Q is Joe Biden, another non-US Politics thread (Q Anon, Qanon, Q_anon, Joe Biden is Q)

ICP’s “fucking magnets / how do they work?” line, but instead of questioning it they make up a new theory of how magnets work, and then their entire fan base believes the theory and it becomes reality for them

I'm not saying it won't work but it feels pretty desperate.

"Work" in what sense? The Q people are a subset of Trump true believers, who are a subset of Republican party members. This does not grow his potential voter base by one person.

It feels like doubling down to maintain his existing set of rubes

This seems like a naive take to me. It will “work” for the Kochs etc by significantly increasing manipulation of elections.

Folks, what True the Vote is doing with QAnon influencers -- employing them, using them to target an election software company, funneling supposed claims they have to law enforcement -- is starting to become one of the biggest stories in the history of QAnon. https://t.co/7jNzj2pSos

— Alex Kaplan (@AlKapDC) September 20, 2022

*2020, not 2016

Y’all know Hitler only had the support of ~30% of the electorate when he took office. Where do you think this is going? It’s not like once the corporate sector is comfortable with openly spouting their “democracy? lol” line they’ll go back to telling us all to get along so they can sell Cokes.

QAnon followers search for hidden meaning in cryptic messages from a supposed military leader with the code name “Q” and in Trump’s own pronouncements. The Negative48 spinoff focuses on deciphering meaning using a takeoff of gematria, an ancient Hebrew tradition of assigning numeric values to letters. (Forty-eight, the group says, is the value of the word “evil.”)

god, please tell me that 48 isn't just the numerical order of the letters of "E V I L" in the english alphabet

E...5 +
V...22 +
I...9 + oh...god, fuck
L...12 there is no god, fuck all of this
_____
48

DAMMIT, this shit is EXCRUCIATING to confirm

One man with the group who didn’t identify himself illustrated how it worked using the name of this newspaper. “The Washington Post?” he said. “W is 23 in the alphabet. P is 16. Thirty-nine. Angel 39. Which angel? Lucifer was an angel.”

oooooooh FUCK

trump's embrace of them makes sense: very worst case scenario for trump is that he's not able to steal the 2024 election, and if so he can rely on Qanon and the special elite level of Qanon geniuses to give him money for the rest of their lives. it won't be enough to keep funding his incredibly tacky lifestyle, but he will always be very comfortable by any other stands by taking their money

the "get a brain morans" guy must be like a god to these people

that guy was a fed

The Moran guy must be like an ancient philosophical overlord to them like Aristotle

The “silent” war continues.

If only it were. Silent, that is.

he can rely on Qanon and the special elite level of Qanon geniuses to give him money for the rest of their lives.

...and Dornald Troomps Jr has been positioning himself to inherit his daddy's magical grift machine.

Trump Jr becoming commander of Qanon would be a very idiocracy kind of near-future

Easy enough to rewrite the ancient prophecy from "JFK Jr" to "DJT Jr".

Seems like they could find something for Eric to do.

Oh definitely! I mean he could just say “I’m the president” and then go live with them

Eric is clearly the vat-grown clone that DJT's brain will be placed in after his lifestyle wreaks its natural reward.

https://i.imgur.com/BsSKXNX.png

If anyone's hungry for some tin foil stew, here's some more meat for the broth.

https://www.postingthroughit.com/findpodcast/

(It's a ~30 minute podcast giving a good overview developments of recent months from a couple of experts. Choose your preferred platform and find the latest episode "#175: Trump is Q-posting his way through midterms (feat. Mike Rothschild)")

Some highlights (apologies for any transcription mistakes):

It is a legitimizing of these [election denial] movements...and using it not for personal gain...but using it for electoral purposes...and this goes right back to the beginning of the 2020 cycle. A lot of people are not understanding how much is going on at very low levels to make sure this is repeated throughout the country...these people are not just clowns, grifters or internet trolls...people are drawn to "let's blow up democracy to own the libs".

Noteworthy names named: Dinesh D'Souza, True The Vote

bonus points: the host, Jared Holt, is a regular target of Glenn Greenwald

Ha didn't know that but much respect to Jared Holt for sure.

people are drawn to "let's blow up democracy to own the libs"

fuck that 'own the libs' shit. those people are drawn to fascism because they feel their power is slipping away under democracy, whereas under fascism they can unleash state-sponsored violence to put them back in control.

Seems to be different names for the same shit sandwich?

also known as the "McRib" iirc

most people don't read "own the libs" literally, as in "enslave the libs", but if you translate the language that says they only intend to use the amount of violent force required to ensure that they resume entire control over society, that's the import of it.

the "own the libs" thing feels like a relic from a time in which cw dictated conservatism's fast-coming demographic decline into permanent minority--where there was nothing left to do but troll. This current moment is more like "Oh hey, if we just do this, this and this we can still control everything forever."

um, can't both things can be true?

The "obtain power and use it" strategy is definitely the MO for conservative power brokers, donors, elected officials.

However, I can confidently assure you that the base red-hat voters are still very much stuck on "own the libs" as consisting mainly of tribal signaling.

