I think I was sleepy when I listened this morning, it's still very groovy but it hits harder than I thought
― rob, Friday, 23 September 2022 20:13 (one year ago) link
George Benson's White Rabbit is so good. One advantage of the CTI albums is they are relatively cheap on vinyl.
The Makaya McCraven is pretty great. tylerw's reference that it is CTI filtered through hip-hop/electronic music is otm.
― i need to put some clouds behind the reaper (PBKR), Friday, 23 September 2022 23:58 (one year ago) link
Getting a bit of a 'Four Tet circa Rounds' vibe from this new McCraven album (not a huge surprise given Hebden's magpie tendencies and his obvious love for the CTI sound - 'CTI filtered through hip-hop/electronic music' could be a Hebden tagline tbh).
― Shard-borne Beatles with their drowsy hums (Chinaski), Saturday, 24 September 2022 10:16 (one year ago) link
Doesn't sound all that hip-hop/electronics to me, but if that take lures more people into listening, hey great.Thanx for tips/reassurances re CTI yall---especially
hat one Joe Farrell album with John McLaughlin rules
― dow, Saturday, 24 September 2022 16:02 (one year ago) link
This one, right?!wiki:
Joe Farrell Quartet is a jazz album by Joe Farrell that was released by CTI Records. It was recorded at the Van Gelder Studio on July 1 and 2, 1970.[1] Guitarist John McLaughlin plays on two tracks, and there are two duo tracks, one with Dave Holland and one with Chick Corea. The album was re-released twice in the mid 1970s (with different cover art in each instance) as Super Session and Song of the Wind.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRFg_WUKrwY
― dow, Saturday, 24 September 2022 16:08 (one year ago) link
Doesn't sound all that hip-hop/electronics to me
maybe listen to The Fours again
― rob, Saturday, 24 September 2022 20:29 (one year ago) link
I figured that was being referred to, but seemed like the loop effect could have been played live in the studio (maybe with a discreet little "beat science" tweak to enhance the effect, but not nec.)
― dow, Saturday, 24 September 2022 21:05 (one year ago) link
love this album. favourites tracks are probably “So Ubuji” and “Lullaby”. “Lullaby” reminds me (someone who knows very little of jazz) of some beautiful Turkish stuff I used to listen to a lot.
― big movers, hot steppers + long shaker intros (breastcrawl), Sunday, 25 September 2022 12:47 (one year ago) link
Album is great, Ubuji is a top ten of the year methinks
― “Cheeky cheeky!” she trills, nearly demolishing a roadside post (forksclovetofu), Monday, 26 September 2022 07:24 (one year ago) link
Speaking of jazz w hip-hop and electronics, also check the latest by the late great Jaimie Branch's other group, Anteloper:https://intlanthem.bandcamp.com/album/pink-dolphinsTurns out that they're avowed Live-Evil fanz too.
― dow, Monday, 26 September 2022 23:14 (one year ago) link
New (last) album from The Comet Is Coming fits that bill too
― “Cheeky cheeky!” she trills, nearly demolishing a roadside post (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 27 September 2022 01:13 (one year ago) link
breastcrawl, i'm glad you also picked up on "lullaby" as a standout. truly gorgeous.
the closing three tracks are also quite the trip, and in three different styles. "so ubuji" is danceable in a way that a lot of songs on here aren't, it's probably that emphasis on the upbeat. "the knew untitled" has this dreamy debussy-esque feeling until the guitar comes in and wails. "the title" wears its hip-hop influences proudly on its sleeves, while the strings and harp provide a kind of reverie that doesn't usually accompany this style of percussion.
― comedy khadafi (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 27 September 2022 16:58 (one year ago) link
It's vibey for sure, there's not a lot of jazz-like leading blowing, but there's a lot of serious beat science going on (especially in the early tracks, he's using a bunch of different devices to get that drunken Dilla feel), and lots of great drumming. I love it.
― change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 27 September 2022 17:04 (one year ago) link
"Lullaby" is beautiful, yeah. I don't know Hungarian folk music at all, but I assume that's the "eastern" influence there? (given his family background & interest in it). Very cool how differently people are hearing this
― rob, Tuesday, 27 September 2022 17:23 (one year ago) link
ridiculously good album
― Indexed, Wednesday, 12 October 2022 17:24 (one year ago) link
Really is. Such a nice progression from Universal Beings and the songs have a feel razor sharp feel to the editing and composition, yet sound soft as a feather.
