They're getting closer now!
― "Cool ranch dressing!" (morrisp), Monday, 26 September 2022 23:31 (one year ago) link
Everything is broken!
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 September 2022 23:36 (one year ago) link
Cynthia Gooding is perhaps best known to Dylan fans as the host of a ‘60s radio show called Folksingers Choice. In early 1962, she conducted what appears to be the first major interview with Dylan, which has since circulated widely. It is extremely engaging, as a Dylan who sounds unusually comfortable sings songs and spins yarns. A bit of it was animated a few years ago for the PBS TV show Blank on Blank:
But Cynthia Gooding did more with Dylan than just that famous interview. Among other things, she was a regular taper at Gerde’s Folk City, recording artists’ sets to play on her radio show. She was in the crowd with her gear on October 1, 1961, taping an early Bob performance as part of his residency with The Greenbriar Boys. This was the same residency that Robert Shelton reviewed so favorably in the New York Times, the review that kickstarted Dylan’s career.
On October 1, the night Gooding was recording, that review had just run. Dylan even talked about it from the stage.Sadly, the tape is not available to us to hear. It does exist though! The Bob Dylan Archives acquired Gooding’s tapes in 2018, and it includes this show. Our old friend Parker Fishel from the Bob Dylan Archives, who has access to the tape, noted down Dylan’s onstage comments about Shelton’s New York Times rave for me:"I said before, I'm sort of sick. I've been up [three?] nights reading the New York Times. I just can't let go, but I've got it with me downstairs. I've been reading it over and over again and haven't gotten any sleep for the last three nights. And I'm just reading and reading it to death. I bought 500 papers."In 1979, a Dylanologist named George Rothe visited Gooding at her apartment. She played him a bunch of her reel-to-reel tapes. He tooks notes and, many years later, wrote about it in a letter to Dylan author Clinton Heylin. He posted this fascinating document to rec.music.dylan, which I gather was the early-internet Dylan messageboard of choice (well before my time). The whole thing is worth reading, but here’s Rothe setting the scene:Well, I got to the apartment and 'dumbstruck' is the only way to describe what I saw. Cynthia Gooding is a tall woman, easily six feet tall, good looking with a good figure and greying hair. She had a small bookshelf unit filled with reel-to-reel tapes. The spines of the tape boxes read like a who's who of Bleeker Street. Names like Ochs, Paxton, Van Ronk, and of course Dylan stood lined up together. I gave her the discography. She gave me a bottle of red wine to open. After glancing at the first few pages, she said, "You're missing so much from the early days." She then pulled the first Dylan box from the shelf. She started to play it on her Sony reel-to-reel and realized it was all backwards. She said something about "not having played the tapes for years and years", and that this particular tape was recorded for broadcast on a show she used to do for WBAI in the early 60's. I rewound the tape so it would play properly. By the opening bars I knew I had never heard this song before. I asked her if she would allow me to make a copy of the tape. She hesitated and told me of the bad experience her friends (the McKenzies) had had with a Dylan biographer (Scaduto) and that she would only allow me to copy the tapes if "Bobby or his office said it was alright." I knew my chances were less than slim so I didn't pursue the topic. Instead I took out a pad of paper, a sharp pencil, sat forward, balanced my glass and listened closely for the next hour or so.He goes on to lists the setlist of this October 1 Gerde’s recording. It is, as far as I can tell, the source for pretty much all the info about this show that has circulated ever since. It is, unfortunately, not quite right.
Sadly, the tape is not available to us to hear. It does exist though! The Bob Dylan Archives acquired Gooding’s tapes in 2018, and it includes this show. Our old friend Parker Fishel from the Bob Dylan Archives, who has access to the tape, noted down Dylan’s onstage comments about Shelton’s New York Times rave for me:
"I said before, I'm sort of sick. I've been up [three?] nights reading the New York Times. I just can't let go, but I've got it with me downstairs. I've been reading it over and over again and haven't gotten any sleep for the last three nights. And I'm just reading and reading it to death. I bought 500 papers."
