pitchfork is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)

this isn't necessarily a bad thing! (perhaps 'what's up' really has stood the test of time.) but it feels like the sort of list i might make if forced to rank the 60s

'well, we need some country, how about the ballad of the green berets?'

SONGS ON THE 2022 LIST BUT NOT ON THE 2010 LIST (2022 RANK)

1. Mariah Carey: "Fantasy (Remix)" [ft. Ol' Dirty Bastard] (1995)
8. Destiny's Child: "Say My Name" (1999)
11. Daft Punk: "Around the World" (1997)
14. Fiona Apple: "Criminal" (1996)
17. Portishead: "Sour Times" (1994)
23. Cher: "Believe" (1998)
25. A Tribe Called Quest: "Can I Kick It?" (1990)
28. Britney Spears: "...Baby One More Time" (1998)
29. Massive Attack: "Teardrop" (1998)
30. Brandy / Monica: "The Boy Is Mine" (1998)
32. TLC: "No Scrubs" (1999)
33. Alanis Morissette: "You Oughta Know" (1995)
35. Lauryn Hill: "Ex-Factor" (1998)
36. Aaliyah: "One in a Million" (1996)
38. Fiona Apple: "Paper Bag" (1999)
42. Sade: "No Ordinary Love" (1992)
43. The Cranberries: "Dreams" (1992)
45. 2Pac: "California Love" [ft. Dr. Dre and Roger Troutman] (1996)
46. Orbital: "Halcyon + On + On" (1993)
48. Digable Planets: "Rebirth of Slick (Cool Like Dat)" (1992)
49. Mariah Carey: "Always Be My Baby" (1995)
50. Janet Jackson: "If" (1993)
51. Le Tigre: "Deceptacon" (1999)
52. Juvenile: "Back That Azz Up" [ft. Mannie Fresh and Lil Wayne] (1999)
53. Frankie Knuckles: "The Whistle Song" (1991)
55. Madonna: "Ray of Light" (1998)
58. A Tribe Called Quest: "Scenario" (1991)
59. Whitney Houston: "I Will Always Love You" (1992)
60. Moodymann: "Shades of Jae" (1999)
61. Built to Spill: "Carry the Zero" (1999)
65. Elliott Smith: "Between the Bars" (1997)
66. DMX: "Ruff Ryders' Anthem" (1998)
67. Robin S.: "Show Me Love" (1993)
70. Everything But the Girl: "Missing (Todd Terry Remix)" (1995)
72. Natalie Imbruglia: "Torn" (1997)
75. Annie Lennox: "Walking on Broken Glass" (1992)
79. Dr. Dre: "Still D.R.E." [ft. Snoop Dogg] (1999)
80. Pépé Bradock: "Deep Burnt" (1999)
81. The Chicks: "Wide Open Spaces" (1998)
82. Radiohead: "Karma Police" (1997)
83. Innerzone Orchestra: "Bug in the Bass Bin" (1996)
84. Erykah Badu: "Tyrone (Live)" (1997)
85. OutKast: "Rosa Parks" (1998)
86. Sleater-Kinney: "One More Hour" (1997)
87. CeCe Peniston: "Finally" (1991) 
89. Camp Lo: "Luchini AKA This Is It" (1997)
90. Sonic Youth: "Kool Thing" (1990)
91. Busta Rhymes: "Put Your Hands Where My Eyes Could See" (1997)
