voodoo chili), Thursday, 6 October 2022 17:36 (one year ago) link
Matt Smith as Daemon when in the full armor pretty much looks like Elric from the comics, especially with the dragon on the helm.
― earlnash, Friday, 7 October 2022 03:13 (one year ago) link
good lord, this show just keeps delivering the brutality
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Monday, 10 October 2022 03:58 (one year ago) link
yeah, the decapitation scene was some more body horror. there is a lot of it. it is just as it was in real life, in the time of the game of thrones - life was brutal and so we must see every entrail
― Karl Malone, Monday, 10 October 2022 04:02 (one year ago) link
btw that was a fucking episode. old man dying viserys was incredible. my first thoughts on his character and how he was playing it were so negative. if/when i do a S1 rewatch i'm looking forward to watching the first episodes with an eye on how it will play out. great character
― Karl Malone, Monday, 10 October 2022 04:03 (one year ago) link
paddy considine rulesloved this ep
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 10 October 2022 05:35 (one year ago) link
dinner party scene was really excellent too, i was genuinely moved by it
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 10 October 2022 05:40 (one year ago) link
I’m impressed the silent sisters were able to keep the top of his skull from falling over and rolling off the table. I guess this maybe isn’t their first rodeo in that regard.
Anyways - aside from massive difficulties keeping track of these fucking dragon people names, I very much enjoyed the episode. Shits gonna get real soon!!
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 10 October 2022 05:59 (one year ago) link
I cant get over how Daemon just cut that guy's head off and they kind of all went "oh well, lets go have supper!" Seemed a bit weird.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 10 October 2022 10:12 (one year ago) link
he was gonna get executed anyway for his treason so they were like “welp, i guess now we don’t have to pay a headsman”
― comedy khadafi (voodoo chili), Monday, 10 October 2022 11:07 (one year ago) link
that particular scene had me cackling and screaming more than any moment so far. Daemon daring him to say it, which led to chants of "say it say it say it" over here, and then Vaemond just utterly shouting the b word and whoosh, head departs body, chef's kiss. Quality TV making, I tell you what.
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Monday, 10 October 2022 13:42 (one year ago) link
The b-word is not allowed in the throne room, official policy
― Karl Malone, Monday, 10 October 2022 13:57 (one year ago) link
he did yell it quite loud
― comedy khadafi (voodoo chili), Monday, 10 October 2022 14:10 (one year ago) link
Viserys is extremely hard of hearing at this point though
― Karl Malone, Monday, 10 October 2022 14:34 (one year ago) link
honestly loved him reaching for his dagger like what was left of him was about to go stab a guy
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 10 October 2022 14:40 (one year ago) link
xp hard of seeing too
― underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Monday, 10 October 2022 14:51 (one year ago) link
man the names things, so confusing. I paused this episode 10 times to try to sort out which kid was which when they were talking about them.
― dan selzer, Monday, 10 October 2022 15:11 (one year ago) link
alicent's kids:aegon - short, blonde, both eyesaemond - tall, blonde, one eyehelaena - blonde, likes bugs, only girl
she has a fourth kid in the books, prob cut from the show tho
rhaenyra's kids "with laenor":jacaerys (jace) - tall, black curly hairlucerys (luke) - younger, black curly hairjoffrey - even younger, black curly hair
rhaenyra's kids with daemon:aegon (yes another one) - child, blonde hairviserys (yes another one) - toddler, blonde hair
― comedy khadafi (voodoo chili), Monday, 10 October 2022 15:30 (one year ago) link
this episode was excellent; this show is actually getting better with each episode.
― akm, Monday, 10 October 2022 15:39 (one year ago) link
and helaena is married to brother aegon right?
now do daemon's kids.
― dan selzer, Monday, 10 October 2022 15:54 (one year ago) link
yes helaena is married to aegon
daemon's kids are harder for me to tell apart, since they've had less screen time and not much in the way of personality distinction.
daemon's kids w/ laenabaela - ward at driftmark with her grandmother rhaenys, shorter hairrhaena - chilling at dragonstone with rhaenyra and daemon, longer hair
― comedy khadafi (voodoo chili), Monday, 10 October 2022 16:18 (one year ago) link
lol sorry to add to confusion. baela's hair may be shorter than rhaena's, but it's still long. rhaena has the cool hairstyle with her long hair elaborately done up, while baela's hairstyles have been simpler
― comedy khadafi (voodoo chili), Monday, 10 October 2022 16:21 (one year ago) link
i was having a serious hard time figuring out who was who in the driftmark line of succession
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 10 October 2022 16:36 (one year ago) link
same! also “driftmark” is such a nothing name that i can’t always picture right away who all that is, it’s so undramatic like Kirkland Signature
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 10 October 2022 16:39 (one year ago) link
that's prob why they keep saying "lord of the tides," which is an objectively cooler name
― comedy khadafi (voodoo chili), Monday, 10 October 2022 16:42 (one year ago) link
waiting for nick nolte to show up “all hail prince of tides”
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 10 October 2022 16:48 (one year ago) link
Plus drift mark is the island and high tide is the castle right?
― mizzell, Monday, 10 October 2022 17:20 (one year ago) link
― barry sito (gyac), Monday, 10 October 2022 20:52 (one year ago) link
his depiction of being a very sick man struggling through pain was so good. it was painful to watch, in a good way
― Karl Malone, Monday, 10 October 2022 20:57 (one year ago) link
i was fairly confused by 'sea snake' because I thought the sea snake was that dude Matt Smith cut to pieces in the cave. But I guess it's Corlys. Also did Corlys actually die? wouldn't it be funny if he just showed up next week?
― akm, Monday, 10 October 2022 23:16 (one year ago) link
Wait what? I get this mob interbreeds like crazy but actual brother and sister are married?
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 11 October 2022 04:59 (one year ago) link
Also what was actually wrong with the King anyway bcs I was thinking someone was poisoning him. It looked like leprosy or syphyllis or something.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 11 October 2022 05:00 (one year ago) link
xp this was mentioned in the last episode during a conversation between the two brothers?
― barry sito (gyac), Tuesday, 11 October 2022 05:05 (one year ago) link
Xp he was poisoned by the throne, literally
― “Cheeky cheeky!” she trills, nearly demolishing a roadside post (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 11 October 2022 07:51 (one year ago) link
Excuse me I know I am late to the game and I am watching episode 3
the Kingswood bit literally reenacts the "Rodents of Unusual Size" segment from Princess Bride
I am legit astonished
now we just need a six-fingered ser
anyway, carry on
― the floor is guava (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 12 October 2022 02:14 (one year ago) link
this vulture discussion about how the time jump plotting leads to necessary viewing disconnection hits on lots of reasons why I find this show difficult to care about as anything more than a really well filmed wikipedia page https://www.vulture.com/article/house-of-the-dragon-time-jumps.html
― “Cheeky cheeky!” she trills, nearly demolishing a roadside post (forksclovetofu), Monday, 17 October 2022 02:45 (one year ago) link