In 1979, a Dylanologist named George Rothe visited Gooding at her apartment. She played him a bunch of her reel-to-reel tapes. He tooks notes and, many years later, wrote about it in a letter to Dylan author Clinton Heylin. He posted this fascinating document to rec.music.dylan, which I gather was the early-internet Dylan messageboard of choice (well before my time). The whole thing is worth reading, but here’s Rothe setting the scene:
Well, I got to the apartment and 'dumbstruck' is the only way to describe what I saw. Cynthia Gooding is a tall woman, easily six feet tall, good looking with a good figure and greying hair. She had a small bookshelf unit filled with reel-to-reel tapes. The spines of the tape boxes read like a who's who of Bleeker Street. Names like Ochs, Paxton, Van Ronk, and of course Dylan stood lined up together. I gave her the discography. She gave me a bottle of red wine to open. After glancing at the first few pages, she said, "You're missing so much from the early days." She then pulled the first Dylan box from the shelf. She started to play it on her Sony reel-to-reel and realized it was all backwards. She said something about "not having played the tapes for years and years", and that this particular tape was recorded for broadcast on a show she used to do for WBAI in the early 60's. I rewound the tape so it would play properly. By the opening bars I knew I had never heard this song before. I asked her if she would allow me to make a copy of the tape. She hesitated and told me of the bad experience her friends (the McKenzies) had had with a Dylan biographer (Scaduto) and that she would only allow me to copy the tapes if "Bobby or his office said it was alright." I knew my chances were less than slim so I didn't pursue the topic. Instead I took out a pad of paper, a sharp pencil, sat forward, balanced my glass and listened closely for the next hour or so.
He goes on to lists the setlist of this October 1 Gerde’s recording. It is, as far as I can tell, the source for pretty much all the info about this show that has circulated ever since. It is, unfortunately, not quite right.
― dow, Saturday, 1 October 2022 14:01 (one year ago) link
(sorry for this tangential question -- dylanchords is such a great resource. and then there's lennon chords, mccartney chords, harrison chords. is there a "beatleschords" equivalent? it's odd that their solo work gets dedicated sites but for the beatles (i'm thinking "any time at all", this morning) you're back to ultimate-guitar.com?)
― Karl Malone, Saturday, 1 October 2022 15:38 (one year ago) link
Good question, didn't know about that gap.
xpost a couple stand-outs in that piece:
A few years ago, the Dylan camp floated the idea of a Bootleg Series installment called The Villager looking at Bob’s early folkie days. If that ever happens, I imagine the Gooding tapes would make strong candidates for inclusion.
Bob Dylan Plotting Coffeehouse Years Collection for Future Bootleg SeriesDylan's team is also considering a release of his 1969 duets with Johnny Cash along with a 'Time Out of Mind' box set
Bob Dylan — New York, 19617,775 views Premiered Sep 26, 2021 This is just a compilation of audio recordings that I have put together of Bob playing in different places around New York in 1961 (Including some songs played at Gerde's Folk City, 60 years to the day) .. I don't think any of these have been officially released. I have attempted to post this a few times today, but had to take songs out for copyright reasons. There's still 2 hours and 9 minutes of songs here. Just about to type out the track details and timings here, so they should appear here:1. Handsome Molly — Riverside Church. 