92. Chaka Demus / Pliers: "Murder She Wrote" (1992) 
93. Björk: "Human Behaviour" (1993)
95. Queen Latifah: "U.N.I.T.Y." (1993)
96. Toni Braxton: "You're Makin' Me High" (1996)
98. The Notorious B.I.G.: "Mo Money Mo Problems" [ft. Puff Daddy and Mase] (1997)
99. Selena: "Bidi Bidi Bom Bom" (1994)
102. Master P: "Make 'Em Say Uhh!" [ft. Fiend, Silkk the Shocker, Mia X, and Mystikal] (1998)
104. Adina Howard: "Freak Like Me" (1995)
105. The Aztec Mystic: "Knights of the Jaguar" (1999)
107. Fugees: "Killing Me Softly" (1996)
108. Crystal Waters: "Gypsy Woman (She's Homeless)" (1991)
110. Janet Jackson: "Together Again" (1997)
115. Madonna: "Vogue" (1990)
117. Dawn Penn: "You Don't Love Me (No, No, No)" (1994)
118. Rage Against the Machine: "Killing in the Name" (1992)
119. Salt-N-Pepa: "Shoop" (1993)
121. Radiohead: "Let Down" (1997)
122. Method Man: "I'll Be There for You/You're All I Need to Get By" [ft. Mary J. Blige] (1995)
124. Silver Jews: "Wild Kindness" (1998)
125. Goldie: "Inner City Life" (1994)
126. 2Pac: "Keep Ya Head Up" (1993)
127. Shania Twain: "Man! I Feel Like a Woman!" (1997)
128. MF DOOM: "Rhymes Like Dimes" (1999)
129. Green Day: "Basket Case" (1994)
130. Jeff Mills: "The Bells" (1997)
131. Fugees: "Ready or Not" (1996)
132. Sonic Youth: "Tunic (Song for Karen)" (1990)
133. The Roots: "You Got Me" [ft. Erykah Badu and Eve] (1999)
134. k.d. lang: "Constant Craving" (1992)
135. Craig Mack: "Flava in Ya Ear (Remix)" [ft. The Notorious B.I.G., LL Cool J, Rampage, and Busta Rhymes] (1994)
136. Pavement: "Summer Babe" (1992)
137. OutKast: "Elevators (Me & You)" (1996)
138. Soho: "Hot Music" (1990)
140. Nirvana: "All Apologies" (1993)
141. Ice Cube: "It Was a Good Day" (1992)
142. Beltram: "Energy Flash" (1990)
143. Elliott Smith: "Say Yes" (1997)
144. Sheryl Crow: "If It Makes You Happy" (1996)
145. The Notorious B.I.G.: "Hypnotize" (1997)
146. Janet Jackson: "That's the Way Love Goes" (1993)
147. Neil Young: "Harvest Moon" (1992)
149. Elastica: "Connection" (1994)
150. Three 6 Mafia: "Tear Da Club Up" (1997)
151. Origin Unknown: "Valley of the Shadows" (1993)
153. En Vogue: "Free Your Mind" (1992)
157. The Cure: "Friday I'm in Love" (1992)
158. No Doubt: "Just a Girl" (1995)
159. Public Enemy: "Welcome to the Terrordome" (1990)
162. R.E.M.: "Losing My Religion" (1991)
163. Big Pun: "Still Not a Player" (1998)
164. Smashing Pumpkins: "Mayonaise" (1993)
165. Galaxy 2 Galaxy: "Jupiter Jazz" (1993)
166. De La Soul: "Stakes Is High" (1990)
