Shame a show trying so hard not to be racist is so weighed down with the concept of blood guilt.
― Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Wednesday, 28 September 2022 00:54 (one year ago) link
lenny henry as sauron: i am totally into the idea that the One Ring is actually only ever large enough to fit on a halfling's finger
the evidence? smeagol! bilbo! frodo! lenny henry as sauron! NO ONE ELSE
all the images of a towering dark fiery armoured figure are elvish and/or numenorean propaganda! you couldn't see how big he was when he wore it and after isidur cut if off the massed armies of gil galad (aka pil galad) and etc weren't going to say "and it turned out he was tiny and scurried away into the bushes!")
― mark s, Wednesday, 28 September 2022 10:31 (one year ago) link
“three rings for the elven-kings under the sky,seven for the dwarf-lords in their halls of stone,nine for mortal men, doomed to die,and a wee one for the Dark Lord on his tiny tiny throne"
― mark s, Wednesday, 28 September 2022 10:39 (one year ago) link
Not sure if this was already posted but looks like we might be finding out this week
Evil reveals itself. #TheRingsOfPower only on @PrimeVideo. pic.twitter.com/UTM2w7ZhPF— The Lord of the Rings on Prime (@LOTRonPrime) September 23, 2022
― groovypanda, Wednesday, 28 September 2022 10:45 (one year ago) link
that's number seven
― mark s, Wednesday, 28 September 2022 11:03 (one year ago) link
Finding this a very pretty, silly & chill thing to watch (entry stance: cool on Tolkien generally, actively dislike his high style, don't much care about the lore).
Absolutely love Morfydd Clark, just hypnotically watchable or maybe listenable - surprising vowels and stresses and then so good at the trilled 'r's. Her expressions are good too, so it can't all be down to that, but I go a bit ecoutez-repetez when she delivers a line in a way I enjoy. Obviously do not watch this me, I am annoying.
otoh can't really get over the issue that's briefly mentioned upthread: is this thing (I'd assume unintentionally) saying that hobbits evolved from Irish/Irish Traveller primitive foragers into stout yeoman Middle Englanders? I'm not exploring ~the discourse~ outside this thread but are people generally ok with that, or happy treating it as mildly insensitive accident? I could probably swallow the oirish nonsense if that evolution didn't seem implicit.
― woof, Wednesday, 28 September 2022 11:43 (one year ago) link
if we turn to the EXTANT LORE *everyone screams*: the shire hobbits and the anduin-based harfoots are iirc already from distinct strains of some long-lost ur-halfling type?
ie the latter didn't migrate west and settle down to become the former, they simply dwindled (= eaten by orcs, ents, beorn, durin's folk, teleporno)
― mark s, Wednesday, 28 September 2022 12:28 (one year ago) link
ok cool I'll take it
― woof, Wednesday, 28 September 2022 13:25 (one year ago) link
*pushes up glasses* The Shirefolk are a blend of strains, these being the Harfoots, the Stoors, and the Fallohides.
So presumably the show-Harfoots are meant to be the ancestors of Frodo & co. but only one branch. I'm a bit curious if we'll ever see the other branches.
― feed me with your chips (zchyrs), Wednesday, 28 September 2022 13:26 (one year ago) link
so in fact some shire hobbits may be eligible for a harfoot passport. Thank you, this is becoming clearer.
― woof, Wednesday, 28 September 2022 13:35 (one year ago) link
Hey, applicability not allegory, buddy. (But I kid the etc.)
We at the podcast couldn't agree more.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 28 September 2022 15:15 (one year ago) link
Absolutely love Morfydd Clark, just hypnotically watchable or maybe listenable - surprising vowels and stresses and then so good at the trilled 'r's. Her expressions are good too, so it can't all be down to that, but I go a bit ecoutez-repetez when she delivers a line in a way I enjoy.
well, there is a tempest in her and the tempest is always right
― scanner darkly, Wednesday, 28 September 2022 19:41 (one year ago) link
so sauron mistake was basically pissing off hobbits by not creating a ring for them which forced them to take his instead and then destroy it out of spite
― scanner darkly, Wednesday, 28 September 2022 20:08 (one year ago) link
Amazing. This was simultaneously the consistently best episode and the absolute dumbest fucking thing.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 30 September 2022 05:11 (one year ago) link
stoked for the pukelmen
― mark s, Friday, 30 September 2022 15:21 (one year ago) link
Ned otm
― mh, Friday, 30 September 2022 18:08 (one year ago) link
So the sword hilt was basically a giant pair of scissors for the Mount Doom ribbon cutting?
― Jaime Pressly and America (f. hazel), Friday, 30 September 2022 20:59 (one year ago) link
why does the big goblin not simply eat the smaller arondir
― mark s, Friday, 30 September 2022 21:05 (one year ago) link
stop just throwing him around you horrible doofus
― mark s, Friday, 30 September 2022 21:06 (one year ago) link
watch out teleporno, theo is horny for galadriel
― mark s, Friday, 30 September 2022 21:45 (one year ago) link
well this took a turn
― mark s, Friday, 30 September 2022 21:57 (one year ago) link
i like it now
(if they have killed everyone except Galadriel I will tbh be pretty impressed - off Nori next week then "1000 years later: We've named you after Emperor Pharazon who we've excised from the history books")
Also finally a reason for that one significant Southlander!
― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 30 September 2022 22:04 (one year ago) link
We were talking earlier today about the fact that no-one is horny (which is kind of true to the Jackson films - horniness is the province of orcs, Wormtongue, Denethor (for cherry tomatoes) and at best Boromir for the ring (provided you feel guilty afterwards). Galadriel is properly horny for a good scrap, at least.
Also no-one is funny, which is obv more of a crime.
― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 30 September 2022 22:07 (one year ago) link
King Halbrand, ruled from the third day of Gwirith SA 1503, until half past 3.
― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 30 September 2022 22:11 (one year ago) link
eowyn was fairly horny iirc
― mark s, Friday, 30 September 2022 22:13 (one year ago) link
anyway while i'm not remotely convinced they have the chops to work with it -- the writing in this ep was if possible the worst yet -- the introduction of the moriandor (and galadriel going mask off)* is potentially actually p fvcking interesting
*turns out she's number seven
― mark s, Friday, 30 September 2022 22:23 (one year ago) link
I'm no geologist but I'm p sure that's not how volcanoes work
― feed me with your chips (zchyrs), Friday, 30 September 2022 22:46 (one year ago) link
just stick in the key & rev up mt doomi mean of course why not
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 1 October 2022 05:27 (one year ago) link
My understanding (from the noises made by the planetary scientist next to me) is that dumping a load of water in will definitely kill the village next to it - going full Matrix on the skies for 1000 years, maybe not.
― Andrew Farrell, Saturday, 1 October 2022 07:55 (one year ago) link
waldreg's cunning plan: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Garita_Caldera
we literally see the water cascading into a caldera so i don't think the idea of a massive explosion is wrong even if the engineering seems a bit hopeful* -- and mount tambora in 1815 certainly caused the "year without a summer" round the other side of the world
(long-term atmosphere shift in mordor would be caused by orodruin not then being turned off again) (the engineering of a long-term plumbing control system more hopeful still tho as much of it is MAGIC as wood-built sluices)
*"we here at Sauron Devices don't just make pretty little rings!"
― mark s, Saturday, 1 October 2022 08:26 (one year ago) link
sorry this is wildly spoilery, i am excite (also amused)
― mark s, Saturday, 1 October 2022 08:27 (one year ago) link
hobbit-era peter jackson wd have made the key a wind-up and the machinery some comically clockwork chitty chitty bang bang shit
turns out i miss that guy :D
― mark s, Saturday, 1 October 2022 08:35 (one year ago) link
The initial "turn the key and the blocks move" reminded me of old-school over-respecter of ancient empires The Mysterious Cities of Gold.
― Andrew Farrell, Saturday, 1 October 2022 08:56 (one year ago) link
durin's folk just raging at the IP theft going on here
― mark s, Saturday, 1 October 2022 09:03 (one year ago) link
dwarrowpunk
― mark s, Saturday, 1 October 2022 09:05 (one year ago) link
Series has kind of gone full on “Let’s just make up some wild s—-“ and I’m kinda still here for it. Galadriel actress and visuals are carrying this entire thing, let’s be real.
― SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 1 October 2022 20:21 (one year ago) link
this ep was kinda gorey too with the whole eye thing
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 1 October 2022 20:23 (one year ago) link
idk its all a bit naff but weirdly relaxing
I haven't seen a minute of this show but thanks to this thread I am confident I could summarise it for a fellow non-watcher:
1. Extended history of elves standing on boats2. Some people get horny3. Volcano blows up
― TWELVE Michelob stars?!? (seandalai), Saturday, 1 October 2022 20:30 (one year ago) link
i think u secretly are watching
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 1 October 2022 20:32 (one year ago) link
A haunting familiarity.
I'd name a couple other actors too but that is about the size of it.
Our next episode is on Monday and we have some initial thoughts as of five episodes in. The full vivisection will yet follow.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 2 October 2022 00:40 (one year ago) link
I want to like The Rings of Power, I am a huge Tolkien fan, but this deathless guff is making me cheer for the Cockney Orcs pic.twitter.com/tHkqW34PHN— Bill Bailey (@BillBailey) October 2, 2022
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 2 October 2022 15:20 (one year ago) link
bill b not paying good attention this ep: galadriel is sauron #7
― mark s, Sunday, 2 October 2022 15:22 (one year ago) link
Boooooooooof I watched a single elf take town an entire Orc tower invasion and turned to bf and said "I'm getting off this train" and fell asleep on the sofa
― land of nope and sorry (flamboyant goon tie included), Sunday, 2 October 2022 15:42 (one year ago) link
Healthy approach!
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 2 October 2022 15:44 (one year ago) link
This series is Tolkien's New Jersey
― Jaime Pressly and America (f. hazel), Sunday, 2 October 2022 15:44 (one year ago) link
eh im tolkin' here
― mark s, Sunday, 2 October 2022 15:47 (one year ago) link
All you do to me is tolk tolk
― realistic pillow (Jon not Jon), Sunday, 2 October 2022 16:23 (one year ago) link
^one Tolk over the line
― stank viola (Neanderthal), Sunday, 2 October 2022 16:37 (one year ago) link