29th July, 1961 0:002. Naomi Wise — Riverside Church. 29th July, 1961 4:27 3. Harmonica holder — Riverside Church. 29th July, 1961 8:50 4. Poor Lazarus — Riverside Church. 29th July, 1961 12:17__5. Man on the Street — Gaslight Cafe. 6th September, 1961 17:586. He Was a Friend of Mine — Gaslight Cafe. 6th September, 1961 20:217. Talkin' Bear Mountain Picnic Massacre Blues (incomplete) 24:568. Song to Woody — Gaslight Cafe. 6th September, 1961 31:089. Pretty Polly — Gaslight Cafe. 6th September, 1961 34:1610. Car, Car (with Dave Van Ronk) Gaslight Cafe. 6th September, 1961 40:47__11. Ranger's Command — Gerde's Folk City. 26th September, 1961 43:1412. San Francisco Bay Blues — Gerde's Folk City. 26th September, 1961 46:5313. The Great Divide — Gerde's Folk City 26th September, 1961 50:03__14. Fixin' To Die — Izzy Young's Folklore Centre, October, 1961 54:00 __15. Pretty Peggy-O — Carnegie Chapter Hall. 4th November, 1961 59:4816. Bob talking 1:03:2017. In The Pines — Carnegie Chapter Hall. 4th November, 1961 1:05:3818. Gospel Plow — Carnegie Chapter Hall. 4th November, 1961 1:11:4719. 1913 Massacre — Carnegie Chapter Hall. 4th November, 1961 1:16:1320. Backwater Blues — Carnegie Chapter Hall. 4th November, 1961 1:22:4021. Young But Daily Growing — Carnegie Chapter Hall. 4th November, 1961 1:27:4922. Fixin' To Die — Carnegie Chapter Hall. 4th November, 1961 1:35:22 23. Talkin' Bear Mountain Picnic Massacre Blues — Carnegie Chapter Hall 1:39:07 24. Man On The Street — Carnegie Chapter Hall. 4th November, 1961 1:44:37 (This Land Is Your Land - taken out, for copyright) 25. Talking Merchant Marine — Carnegie Chapter Hall. 4th November, 1961 1:47:0826. Black Cross (Hezikiah Jones) — Carnegie Chapter Hall. 4th November, 1961 1:51:37 27. Freight Train Blues — Carnegie Chapter Hall. 4th November, 1961 1:57:27 28. Song To Woody — Carnegie Chapter Hall. 4th November, 1961 2:00:44 29. Talkin' New York — Carnegie Chapter Hall. 4th November, 1961 2:05:15_The photograph is by Joe Alper, taken on the 25th September, 1961_I will type in the details of which songs are which, and the timings of them in the description here._It looks like there is going to be a Bob tour announced tomorrow, starting in the Midwest and heading east .. Pretty good news http://www.bobdylan.com/
― dow, Saturday, 1 October 2022 16:46 (one year ago) link
Ray Padgett, whose Dylan-related interviews in the Flaggin' Down The Double-Es news letter have been linked and quoted here, is self-publishing a book that incl. all of those and a bunch of others, also in-depth, that have never seen the light of day:
The book-exclusive interviews so far are:Ray Benson - Asleep at the Wheel frontman, opened for Dylan in 2000 and sat in several timesDickey Betts - Allman Brother, sang his own “Ramblin’ Man” with Bob onstageJeff Bridges - Masked & Anonymous co-star, on-set guitar-picking parter Harvey Brooks - Bass player for Highway 61 Revisited and New Morning and Dylan’s first post-Newport electric shows in NYC & LAGary Burke - Percussionist for 1976 Rolling Thunder tourMarshall Crenshaw - Auditioned to play bass in the first Never Ending Tour band. Didn’t get the gig.Karl Denson - Lenny Kravitz sax player who jammed with Bob onstage at the Beacon, 1990Leslie Dowdall - In Tua Nua singer, sang with Bob and Bono at Slane Castle, 1984Ramblin' Jack Elliott - Folk-era friend and 1975 Rolling Thunder featured performerKinky Friedman - Featured performer for 1976 Rolling Thunder tour (taking Ramblin’ Jack’s slot) and wild 1991 Chabad telethon duoBarry Goldberg - Newport 1965 keyboard player, only person to both produce Bob Dylan and be produced by himFreddy Koella - Cult favorite Never Ending Tour guitarist (2003-4) whose short tenure left a big markSpooner Oldham - Gospel-era keyboard player, 1979-80Michael "Soy Bomb" Portnoy - Grammy stage-crasherDuke Robillard - Time Out of Mind guitarist and, briefly, Never Ending Tour band memberFred Tackett - Guitarist for Dylan’s entire gospel run, 1979-81Richard Thompson - Accompanied Bob at Guitar Legends 1991, had his “1952 Vincent Black Lightning” covered by Bob 20+ years laterHappy Traum - Greenwich Village compatriot, back in the fold a decade later for Greatest Hits II tunesThose exclusives are, of course, on top of all the other interviews I’ve already done with Dylan bandmates and guests, which will also be collected in the book. Too many to bullet out there, so I’ll just recap the names quickly:Rich Alderson, Colin Allen, Ronee Blakley, Cidny Bullens, Larry Campbell, Billy Cross, Keith Diercks, Richard Fernandez, John Fields, Fuzzy Frazer, Paul James, Jim Keltner, Louie Kemp, Dickie Landry, Claudia Levy, Stan Lynch, David Mansfield, Regina McCrary, Chris O’Dell, Christopher Parker, Alan Pasqua, Scarlet Rivera, Luther Rix, David Robb, Larry “Ratso” Sloman, Noel Paul Stookey, Fred Tackett, Benmont Tench, Bobby Valentino, Winston Watson, Jon WursterWhew!There’s more information about the book at the Indiegogo page. I hope you’ll consider supporting the project by preordering it there, and maybe consider one of the other perks too.
Ray Benson - Asleep at the Wheel frontman, opened for Dylan in 2000 and sat in several times
Dickey Betts - Allman Brother, sang his own “Ramblin’ Man” with Bob onstage
Jeff Bridges - Masked & Anonymous co-star, on-set guitar-picking parter
Harvey Brooks - Bass player for Highway 61 Revisited and New Morning and Dylan’s first post-Newport electric shows in NYC & LA
Gary Burke - Percussionist for 1976 Rolling Thunder tour
Marshall Crenshaw - Auditioned to play bass in the first Never Ending Tour band. Didn’t get the gig.
Karl Denson - Lenny Kravitz sax player who jammed with Bob onstage at the Beacon, 1990
Leslie Dowdall - In Tua Nua singer, sang with Bob and Bono at Slane Castle, 1984
Ramblin' Jack Elliott - Folk-era friend and 1975 Rolling Thunder featured performer
Kinky Friedman - Featured performer for 1976 Rolling Thunder tour (taking Ramblin’ Jack’s slot) and wild 1991 Chabad telethon duo
Barry Goldberg - Newport 1965 keyboard player, only person to both produce Bob Dylan and be produced by him
Freddy Koella - Cult favorite Never Ending Tour guitarist (2003-4) whose short tenure left a big mark
Spooner Oldham - Gospel-era keyboard player, 1979-80
Michael "Soy Bomb" Portnoy - Grammy stage-crasher
Duke Robillard - Time Out of Mind guitarist and, briefly, Never Ending Tour band member
Fred Tackett - Guitarist for Dylan’s entire gospel run, 1979-81
Richard Thompson - Accompanied Bob at Guitar Legends 1991, had his “1952 Vincent Black Lightning” covered by Bob 20+ years later
Happy Traum - Greenwich Village compatriot, back in the fold a decade later for Greatest Hits II tunes
Those exclusives are, of course, on top of all the other interviews I’ve already done with Dylan bandmates and guests, which will also be collected in the book. Too many to bullet out there, so I’ll just recap the names quickly:
Rich Alderson, Colin Allen, Ronee Blakley, Cidny Bullens, Larry Campbell, Billy Cross, Keith Diercks, Richard Fernandez, John Fields, Fuzzy Frazer, Paul James, Jim Keltner, Louie Kemp, Dickie Landry, Claudia Levy, Stan Lynch, David Mansfield, Regina McCrary, Chris O’Dell, Christopher Parker, Alan Pasqua, Scarlet Rivera, Luther Rix, David Robb, Larry “Ratso” Sloman, Noel Paul Stookey, Fred Tackett, Benmont Tench, Bobby Valentino, Winston Watson, Jon Wurster
Whew!