167. Oasis: "Don't Look Back in Anger" (1995)
168. Beenie Man: "Who Am I" (1998)
169. Ace of Base: "The Sign" (1993)
170. Puff Daddy: "All About the Benjamins" [ft. the Notorious B.I.G., Lil' Kim, Jadakiss, and The Lox] (1997)
171. Slowdive: "Alison" (1993)
173. Elliott Smith: "Waltz #2 (XO)" (1998)
176. The Prodigy: "Firestarter" (1997)
177. Garth Brooks: "Friends in Low Places" (1990)
179. Metallica: "Enter Sandman" (1991)
180. Usher: "You Make Me Wanna…" (1997)
181. Dr. Octagon: "Blue Flowers" (1996)
182. Spice Girls: "Wannabe" (1996)
183. Yo-Yo: "You Can't Play With My Yo-Yo" [ft. Ice Cube] (1991)
185. SWV: "Right Here (Human Nature Remix)" (1992)
187. Double 99: "Ripgroove" (1997)
188. Cocteau Twins: "Cherry-Coloured Funk" (1990)
189. Groove Theory: "Tell Me" (1995)
191. My Bloody Valentine: "When You Sleep" (1991)
192. Tony! Toni! Toné!: "Feels Good" (1990)
193. Aimee Mann: "Save Me" (1999)
195. Björk: "Venus as a Boy" (1993)
196. Fiona Apple: "Sleep to Dream" (1996)
197. L7: "Pretend We're Dead" (1992)
200. Maxwell: "Ascension (Don't Ever Wonder)" (1996)
201. Hole: "Doll Parts" (1994)
204. Da Brat: "Funkdafied" (1994)
206. Mark Morrison: "Return of the Mack" (1996)
207. Teenage Fanclub: "The Concept" (1991)
208. Belly: "Feed the Tree" (1993)
209. The KLF: "3 a.m. Eternal (Live at the S.S.L.)" (1991)
210. Temple of the Dog: "Hunger Strike" (1991)
211. Whitney Houston: "I'm Every Woman" (1992)
212. 4 Non Blondes: "What's Up?" (1990)
213. Lil' Kim: "Big Momma Thang" (1996)
214. Garbage: "Stupid Girl" (1995)
216. Blink-182: "Dammit" (1997)
217. Shanice: "I Love Your Smile" (1991)
218. Third Eye Blind: "Semi-Charmed Life" (1997)
219. Elvis Crespo: "Suavemente" (1999)
221. Veruca Salt: "Seether" (1994)
222. RuPaul: "Supermodel (You Better Work)" (1992)
228. Soundgarden: "Black Hole Sun" (1994)
231. Celine Dion: "It's All Coming Back to Me Now" (1996)
233. Cypress Hill: "How I Could Just Kill a Man" (1991)
234. Korn: "Freak on a Leash" (1999)
235. Tracy Chapman: "Give Me One Reason" (1995)
237. Gin Blossoms: "Hey Jealousy" (1992)
238. Blur: "Song 2" (1997)
240. Pearl Jam: "Corduroy" (1994)
241. Robyn: "Show Me Love" (1995)
242. Naughty by Nature: "Feel Me Flow" (1995)
243. Dismemberment Plan: "You Are Invited" (1999)
244. Deborah Cox: "Nobody's Supposed to Be Here" (1998)
246. Wilson Phillips: "Hold On" (1990)
247. Fugazi: "Smallpox Champion" (1993)
248. Ani DiFranco: "Both Hands" (1990)
249. Wu-Tang Clan: "Triumph" (1997)