― octobeard, Wednesday, 12 October 2022 18:43 (one year ago) link
Yeah, this is pretty incredible. I can see how someone looking for Universal Beings II might find this too mellow, but this really is gorgeous. "Dream Another" and "Lullaby" is where I really started to fall for this record, by "Seventh String" and "So Ubuji" I was convinced that this is a damn near masterpiece.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 21 October 2022 17:09 (one year ago) link
I've been listening to it almost every day.
― sometimes you have to drink to kill the paranoia (PBKR), Friday, 21 October 2022 22:29 (one year ago) link
was too burned out from a show on Wednesday to go see him last night, love the new album
― sleeve, Friday, 21 October 2022 22:37 (one year ago) link
Dream Another is superb. I'm going to be spending a lot more time with this record.
― The Ghost Club, Saturday, 22 October 2022 01:01 (one year ago) link
yes this is fantastic. also, enjoyed his version of I'm New Here far more than the Jamie XX
― Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Saturday, 22 October 2022 07:41 (one year ago) link
and it seemed to get totally ignored/not talked about last year?
"This Place That Place" is a song I have come back to again and again this year. I appreciate how well constructed his songs and albums are, but I wouldn't hate to hear a bit more of his drumming let loose.
― Indexed, Wednesday, 18 January 2023 22:34 (one year ago) link
live show I caught this past fall was amazing, and McCraven definitely was less reined in than on the record — band was Jeff Parker, Junius Paul and D'Sean Jones, just nonstop grooves.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 18 January 2023 22:54 (one year ago) link
his live drumming really is phenomenal. I wouldn't mind the next album being looser, though he's not set a wrong foot yet
― rob, Wednesday, 18 January 2023 23:14 (one year ago) link
...enjoyed his version of I'm New Here far more than the Jamie XX― Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Saturday, October 22, 2022 2:41 AM (two months ago) bookmarkflaglinkand it seemed to get totally ignored/not talked about last year?― Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Saturday, October 22, 2022
― Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Saturday, October 22, 2022 2:41 AM (two months ago) bookmarkflaglink
― Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Saturday, October 22, 2022
I mentioned it upthread and on ballots:
... in 2020, this made several of my ballots---from blogged comments:
Gil Scott-Heron/Makaya McCraven, We're New Again: A Reimagining By Makaya McCraven---Still haven't heard the original album, or Jamie xx's reworking, but the unmistakable sound and sensibility of classic Gil come through: sharp, reflective glints in the dark, rough-edged and fluid, lyrical and realist, searching and on point, thematic and grooving---jazzwise, yet "blues is a feeling" the overall. Only thing is, some of the originals are really short, like down to 37 seconds: golden kernels of potential and realization---McCraven is def. not showboating, but I wish he extended these--maybe he was required to stick to the original track times? I'd like a bit more---Anyway, it's all good, though faves are mostly because they have longer to make an impression: "New York is Killing Me," "I'll Take Care of You," "Me and the Devil"--yes, Scott-Heron and Robert Johnson and Mr. D. riding the Greyhound, seems natural. Speaking voice is worn but clear, singing voice not that different from 1970s.
― dow, Thursday, 19 January 2023 00:20 (one year ago) link
Seeing him tonight and am awfully excited to finally get to watch him play live. Major bonus that Meshell Ndegeocello, Greg Ward, and Brandee Younger are part of the ensemble.
― Indexed, Friday, 19 January 2024 15:03 (three months ago) link
Meshell! Is it the In These Times large group, or something less?
I must have posted on it on another thread, but I got to see the large group at a theater a few months ago and it was very special. It was pretty much the exact group on the record except for Jeff Parker.
― Jordan s/t (Jordan), Friday, 19 January 2024 15:52 (three months ago) link
Not sure but you can see the performers at the bottom here: https://cso.org/performances/23-24/scp-jazz/makaya-mccraven/
I know Hill, Paul, and Younger all played on the album.
― Indexed, Friday, 19 January 2024 16:48 (three months ago) link
I'd be interested to know how much of a feedback loop there is between his live performances and recordings. Some of his most striking albums come from live recordings that have been heavily edited and manipulated. I'm wondering if he then tries to reproduce the sound of those albums in his live shows.
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Friday, 19 January 2024 16:52 (three months ago) link
He definitely did for the ITT show. It sounded almost exactly like the record, but I think that was unusual because of the effort and expense that goes into getting such a large ensemble together (there was also a string quartet). And that record felt a lot more planned out than some of the more stitched-together ones. I've also seen him with a trio that involved a lot more stretching out, they were playing his tunes but I didn't really recognize much.
― Jordan s/t (Jordan), Friday, 19 January 2024 17:01 (three months ago) link
I've seen him twice (both before ITT came out) and neither time did he try to reproduce the albums.