There’s more information about the book at the Indiegogo page. I hope you’ll consider supporting the project by preordering it there, and maybe consider one of the other perks too.
― dow, Tuesday, 18 October 2022 01:02 (one year ago) link
https://c2.iggcdn.com/indiegogo-media-prod-cld/image/upload/c_fill,w_695,g_auto,q_auto,dpr_1.3,f_auto,h_460/vpyauik908xprzolene8
― dow, Tuesday, 18 October 2022 01:06 (one year ago) link
Click web page version of this at bottom to check the links in here, incl. to reports on other recent shows and audio from this one :
Last Night in London2022-10-23, London Palladium, London, EnglandRay Padgett7 hr agoAs I did at the earlier Rough and Rowdy Ways Tour shows I saw (Milwaukee, Chicago, Philadelphia, New Orleans), some quick next-morning thoughts on last night’s show. With — bonus — an early recording! I’ll do it again after tonight’s show.The more things stay the same, the more they change. Last night’s show had the same setlist as the last one I saw in New Orleans back in March (minus one non-Bob song). Same band and stage arrangement. Same Bob too. But for all that similarity, it felt quite different.For one, it’s a slower, more meditative performance now — and it wasn’t exactly a punk show before! Most of the uptempo songs have been paced down. “False Prophet” in particular has lost most of the bite I loved so much in New Orleans. What works better though, is the near-solo piano openings to several songs: “I’ll Be Your Baby Tonight,” “To Be Alone with You,” and “Gotta Serve Somebody.” Hearing these, you could envision what it might be like for Bob to hit the road solo, just him and the ivories taking his piano-man routine from town to town. I’d go. Take a listen to all three songs’ piano openings from last night’ show, before the band kicks in (thanks to Brian for getting me a tape so fast!):Those are some things that changed since the spring, but here are some things that almost changed…but didn’t:Guitarist Bob Britt. At the London show two nights earlier, he was nowhere to be seen onstage. I assumed illness (Covid?), but the rumor circulating last night, which I can’t verify, was that he had to fly back to the U.S. for some corporate gig. Gotta be more to the story though; I find it unlikely Dylan just lets his band members leave whenever they want now.The tour’s opening show in Oslo saw two changes that didn’t stick. Most notably, “When I Paint My Masterpiece” was played as a trio with the two Bobs and Donnie Herron on violin. The other band members left the stage. The arrangement showed potential, but didn’t really land. Dylan must not have thought so either, as it was gone by night two. You can hear it here.Also gone: Dylan playing guitar. He’d opened most shows on the most recent U.S. tour with a few minutes of instrumental guitar on “Watching the River Flow,” but dumped it after the first night in Europe. Too bad. It didn’t sound great on bootlegs, admittedly, but I’m sure Bob strumming away was fun to see live.Dylan opened at least one show recently with a short instrumental snippet of “Oh Susannah.” You can hear it here. Whatever he played last night didn’t sound like “Oh Susannah” to me, but it did sound like more than ambient noodling. Can anyone ID it?Keep Reading With a 7-Day Free Trial
As I did at the earlier Rough and Rowdy Ways Tour shows I saw (Milwaukee, Chicago, Philadelphia, New Orleans), some quick next-morning thoughts on last night’s show. With — bonus — an early recording! I’ll do it again after tonight’s show.
The more things stay the same, the more they change. Last night’s show had the same setlist as the last one I saw in New Orleans back in March (minus one non-Bob song). Same band and stage arrangement. Same Bob too. But for all that similarity, it felt quite different.