SONGS ON THE 2010 LIST BUT NOT ON THE 2022 LIST (2010 RANK)

5. Wu-Tang Clan – "Protect Ya Neck"
7. Neutral Milk Hotel – "Holland, 1945"
18. Daft Punk – "Da Funk"
23. Spiritualized – "Ladies and Gentlemen We Are Floating in Space"
24. Built to Spill – "Car"
27. Elliott Smith – "Needle in the Hay"
28. Nas – "It Ain't Hard to Tell"
30. The Flaming Lips – "Race for the Prize"
34. New Order – "Regret"
43. The Chemical Brothers (feat. Noel Gallagher) – "Setting Sun"
50. Oasis – "Live Forever"
51. Public Enemy – "Brothers Gonna Work It Out"
52. The Stone Roses – "I Wanna Be Adored"
54. Portishead – "Glory Box"
56. Godspeed You Black Emperor! – "Moya"
57. The Beta Band – "Dry the Rain"
58. Fugazi – "Repeater"
60. Sonic Youth – "100%"
61. Pixies – "Alec Eiffel"
63. Modest Mouse – "Trailer Trash"
64. The Dismemberment Plan – "The City"
68. Saint Etienne – "Avenue"
69. Basement Jaxx – "Red Alert"
70. Boards of Canada – "Roygbiv"
73. Disco Inferno – "Love Stepping Out"
75. Jim O'Rourke – "Halfway to a Threeway"
77. Archers of Loaf – "Web in Front"
80. The KLF – "Wichita Lineman Was a Song I Once Heard"
83. Sleater-Kinney – "Dig Me Out"
85. Air – "All I Need"
89. Smog – "Teenage Spaceship"
91. Jeff Buckley – "Last Goodbye"
93. Dinosaur Jr. – "Start Choppin'"
94. Stereolab – "French Disko"
96. Primal Scream – "Higher Than the Sun"
98. Elastica – "Stutter"
101. Snoop Doggy Dogg – "Gin & Juice"
102. The Magnetic Fields – "Book of Love"
103. Silver Jews – "Random Rules"
105. Happy Mondays – "Kinky Afro"
107. 2Pac (feat. Shock G and Money-B) – "I Get Around"
109. Tortoise – "Djed"
110. Common Sense – "I Used to Love H.E.R."
115. Black Sheep – "The Choice is Yours (Revisited)"
116. The House Crew – Euphoria (Nino's Dream)
117. Black Star (feat. Common) – "Respiration"
118. Morrissey – "Now My Heart Is Full"
122. Tricky – "Christiansands"
123. The Jesus Lizard – "Mouth Breather"
124. James – "Laid"
125. Spacehog – "In the Meantime"
126. Huggy Bear – "Her Jazz"
127. Digital Underground – "The Humpty Dance"
128. Supergrass – "Caught By the Fuzz"
131. Unrest – "Make Out Club"
132. Ice Cube – "Wicked"
133. Pearl Jam – "Yellow Ledbetter"
134. Moby – "Go"
135. Super Furry Animals – "Ice Hockey Hair"
137. Pet Shop Boys – "Being Boring"
138. The Lemonheads – "It's a Shame About Ray"
140. Guns N' Roses – "November Rain"
143. The Olivia Tremor Control – "Hideaway"
145. Ride – "Vapour Trail"
146. Julee Cruise – "Falling"
147. The Future Sound of London – "Papua New Guinea"
148. Slint – "Good Morning, Captain"
149. Matthew Sweet – "Girlfriend"
150. Fatboy Slim – "Praise You"
151. Green Day – "Longview"
152. Jane's Addiction – "Stop!"
153. The Clientele – "We Could Walk Together"
154. Pharoahe Monch – "Simon Says"
155. Destiny's Child – "Bills, Bills, Bills"
156. Omni Trio – Renegade Snares (Foul Play VIP Mix)
157. Juvenile – "Ha"
158. White Town – "Your Woman"
159. The Roots – "The Next Movement"
160. Mogwai – "Mogwai Fear Satan"
162. Red House Painters – "Katy Song"
163. The Afghan Whigs – "Gentlemen"
164. The Auteurs – "Unsolved Child Murder"
167. Apollo Two – Atlantis (I Need You) (LTJ Bukem Remix)
169. Suede – "We Are the Pigs"
171. Black Box – "Everybody Everybody"
173. Shudder to Think – "X-French Tee Shirt"
174. The Boo Radleys – "Lazarus"
175. Stone Temple Pilots – "Interstate Love Song"
176. Orbital – "Chime"
177. Boredoms – "Super Are"
179. Field Mice – "Missing the Moon"
180. The Jon Spencer Blues Explosion – "Bellbottoms"
181. Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds – "Red Right Hand"
182. Opus III – It's a Fine Day (Club Remix)
183. Mercury Rev – "Holes"
184. The Cure – "A Letter to Elise"
185. Herbert and Dani Siciliano – So Now...
187. Arab Strap – "The First Big Weekend"
188. Halo Benders – "Virginia Reel Around the Fountain"
191. Digable Planets – "9th Wonder (Blackitolism)"
192. Harvey Danger – "Flagpole Sitta"
193. Positive K – "I Got a Man"
195. Cutty Ranks – "Limb By Limb"
196. Tindersticks – "City Sickness"
197. Danzig – "Mother '93"
198. Dillinja – "The Angels Fell"
199. Lambchop – "Your Fucking Sunny Day"
200. Transformer 2 – "Fruit of Love (Techno Mix)"