If you think that this is all about entrenching power, yes that's true. But it's also true that their path to power runs through the votes and actions of ppl wo love trollerific culture-war bullshit like bathroom bills, 1607, CRT, pronouns, Little Mermaid, Comet Ping-Pong pizza, Hunter's laptop, etc.

The MAGAnauts and Qbots may be severely deluded. But without those chuckleheads, your sinister backroom operators would be dead in the water.

Booming post, YMP

The power brokers saw this long ago, well before the Tea Party, although that was its coming out party.

xp Wildly misspelled post, sorry.

I guess I mean it's really tempting to dismiss lib-owning as a motivation. I just think that the power grab wouldn't (and couldn't) exist without a whole host of Confederate flag-waving "Let's Go Brandon" coal-roller types who haven't thought everything through. They aren't playing the long game.

They just hate liberals and want to piss off liberals, and that is their entire motivation. They exist and they fuel the "obtain power and use it" machine.

So ignore "own the libs" at your peril, I guess.

yeah, but there was a certain complacency in coverage of these things pre-Trump. "Look at these clowns raving about birth certificates and Benghazi, is this even a viable political party?" Now we know that Q theorizing and congressmen tweeting at AOC is probably not winning the GOP any new votes, but anti-trans and CRT stuff probably is.

Yeah, a lot of attention goes into the spectacle of the really stupid outrageous shit as well as trying to engage/debunk it on its content, but far less attention to how well it works and who it works on.

The problem is, they have to keep pushing it further and further.

Former CBS, Fox journalist goes full QAnon, says elites dine on ‘blood of children’

https://www.dailydot.com/debug/lara-logan-newsmax-open-border-satan/

who was let go from Fox News earlier this year for comparing Dr. Anthony Fauci to a murderous Nazi physician

wait, when did Fox go all mainstream and establish journalistic standards?

Right? I think it's another example of the Glenn Beck dynamic: someone who makes Fox look crazy.

maybe Dr. Mengele was offended by the comparison

Glenn Beck. Whatever happened to that guy?

xps

surprisingly, it looks like Lara Logan was too racist for Newsmax, even, which is kind of an incredible achievement

https://www.thedailybeast.com/lara-logan-goes-full-qanon-spews-blood-libel-on-newsmax

jeez, i knew she was on 60 minutes on occasion, i didn't realize Lara Logan was the CBS News chief foreign affairs correspondent from 2006–2018

everyone is fucking losing it

I'm not going to watch the clip, but how did the Newsmax host react (if he even did) when she went full nutso?

Lara Logan's downfall would be tragic if she wasn't clearly awful. I think for a lot of people, they start a bit down this road and people think they're crazy, but it just makes them double down even moreso and that just gets exponentially worse over time the more people think they're insane.

At the QAnon conference today headlined by Eric Trump and Michael Flynn, the speaker says the ‘Angel of Death’ is coming for various govt officials, and God is reinstating Trump to the presidency by the end of the year. pic.twitter.com/i7tyWOdWlB

— Ron Filipkowski 🇺🇦 (@RonFilipkowski) October 21, 2022

God's away on business.

I'm not going to watch the clip, but how did the Newsmax host react (if he even did) when she went full nutso?

i wish i were joking, but here's what he does. he introduces Logan and then "asks"

“Meanwhile, these people are coming in freeloading, so you divide the population, and then you conquer them,” Bolling exclaimed, invoking the theory. “Then you get them to agree, get your side to agree, to give these people voting rights. Then you never, ever, see a conservative holding office again.”

she goes into some of the stuff that's quoted in the article. he finally says something

"it's right out of the socialist playbook - you divide you conquer you attack, you get people to come in, you get useful idiots, those of us who are paying for these people to have luxuries..."

she responds by saying "on a serious note", and then talks about how she believes in god and it's the end times, etc.

the host says "final thought, final though lara, I have to ask this because my audience IS very god fearing - final thought: is god okay with a closed border?"

she goes into the stuff about democrats drinking the blood of children, etc.

the host chuckles and says awkwardly says "well let's hope so - Lara, always good to have you on, we'll get you back in here, appreciate your time, and - love your dog, wherever he or she is", and Logan says "on my lap"

I have a former friend whose descent from Obama voter hanging out with multicultural and gender fluid artists and musicians in Los Angeles to extremely online alt-right anti-trans/crypto-racist/anti-vaccine/Q-believing cartoonist in Colorado has been one of the most depressing trajectories in life of anyone I know. Not the Colorado part, that’s fine.

The cartoonist part is especially depressing.

One of those people whose true nature was either really well hidden or someone hit him on the head. What gets me, genuinely, is how this low-key and gracious type person with seemingly liberal values can turn to cruelty. And his work is very cruel.

I love that bit in the video about gold & silver prices skyrocketing, God's great 'wealth transfer'

This will always be followed by an incredible opportunity to get in on the ground floor, purchasing gold & silver coins at special Q discount, get in before it's too late, etc. "Please talk to one of our wealth transfer associates in the lobby, they'll be happy to give you more details on this life-changing opportunity!"