For one, it’s a slower, more meditative performance now — and it wasn’t exactly a punk show before! Most of the uptempo songs have been paced down. “False Prophet” in particular has lost most of the bite I loved so much in New Orleans. What works better though, is the near-solo piano openings to several songs: “I’ll Be Your Baby Tonight,” “To Be Alone with You,” and “Gotta Serve Somebody.” Hearing these, you could envision what it might be like for Bob to hit the road solo, just him and the ivories taking his piano-man routine from town to town. I’d go.
Take a listen to all three songs’ piano openings from last night’ show, before the band kicks in (thanks to Brian for getting me a tape so fast!):Those are some things that changed since the spring, but here are some things that almost changed…but didn’t:
Guitarist Bob Britt. At the London show two nights earlier, he was nowhere to be seen onstage. I assumed illness (Covid?), but the rumor circulating last night, which I can’t verify, was that he had to fly back to the U.S. for some corporate gig. Gotta be more to the story though; I find it unlikely Dylan just lets his band members leave whenever they want now.
The tour’s opening show in Oslo saw two changes that didn’t stick. Most notably, “When I Paint My Masterpiece” was played as a trio with the two Bobs and Donnie Herron on violin. The other band members left the stage. The arrangement showed potential, but didn’t really land. Dylan must not have thought so either, as it was gone by night two. You can hear it here.
Also gone: Dylan playing guitar. He’d opened most shows on the most recent U.S. tour with a few minutes of instrumental guitar on “Watching the River Flow,” but dumped it after the first night in Europe. Too bad. It didn’t sound great on bootlegs, admittedly, but I’m sure Bob strumming away was fun to see live.
Dylan opened at least one show recently with a short instrumental snippet of “Oh Susannah.” You can hear it here. Whatever he played last night didn’t sound like “Oh Susannah” to me, but it did sound like more than ambient noodling. Can anyone ID it?
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― dow, Monday, 24 October 2022 18:17 (one year ago) link
ah yes, to be a dylan fan
― corrs unplugged, Saturday, 29 October 2022 15:41 (one year ago) link
Lol!
― Regex Dwight (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 29 October 2022 15:42 (one year ago) link
The daughter of a deceased Hibbing native is auctioning off a stash of 42 “love letters” that teenage Bob sent her mom in 1957-59.
― Reese's Pisces Iscariot (morrisp), Friday, 11 November 2022 05:53 (one year ago) link
jeez, that's embarrassing. i'm sure robert zimmerman's love letters are better than most teenagers. but still, maybe just wait til he dies until that stuff comes out
― Karl Malone, Friday, 11 November 2022 06:07 (one year ago) link
James Joyce's are still the gold standard.
― birdistheword, Friday, 11 November 2022 06:52 (one year ago) link
OMG. I seem to recall Vladimir Nabokov shaking his head at Joyce’s rhapsodies on Nora’s callipygian splendors, to paraphrase.
― Me and the Major on the Moon (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 11 November 2022 06:54 (one year ago) link
I'm picturing a major discovery where we find out his most famous protest songs are simply rewrites of dirty missives from his youth.
― birdistheword, Friday, 11 November 2022 06:58 (one year ago) link
it's a hardit's a hardit's a hardit's a hardit's a hard thiiiiiing to say but we're breaking up, babe
― Karl Malone, Friday, 11 November 2022 07:06 (one year ago) link
OMG, these Joyce letters!
― Reese's Pisces Iscariot (morrisp), Friday, 11 November 2022 07:11 (one year ago) link
what does “blocking” mean?
― Reese's Pisces Iscariot (morrisp), Friday, 11 November 2022 07:19 (one year ago) link
(ok, I get it now)
― Reese's Pisces Iscariot (morrisp), Friday, 11 November 2022 07:22 (one year ago) link
One of the books about Dylan quotes a youthful poem where he rhapsodizes about someone's "cans" the "size of headlights".