BIGGEST JUMPS (2022 RANK / PLACES JUMPED SINCE 2010)

4. Liz Phair: "Fuck and Run" (+83)
12. Lauryn Hill: "Doo Wop (That Thing)" (+83)
26. Ginuwine: "Pony" (+78)
111. Isolée: "Beau Mot Plage" (+75)
16. George Michael: "Freedom! '90" (+63)
54. TLC: "Creep" (+60)
10. Bikini Kill: "Rebel Girl" (+57)
57. Daniel Johnston: "Some Things Last a Long Time" (+55)
62. Warren G / Nate Dogg: "Regulate" (+46)
44. D'Angelo: "Brown Sugar" (+32)
5. Missy Elliott: "The Rain (Supa Dupa Fly)" (+28)
39. Mary J. Blige: "Real Love" (+26)
74. Ghost Town DJ's: "My Boo" (+25)
68. Hole: "Violet" (+24)
56. Erykah Badu: "On & On" (+22)
19. Sinéad O'Connor: "Nothing Compares 2 U" (+18)
21. Beastie Boys: "Sabotage" (+18)
47. Deee-Lite: "Groove Is in the Heart" (+12)
20. Underworld: "Born Slippy (Nuxx)" (+11)
31. Nine Inch Nails: "Closer" (+11)
73. Bone Thugs-N-Harmony: "Tha Crossroads" (+11)
15. Mobb Deep: "Shook Ones, Pt. II" (+10)
2. Björk: "Hyperballad" (+9)
37. Stardust: "Music Sounds Better With You" (+9)
63. Arthur Russell: "This Is How We Walk on the Moon" (+8)
6. Nirvana: "Smells Like Teen Spirit" (+7)
13. Mazzy Star: "Fade Into You" (+6)
3. Aaliyah: "Are You That Somebody?" (+5)
7. Aphex Twin: "Windowlicker" (+5)
9. The Notorious B.I.G.: "Juicy" (+5)
41. Geto Boys: "Mind Playing Tricks on Me" (+4)
64. The Cardigans: "Lovefool" (+2)

EXACT SAME RANK IN 2010 AND 2022

22. The Breeders: "Cannonball" (--)
161. Kelis: "Caught Out There" (--)

BIGGEST DROPS (2022 RANK / PLACES DROPPED SINCE 2010)

