pitchfork is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)

cats love pumpkin ime

My cat likes mushrooms. Cats are weird.

Supporting young musicians and artists and writers?

Several young students of music and writing would probably say yes.

I think Alfred was asking about your cat supporting young musicians and artists and writers.

Haha I just fed him some mushroom and he gobbled it up.

And a good-hearted cat they are too.

Oh I know. My cat is very vocal and supportive during virtual lessons.xps

it seems like some of the musicians in this band sonic youth are pretty cool

I try not to get too worked up by what gets considered a one-hit wonder, but I am a little surprised to see Arrested Development show up on Pitchfork's list of the best one hit wonders of the 90s. A flash in the pan? yes. But certainly not a one hit wonder, when People Everyday and Mr Wendal charted at around the same high ranking spots.

Yeah, a one-hit wonder with three Top 10 hits...

Which one is their one hit? Mr. Wendel and People Everyday have more Spotify streams than Tennessee.

in the US:

"Tennessee" peaked at #6
"People Everyday" peaked at #8
"Mr. Wendal" peaked at #6

in the UK:

"Tennessee" did not chart
"People Everyday" peaked at #2
"Mr. Wendal" peaked at #4

wait, incorrect, "Tennessee" hit #18 in the UK, looked at wrong source

arrested development is a one-album wonder, different thing

The list feels pretty... noncomprehensive, but I guess it's just meant to be a smattering of "favorites."

Tom Green. Everyone's favorite.

Arrested Development were also terrible

ban

yeah they became terrible but that first album is very classic imo

Today I learned that not only are they still around, they've released NINE albums since 2001.

This is a jam:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEaS0_phG8o

I seem to remember the Squirrel Nut Zippers' Hot being more of a one album wonder than Hell being a one hit wonder too. I see only Hell charted but "Put a Lid on it" and "Got My Own Thing Now" seemed like they got plenty airplay too -- it could have just been a local radio thing or that I'm confusing the ubiquity of the 90s swing revival with the one CD I bought from it though.

i only ever heard "hell" which was on vh1 every five minutes. love that song tho

My gf showed me the p4k 90s songs list the other day. I ctrl-f'd "Missy" and was very pleased.

In 2008 when I was a 20yo college radio DJ my station started holding regular 1990s dance parties. The top 25 of this list includes many of the songs I was most excited to play out, including their #1. My first thought is "Wow I really knew what was up," but the reality is probably just that this list was assembled by a bunch of 30something former college radio DJs with similar taste lol

For a look at how things have changed (or not), here is a playlist I made last year when I was trying to assemble a top 10 for each decade. I am a lot less high on either the boom bap or the shiny suit era hip hop than I used to be, but Nas will always have a place in my HOF
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/32xQXPJ3kT1y0u9mEdKlS5?si=wlWHLakoRByn8dOA3-bhVg&utm_source=copy-link

https://pitchfork.com/features/lists-and-guides/the-best-grunge-albums-of-the-90s/

ok so, afghan whigs, sonic youth, and pj harvey are grunge

I feel like the Whigs are at least defensible but not those other two.

Dirty is at least grunge-adjacent/informed, no?

Best Grunge was made in the 80s

idk, for some reason I always associated Experimental Jetset more with grunge than Dirty.

Neither of them really sound "grunge" to my ears, but the former is just some weird association I've always held.

If Dirty and Gish are grunge, then Come’s Eleven: Eleven sure as fuck is and needs to be there

Also, no Gits? Love Battery? What a basic list

“Best grunge was made in the 80’s”

I’d probably say so, given the work of Band of Susans and Live Skull

Hardly think of those as grunge bands. Capital-G grunge in the '80s was, unfortunately, the likes of Green River or Mother Love Bone.

best grunge was in the 60s, blue cheer, everybody knows this is nowhere

High Tide - Sea Shanties!

Superfuzzbigmuff was 88

Therefore the best grunge was made in the 80s

Superfuzz Bigmuff, Ultramega OK and Bleach all feel like outliers rather than representative. The was a lot of unlistenable dreck in that late '80s Pacific NW scene.

🎵 Gloried version of appellate grunge 🎶

Lol

Lack of Screaming Trees

High Tide - Sea Shanties!

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This shit is so classic

they made a grunge list and didn’t include Screaming Trees? lmfao dumbass publication, no wonder i don’t read it any longer

Next thing you know they’ll do a list if 2000s minimal and leave Villalobos off the list

they (nearly) lost you!

Was going to complain about this same glaring omission but noticed they threw Mark Lanegan on there to compensate, I guess

Like many of you I loathe all of these lists on general principle but I will concede I enjoyed the One Hit Wonders list, which was obviously not meant to be complete or exhaustive, and was just a fun read. I like a lot of those songs more than I remembered. That Sixpence None The Richer song sounds a lot better to me after not hearing it constantly in the 90s everywhere I went. Now I'm wondering if "Sex and Candy" and similarly once-ubiquitous hits have aged as well

"Sex and Candy" reeked like a damp sock in 1998.

No argument. I associate it with that Sixpence song and a few others that seemed to follow me everywhere I went the year it was released

Speaking from somewhere where it was only a minor hit (UK #29 but completely forgotten) I think Sex and Candy mystifies me more than any other US one hit wonder. It's so tuneless and comatose and it turned up very late.

Let me tell you about Wheatus