― Halfway there but for you, Friday, 11 November 2022 15:53 (one year ago) link
that's why he won the nobel prize
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 11 November 2022 15:56 (one year ago) link
lol
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 11 November 2022 15:59 (one year ago) link
can make it home with just one of those cans
― “uhh”—like, this is an insane oatmeal raisin cookie “uhh” (President Keyes), Friday, 11 November 2022 16:19 (one year ago) link
This adds an extra level of confusion to The Wallflowers’ One Headlight
― Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 11 November 2022 23:56 (one year ago) link
Thought maybe Dylan's People would spike this with a copyright claim, as Salinger or his estate did w letters that might have been published (also somebody's Pynchon stash never quite saw the light of day, but no, not so far, maybe because they're purportedly intended for archive perusal, not publication:https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/music-news/love-letters-written-by-bob-dylan-sells-auction-670k-1235266424/ Sold sep.: "Poems Without Titles," from his college days, so mebbe moving beyond mixing cans x headlights.
― dow, Sunday, 20 November 2022 19:06 (one year ago) link
Just read that the Dylan book about other people's songs had a $600 hand signed edition that turns out to have used auto pen. The publisher is offering refunds, but defending it by saying that that actually was Dylan's signature, just automatically reprinted. Details, details ...
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 21 November 2022 21:16 (one year ago) link
Indeed ^
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/22/arts/bob-dylan-fake-signature.html
― StanM, Wednesday, 23 November 2022 06:14 (one year ago) link
I think a similar thing happened with "signed" copies of Keith Richards's book, but 1) he didn't charge anything close to $600 and 2) no one denied that it was done by an autopen, they admitted it when asked.
― birdistheword, Wednesday, 23 November 2022 06:18 (one year ago) link
the replies to the S&S tweet don't agree with the "as it turns out" :
pic.twitter.com/s1buWZSTs8— Simon & Schuster (@simonschuster) November 20, 2022
― StanM, Wednesday, 23 November 2022 06:25 (one year ago) link
Wait, did they do a similar promotion with Lyrics? That will really compound the problem if those were autopenned too.
― birdistheword, Wednesday, 23 November 2022 06:33 (one year ago) link
I used to have a replica of an original painting by Edward Hopper hanging with invisible tape in my dorm room.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 23 November 2022 13:29 (one year ago) link
A real replica?
― StanM, Wednesday, 23 November 2022 15:15 (one year ago) link
Well, Hopper painted the original. The gift shop just made a perfect copy of it on poster paper that I was able to get for $15. Like, just glancing at it, it was practically identical. Looked like this:
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQYz4LMXDQ4Ikq4krb95et0Hsk_YSWTcXVYK6eDhpk1-6zmySju8Gs_DnHKCK-KEcl8Zkg&usqp=CAU
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 23 November 2022 15:47 (one year ago) link
If anyone wants a Dylan autograph, for free, here you go!
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2022/11/22/books/oakImage-1669149215382/oakImage-1669149215382-mediumSquareAt3X.jpg
You're welcome.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 23 November 2022 15:49 (one year ago) link
Suckah! Flipping that on eBay right now - starting bid, $100! (reserve not met)
― birdistheword, Wednesday, 23 November 2022 16:01 (one year ago) link
Goddamit, you're one step ahead of me!
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 23 November 2022 16:07 (one year ago) link
fuck eBay - I'm selling mine on Coinbase!
― peace, man, Wednesday, 23 November 2022 16:10 (one year ago) link
where can i purchase the nft?
― ミ💙🅟 🅛 🅤 🅡 🅜 🅑💙彡 (Austin), Wednesday, 23 November 2022 16:20 (one year ago) link
Bob Dylan is an ai
― | (Latham Green), Wednesday, 23 November 2022 16:24 (one year ago) link
Johnny's in the basement, mixin' up the medicineI'm on the pavement, thinkin' about the governmentThe man in a trench coat, badge out, laid offSays he's got a bad cough, wants to get it paid off
Look out kid, the robbers have come aroundGet inside you, kid we've got to lay low!