220. Blur: "Girls & Boys" (-194)
239. JAY-Z: "Dead Presidents II" (-177)
215. Blackstreet: "No Diggity" [ft. Dr. Dre and Queen Pen] (-133)
186. Ghostface Killah: "Daytona 500" [ft. Raekwon, Cappadonna, and Force M.D.s] (-131)
250. Len: "Steal My Sunshine" (-131)
224. Luniz: "I Got 5 on It" (-127)
155. The Verve: "Bitter Sweet Symphony" (-126)
230. Cornershop: "Brimful of Asha" (-117)
223. The La's: "There She Goes" (-112)
160. Yo La Tengo: "Autumn Sweater" (-111)
184. Wilco: "Via Chicago" (-110)
156. De La Soul: "A Rollerskating Jam Named ‘Saturdays'" (-103)
120. DJ Shadow: "Midnight in a Perfect World" (-100)
205. New Radicals: "You Get What You Give" (-99)
225. Jawbox: "Savory" (-95)
103. Weezer: "Say It Ain't So" (-93)
109. Belle and Sebastian: "The State I Am In" (-92)
106. Depeche Mode: "Enjoy the Silence" (-91)
232. Brian Eno / John Cale: "Lay My Love" (-91)
97. Beck: "Loser" (-88)
227. Goodie Mob: "Cell Therapy" (-85)
114. Bonnie "Prince" Billy: "I See a Darkness" (-82)
101. Smashing Pumpkins: "1979" (-80)
116. The Pharcyde: "Passin' Me By" (-75)
175. Galaxie 500: "Fourth of July" (-75)
203. Cat Power: "Cross Bones Style" (-74)
78. My Bloody Valentine: "Only Shallow" (-72)
152. Superchunk: "Slack Motherfucker" (-71)
100. The Orb: "Little Fluffy Clouds" (-60)
198. Acen: "Trip II the Moon (Pt. 1 and 2)" (-59)
94. Guided by Voices: "Game of Pricks" (-58)
202. Mos Def: "Ms. Fat Booty" (-58)
226. Alice in Chains: "Would?" (-58)
236. Broadcast: "Echo's Answer" (-58)
178. Raekwon: "Ice Cream" [ft. Method Man, Ghostface Killah, and Cappadonna] (-57)
245. Refused: "New Noise" (-55)
139. Souls of Mischief: "93 'Til Infinity" (-51)
88. Massive Attack: "Unfinished Sympathy" (-44)
113. R.E.M.: "Nightswimming" (-41)
40. Pavement: "Gold Soundz" (-39)
77. A Tribe Called Quest: "Check the Rhime" (-39)
123. Bell Biv DeVoe: "Poison" (-37)
71. Pete Rock / C.L. Smooth: "They Reminisce Over You (T.R.O.Y.)" (-36)
229. Boyz II Men: "Motownphilly" (-35)
199. Helium: "Pat's Trick" (-34)
76. PJ Harvey: "Rid of Me" (-29)
148. Eminem: "My Name Is..." (-28)
27. Dr. Dre: "Nuthin' But a ‘G' Thang" [ft. Snoop Dogg] (-24)
112. Ol' Dirty Bastard: "Got Your Money" [ft. Kelis] (-22)
69. Foo Fighters: "Everlong" (-21)
24. Radiohead: "Paranoid Android" (-20)
34. OutKast: "SpottieOttieDopaliscious" (-18)
154. UGK: "One Day" (-18)
190. Gang Starr: "Mass Appeal" (-18)
18. Pulp: "Common People" (-16)
172. En Vogue: "My Lovin' (You're Never Gonna Get It)" (-6)
194. The Sundays: "Here's Where the Story Ends" (-5)
174. Noreaga: "Superthug" (-4)

Wow.

classic jaymc <3

R.I.P. "Flagpole Sitta"

xp lol I saw Josh's post upthread and couldn't help myself

we know

Seeing it laid out like that, it's funny that it's really just taking out a bunch of dogshit indie rock music that sucks and replacing it with a bunch of dogshit pop music that sucks. Truly lateral move.

Like forcing me to choose between the canon being Shania Twain or Olivia Tremor Control is truly a lose-lose proposition

"It Ain't Hard to Tell" dropping off the list entirely is a little surprising

the trolly problem but it's me at the center having to pick between Lambchop and Third Eye Blind

lmao

Whiney please read the Smells Like Teen Spirit entry

The 2010 list also had the notable difference of not allowing an artist to show up more than once on the list.

two of my favorite bands of all time

xxp to whiney

ets reshuffle the canon, sound off about whos underrated & overrated, and toss in a few challopsy inclusions to stir the pot

was just saying we should take "Protect Ya Neck" out of the canon to make more room for Garth Brooks

nothing more, this is just a funny juxtaposition of takes.

another giving credit where it's due observation: love all the hiphop representation. dunno about numbers, but it feels like there's more than ever. can't be too upset about that.

Biggest shift there is a lot more rap & r&b and a lot less indie rock, which I guess is good? idk.
Funniest thing is the change in Oasis placements, Live Forever was #50, now it's out? Don't Look Back in Anger DNP in 2010, now is their sole entry at #167? Don't Look Back In Anger? Really?

