Beth Orton: Classic or Dud?

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I was/am looking forward to seeing her live in November; the last time I saw her was after Daybreaker and she was good but it was a radio station sponsored show with a bunch of yahoos at it and the crowd really ruined it for me. HOWEVER: checked out some recent youtubes and wow her voice is in very very bad shape. It sounds rough on the album, but sandpaper rough, in a good way; but dare I say the clips I saw of her live she wounds significantly worse than even bryan ferry did live this week. Is this the effect of whatever medication she's started due to her epilepsy?

akm, Saturday, 1 October 2022 18:19 (one year ago) link

The last YouTube's I saw ahead of this new album was the tour with Mercury Rev where she sang all the Bobbie Gentry tracks, mostly from "The Delta Sweete" and she sounded fine there.

Mark G, Saturday, 1 October 2022 21:07 (one year ago) link

I really think her sightly ragged vocals on Weather Alive are what really make the album.

The Ghost Club, Saturday, 1 October 2022 22:24 (one year ago) link

Slightly*

The Ghost Club, Saturday, 1 October 2022 22:24 (one year ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYH1JG-7Hj0

akm, Saturday, 1 October 2022 22:49 (one year ago) link

this isn't abjectly terrible, but she's displaying some significant degradation in her vocal abilities; there are some more recent ones with a band that are more troubling. some of it also seems kind of like nervousness (her hands seem to be trembling as well), so maybe this will improve as she plays out more again.

akm, Saturday, 1 October 2022 22:51 (one year ago) link

yeah on recent live videos her voice is very very rough. she made the it work on the album at least

ufo, Saturday, 1 October 2022 23:43 (one year ago) link

“This is how I sing. This is my voice now,” she said. “This is who I am and this is what life has made of me.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/21/arts/music/beth-orton-weather-alive.html?smid=url-share&fbclid=IwAR04XuzWFeXkOcEivXxBfgQC2orGuFi6xDTeGCYYpwgchSmQJM0zs1pZBAc

Thus Sang Freud, Saturday, 1 October 2022 23:56 (one year ago) link

Ach, paywalled

Mark G, Sunday, 2 October 2022 21:14 (one year ago) link

https://archive.ph/ivmzW

doug watson, Sunday, 2 October 2022 21:19 (one year ago) link

this isn't abjectly terrible, but she's displaying some significant degradation in her vocal abilities; there are some more recent ones with a band that are more troubling. some of it also seems kind of like nervousness (her hands seem to be trembling as well), so maybe this will improve as she plays out more again.

― akm, Saturday, October 1, 2022 11:51 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

i'm sorry but this is a bizarre post. she seems fully in control of her abilities in that video to me.

ꙮ (map), Sunday, 2 October 2022 21:21 (one year ago) link

Has some good Marianne Faithfull vibes. Had me wanting to put on Destroyer’s “Kaputt” and some Blue Nile right after.

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Sunday, 9 October 2022 01:07 (one year ago) link

wow I love this album

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 18 October 2022 19:22 (one year ago) link

it is something else. edged out the shearwater album in number of plays this year for me; they're very similar in ways.

akm, Tuesday, 18 October 2022 20:21 (one year ago) link

Does the melody of 'Friday Night' remind anyone else of Springsteen's 'Incident on 57th Street?'.

aphoristical, Tuesday, 25 October 2022 22:08 (one year ago) link

I get Downtown Train

fetter, Wednesday, 26 October 2022 07:34 (one year ago) link

album of the year for sure

flopson, Thursday, 27 October 2022 20:27 (one year ago) link

xxpost it's After the Gold Rush isn't it?

ascai, Thursday, 27 October 2022 20:31 (one year ago) link

I hear ATG on (some of) the verses, and DT on the chorus; "well, I've been dreaming" certainly could be a deliberate nod to the former

rob, Thursday, 27 October 2022 21:05 (one year ago) link

three weeks pass...

amazing live show. i'd say catch it but apparently it was the last night of the tour

i lucked out and caught it on a complete whim. i was on a cross-town bus on my way home around 8pm, saw her name on the marquee through the window, got out at the next stop and bought a ticket

person sitting next to me was a middle-aged dude who'd also come alone, and had a bouquet of flowers in the seat next to him which he gave to beth when she took the stage. he sang along to all the older material and repeated "wow. superstar. wow" to himself in between each song

her band were incredible and completely adorable. beth is the cool gen x aunt leading a group of shaggy group of sick chops millenials

she played the whole new album, and a bunch of back catalogue stuff. took requests and played some stuff solo too. the last song of the encore was a super rocking version of "shopping trolley" off comfort of strangers, which she says she regrets never touring (since she "got preggo" right after it came out)

flopson, Wednesday, 23 November 2022 07:32 (one year ago) link

lovely write-up

meat and two vdgg (emsworth), Wednesday, 23 November 2022 09:03 (one year ago) link

I love the idea that someone might get so much enjoyment from an artist that they'd be thinking "Wow. Superstar. Wow", though I do wonder how the artist might feel about someone bringing flowers (not that practical, unless it was their home-town show ... and maybe not even then).

djh, Wednesday, 23 November 2022 20:54 (one year ago) link

Note: love this album while not thinking of myself as a massive Beth Orton fan.

djh, Wednesday, 23 November 2022 20:55 (one year ago) link

yeah I saw her SF show and it was excellent, and my concerns about her voice not quite holding up were mostly unfounded, I think it's gotten stronger with this tour and the new album held up surprisingly well when performed live.

akm, Thursday, 24 November 2022 16:18 (one year ago) link

eight months pass...

Nice conversation between Beth and Alabaster DePlume: https://www.talkhouse.com/beth-orton-talks-with-alabaster-deplume-on-the-talkhouse-podcast/

(picnic, lightning) very very frightening (Chinaski), Friday, 18 August 2023 16:08 (eight months ago) link


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