― rob, Friday, 19 January 2024 17:13 (three months ago) link
Reporting back. Magical show. One of the best I've seen in a long long time. Jeff Parker played, too! Meshell came out for the second half of the set, and they did her version of "Waterfalls," Makaya's reimagining of Gil Scott-Heron's "I'll Take Care of You," and Brandee Younger's version of Dorothy Ashby's "Dust." It was one of those sets where you just feel blessed to be in the presence of such talent. Will look for every opportunity to see McCraven again.
― Indexed, Monday, 22 January 2024 16:43 (three months ago) link
Somehow I found an extremely cheap minty copy of in the moment on vinyl a few days ago, it's pretty outstanding. Would love to catch him live sometime.
― omar little, Monday, 22 January 2024 16:46 (three months ago) link
Amazed at how active and dynamic McCraven's drumming is, yet never anything close to overpowering or showy. If anything I was hoping to see him let loose -- don't believe he took a solo all night.
― Indexed, Monday, 22 January 2024 17:11 (three months ago) link
Saw McCraven last night at big Strathmore Hall in a Washington DC suburb. Band included Brandee Younger on harp, Deshawn Jones, Graham Ward, Marquis Hill, Julius Paul, a cellist whose name I didn't get and 3 women violinists whose names I sadly also missed. Mostly In these times songs, but also an encore -the title track from his Gil Scott-Heron album, with some sampled Scott-Heron vocals, then the bassist took over on vocals. Lots of harp and subtle McCraven drumming on that.
A guy I know who had seen McCraven at Big Ears, said this show seemed more sedate than that one. This was my first time seeing McCraven. One cut got noisy , and McCraven was hiphop meets James Brown funky on others, but some cuts were sublime and kinda Curtis Mayfield meets old school Miles Davis ethereal with the violins, flute, and harp taking prominence and I liked that (more than my buddy). Giovanni Russonello, NY Times jazz critic who's working on a book about Scott-Heron, did a powerpoint with video presentation about McCraven in a smaller room there beforehand. Gio posted quotes from an interview he had done with McCraven the day before, added in video clips of Ahmad Jamal, Pete Rock, mentions of J Dilla, and quotes from musicologists and others I didn't know. Was reiterating the message about how McCraven likes to re-do projects live and not keep things static, and how he likes to include human error.
― curmudgeon, Saturday, 24 February 2024 19:16 (two months ago) link
That sounds like a great show! Quick tip for anybody: his "Highly Rare" and "Where We Come From" LPs are half-priced ($12) on Bandcamp through this weekend.
― daily growing, Saturday, 24 February 2024 19:54 (two months ago) link
FYI the cellist in McCraven's group is Lia Kohl--a fantastic composer in her own right who is based in Chicago. I reissued her first album on my label last year:
https://florabelle.bandcamp.com/album/too-small-to-be-a-plain
― mr. milligan, Sunday, 25 February 2024 20:24 (two months ago) link
Oh thanks
― curmudgeon, Monday, 26 February 2024 13:51 (one month ago) link
FUCK, I never pay enough attention to the Strathmore calendar.
― Chris L, Monday, 26 February 2024 14:29 (one month ago) link
Quick tip for anybody: his "Highly Rare" and "Where We Come From" LPs are half-priced ($12) on Bandcamp through this weekend.― daily growing, Saturday, February 24, 2024 1:54 PM (two days ago) bookmarkflaglink
― daily growing, Saturday, February 24, 2024 1:54 PM (two days ago) bookmarkflaglink
Wow thanks for the heads up! I have not heard either. What are they like?
― Indexed, Monday, 26 February 2024 17:23 (one month ago) link
Highly Rare is a chopped-up beat tape made from a four-track live recording of McCraven with Nick Mazzarella on alto sax, Ben Lamar Gay on cornet and diddley-bow, and Junius Paul on electric bass. It's good, and/but very raw — deliberately so.
Where We Come From is also live, and a little less primitively recorded; it's from London and features Soweto Kinch and Nubya Garcia on saxes, Theon Cross on tuba, Joe Armon-Jones on Fender Rhodes and Kamaal Williams on keyboards. Then some other people overdubbed additional instruments later. It's really good, one of my favorite of his albums in fact.
― Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Monday, 26 February 2024 17:42 (one month ago) link
Thank you!
― Indexed, Monday, 26 February 2024 18:04 (one month ago) link
Those two might be my favorite Makaya records. Highly recommend both.
― three of the doctor's valuable bats are now dead (broom air), Monday, 26 February 2024 22:23 (one month ago) link