Why have you sided with The Elite?Well, Spacebook's the bad choice they made
Man those bands are suckers and fucksThey can't come in, can't venture inBecause if you engage them you'll never live it down
Why have you sided with The Elite?Booooooo! Hey!
While The FWA ain't garbage to begin withThose men spout anarchy just to steal moneyAnd sell them Swisher Sweets but plenty burned into the cane
Then the police pull a kid off the blockAnd march the next kid up in the cuffsOf that home-made mason
― peace, man, Wednesday, 23 November 2022 16:46 (one year ago) link
Reading between the lines I’m wondering if the publisher was duped by the Dylan camp, like they sent the books off in good faith to be signed and nobody realised what had happened when they came back.
― assert (matttkkkk), Wednesday, 23 November 2022 17:43 (one year ago) link
Is this different from what Margaret Atwood (and I assume other authors) did, where she signed books in other cities using some kind of remote-control arm and pen? Those seemed to be regarded as real signatures?
― Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 23 November 2022 17:50 (one year ago) link
Dylan’s Own ShishetSweet cigars
― | (Latham Green), Wednesday, 23 November 2022 17:53 (one year ago) link
There is a John Updike story in which Henry Bech is supposed to sign like a thousand pieces of paper that will later be tipped into books. He goes to a beach house with his girlfriend, procrastinates, and gets like a third of the way through and has to sepnd the last few hours hurrying. After writing "Henry Bech" a hundred times it gets to Hen Bch, then H B, then just, like B---.
Some years ago, a well-meaning relative gave me a "signed first edition" (created for the non-existent "Signed First Edition Club") of Witches of Eastwick. I looked at the signed flyleaf and knew instantly how it had been made.
― ooh I wanna take ya to Topeka (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 23 November 2022 18:09 (one year ago) link
I mean it IS your signature but it's not signed by you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5VB8DuZMv8
― StanM, Wednesday, 23 November 2022 18:15 (one year ago) link
Dillon is cleverly evoking deep American cultural history, per his norm: http://cultureandcommunication.org/deadmedia/index.php/Duplicating_Polygraph
― "Mick Wall at Kerrang!" (morrisp), Wednesday, 23 November 2022 18:50 (one year ago) link
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Well, I bought a fully signed Echo and the bunnymen album, "Songs to learn and sing", some were signed "Ian McCullough" but most were "Ian Mac"
― Mark G, Wednesday, 23 November 2022 18:56 (one year ago) link
(my above autocorrect error is a happy-accident allusion to Bob's original pseudonym:
According to Dylan biographer Robert Shelton, the singer first confided his change of name to his high school girlfriend, Echo Helstrom, in 1958, telling her that he had found a "great name, Bob Dillon".
– interestingly, that's a different high school girlfriend than the recipient of those recently auctioned letters. player!)
― "Mick Wall at Kerrang!" (morrisp), Wednesday, 23 November 2022 19:06 (one year ago) link
xp FWIW Richard Thompson is a good example of someone whose signature has devolved over time to make signing quicker and more painless. What originally looked like a full cursive name gradually turned into a pair of indistinct squibbles. When I got a signed copy of his memoir, the latter is what I got - I was curious as to whether this was his usual signature (he posted a photo of him signing an enormous stack of books piled on to a long conference table) and I found someone who was able to document that development with a large collection of signed Thompson albums.
― birdistheword, Wednesday, 23 November 2022 19:08 (one year ago) link
I can actually link to some examples - see below, but I think these signatures were all done around the time of the signed item's release:
https://i.ibb.co/njH93tk/01.jpg https://i.ibb.co/LC6GLYk/02.jpg https://i.ibb.co/PZHwRng/03.jpg
― birdistheword, Wednesday, 23 November 2022 19:12 (one year ago) link