Brad it's well established that you swing unpredictably between "the best taste on ILX" and "the worst taste on ILX"

Thinking about the albums list now. The current one is ancient (2003) - itself a remake of an older one (1999) - and has two Brianiac albums on it.

nothing more, this is just a funny juxtaposition of takes

*juxtaposition of faux takes

xxp also you totally have one thousand favorite bands <3

Just another person here to say that Bikini Kill do, in fact, suck— and I like a lot of other riot grrl and punk stuff.

it’s true, i do Love Music

I also am going to be that faggot and say that I do not understand the love for Mariah Carey— I find “Fantasy” about as annoying as a song can get.

But I’m also just someone who has never really understood the love for vapid brainwash music that sells millions of records, and resent the fact that I’m considered a “bad fag” or “anti-populist” when I say so. Sorry!

big mariah fan but crap #1 imo

xp
do you feel like screaming "what's going on?"

I realize I should know better by now, but kind of crazy how so many people still here in the year of 2022 view Pfork as some huge monolithic entity that just drops these lists rather than, y'know, a collection of individual writers with their own takes.

My hyperbole came out— I actuall do love some Mariah, but “Fantasy” at number one? No.

I realize I should know better by now, but kind of crazy how so many people still here in the year of 2022 view Pfork as some huge monolithic entity that just drops these lists rather than, y'know, a collection of individual writers with their own takes.

At least the wrong takes are different wrong takes since the last list, so that's fun.

Actually, here's how the editor-in-chief described the process:

Pitchfork’s staff spent more than seven months poring over thousands of albums and songs in the making of this package, a series of lists and interviews that try to encapsulate some of our favorite music of a formative decade. The process included several rounds of voting between staff and contributors, and hours upon hours of “listening rooms” where the staff debated the merits of one song against another. There were more spreadsheets and impassioned Slack debates than anyone would like to admit, extensive conversations about the “critical pick” vs. the “fan favorite” vs. the “holistically beloved.”

The result is a massive amount of incredible music, represented by hundreds of artists and carefully considered by 112 critics from our staff, contributor pool, and writers and editors who influenced the discourse around music in the ’90s in real time.

And yet no time to fact-check an R.E.M. blurb!

Never ever been a Mariah fan, which has always bothered me because I like at least some songs by almost every other pop diva. She just doesn't connect for me. But also, it seems particularly weird to name as the best song of the '90s a track that relies heavily on a familiar sample from a classic '80s tune.

why

Taking hits from the 80s, but make em sound so crazy, might be the most 90s thing about it.

Fantasy mostly just makes me want to listen to GoL - not quite pulling off the 'learn to hear the sample anew' trick for me personally

idk if switching from lots of indie to lots of pop/r&b/rap is good or bad or whatever, but it does indicate a publication with a less distinct cultural voice which is bad

xposts Yeah with "Fantasy" I think it's that the sample isn't really reimagined or anything, the source material isn't remade (the way it is in Missy's "The Rain" e.g.), it's just appropriated and plopped down into the song.

I agree that ODB is great on the remix tho. He's pretty '90s.

whiney lmao

Whiney as Vicar of Challops this afternoon.

But I’m also just someone who has never really understood the love for vapid brainwash music that sells millions of records, and resent the fact that I’m considered a “bad fag” or “anti-populist” when I say so. Sorry!

― broccoli rabe thomas (the table is the table),

can you identify for this fag what is Vapid Brainwash Music so I can compile a list?

Bikini kill was probably the biggest punk band after Fugazi in the 90’s but y’all keep it up with the sexist angles it’s a good fit

This totally rips https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dO2nWMPRayI

Xpost a good fit for the pitchfork thread I meant to say

Never ever been a Mariah fan, which has always bothered me because I like at least some songs by almost every other pop diva. She just doesn't connect for me. But also, it seems particularly weird to name as the best song of the '90s a track that relies heavily on a familiar sample from a classic '80s tune.

― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, September 27, 2022

I don't get this take at all.

this is like complaining about most hip-hop