CELTICS 2010

r jeff out here stoking the flames

When you guys find out the truth 👀…. pic.twitter.com/JwUOZzclTb

— Richard Jefferson (@Rjeff24) September 22, 2022

cad, where is your intel about pagliuca coming from? honestly hard to make sense of this situation without more info about what actually happened, it seems absurd and potentially vindictive, like did he take advantage of the owner's daughter or something? but if whatever he did merits a year suspension, then it almost feels like they should just fire him no matter how great a coach he is. feels like there's a sunk cost thing going on keeping him hanging like that, nba windows are short and it already feels like this season is starting to fall apart, let alone next

i must admit that horf as player-coach trending on twitter does give me a warm feeling, however implausible

yeah if there was actual wrongdoing then let him go if its just two adults operating on a harmonious wavelength then give him five games and consider minding your own business next time

genuinely misread this as “if he wasn’t like one of the best looking coaches in the NBA they would’ve just fired him” and i was nodding, like, word
― Tracer Hand, Thursday, September 22, 2022 1:40 PM (thirteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

its kind of their own fault for hiring such a handsome man if you think about it

i cant find it but there was a photo from last season of udoka and stoudamire on the sidelines both just eye fucking the camera i was like this is dangerous you cant let these gentlemen hit all the best steakhouses and wine bars in town theres gonna be a commotion

apologies in advance if it ends up he did some shady shit, other than just cheating on his wife, tho who know what their arrangement is

so there is further intel that a woman listed in the celtics staff directory deleted all her socials this morning, that seems to be an obvious sign--she does not appear to have a relationship to pagliuca so that may have been a false rumor.

i think there has to be something else going on here that has them landing on this punishment, but ultimately i stand by my opinion that having a workplace fling is one of the lamest and most selfish things you can do, they always get exposed and they always fuck things up for everyone else. if part of ime's appeal was that he was this dude who commanded respect and could yell at jaylen brown or whatever than yeah, just fire him.

i dont think they are officially married but been together for like a decade with a kid together.

I don’t really have a personal moral issue with workplace flings or whatever, people are gonna fuck who they want and it’s impossible to stop them, but the rules are in place for a reason: I’m assuming this relationship ended and she now has to continue to work under him, which obviously being exes would create an inherently inhospitable work environment. ime knew the rules and broke them (assuming this story is true). a year does seem like a lot though

the workplace affair yeah its lame and gross youre exposing people who are just trying to get through their day in their cubicles to your private horn levels, but on the other hand people just wanna get wet thats human nature and i think its forgivable, its certainly not as bad as say taking healthy companies and loading them up with unsustainable debt so you can get money to buy a basketball team

if they feel like this behavior has damaged udokas credibility with the team then fine let him go, but if its just some corporate hr stories theyre telling themselves about being upstanding citizens creating the right culture or whatever i could do without it

seems like a pretty good chance that if they do give him a year suspension he just walks

yeah I mean why would you want to go back after that

yeah if there was actual wrongdoing then let him go if its just two adults operating on a harmonious wavelength then give him five games and consider minding your own business next time

yeah those are reasonable points and obvs theres a lot we dont know about their working relationship like was she his subordinate and so forth, i dont think five games and being publicly reprimand is exactly a slap on the wrist, tens games idk, is one mans inability to keep it in his pants really creating this black air is responsible for amateur internet sleuthing and whatnot

if you have a company where people whisper that every woman might be fuckin the coach you may have bigger problems that may resist corporate legislation

is one mans inability to keep it in his pants really creating this black air is responsible for amateur internet sleuthing and whatnot

lol yeah those corporate raiders are really doing him a favor god bless them

i mean there may be some not entirely healthy societal forces at play here that were not caused by ime udoka idk

think they should just let him go tbh if the punishment is gonna be this severe anyway

the person who deleted her socials did appear to work on the basketball ops side--would be tough to make the case that the head coach isn't her superior

theyre cld be floating a year to make a show of how seriously theyre taking this then give him 20 games or something

gerson rosas lost his job for doing this a year ago & nobody batted an eye, prob cuz he sucked at being a GM. if ime was steve clifford ppl would find it laughable that a team would be willing to suspend him for a year and take all the PR blowback associated with this whole mess in order to stick by him. he’s absolutely fortunate they aren’t canning him

you should write him an email

?? it’s ok ime will survive this horrible injustice of not being able to coach basketball for one year after having sex with a coworker. close your eyes and take deep breaths. picture jimmy butler’s three clanging off the rim

dont think im the one who needs to take deep breaths here

theyre cld be floating a year to make a show of how seriously theyre taking this then give him 20 games or something

dont think im the one who needs to take deep breaths here

if ime was steve clifford ppl would find it laughable that a team would be willing to suspend him for a year and take all the PR blowback associated with this whole mess in order to stick by him

not sure if this was your point but it doesn't seem to me like a grave injustice that one's actual job performance should factor into the equation when determining how many misdeeds your employer is willing to put up with/stand by you while you get your shit together

too much speculation in this thread without knowing the deets

i just think you’re really naive if you don’t understand why this is playing out in this fashion
― J0rdan S., Thursday, September 22, 2022 2:53 PM (four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

is it because of the illuminati

if they want to fire him for pr reasons fine go with god wyc grousbeck your name is literally pronounced wick you made your money working with mitt romney it is what it is, but i should not be made to care about their corporate human resources polices thats none of my business, but they will probably suspend him for one year because thats the stupidest possible outcome

ok ignoring you until this weird little attitude dissipates xp

not sure if this was your point but it doesn't seem to me like a grave injustice that one's actual job performance should factor into the equation when determining how many misdeeds your employer is willing to put up with/stand by you while you get your shit together

ok ignoring you until this weird little attitude dissipates xp

― J0rdan S., Thursday, September 22, 2022 3:05 PM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

https://www.slashfilm.com/img/gallery/is-jim-the-villain-of-the-office-john-krasinski-thinks-so/l-intro-1659042139.jpg

Thinking about this more and he absolutely would be fired if he hadn't just come off a Finals appearance, which makes the entire thing feel a little more icky/crass.

Anyway, just want to ask someone more technologically inclined to dub "How do you like them applesvibes" over that scene from Good Will Hunting."

my hot take is that corporate HR policies are actually good

lol thats clearly not a defensible statement

i mean if you want to pick some out that you like thats fine

that’s a complicated one lol… corporate HR people work on behalf of satan, generally, or may actually be satan himself in some instances. i would say that workplace relationships involving subordinates are frowned upon for a good reason on a macro level.

it’s also prob not a coincidence that ppl like jeff zucker and gerson rosas who get pushed out of their orgs nominally for having workplace affairs also seem to be running dysfunctional workplaces in general

well yeah actual implementation is a different story but policy is useful as a mechanism for helping to ensure that the work environment doesn't backslide to 1963 due to offensive, harassing, or coercive behavior

i think we can all generally support anti mad men office policies, but corporate hr also includes rules like getting a formal warning for using the bathroom without management approval

m bison asleep on the job as we discuss this subject… suspicious

we need to hear from the authoritarian left on this

policy is useful as a mechanism for helping to ensure that the work environment doesn't backslide to 1963 due to offensive, harassing, or coercive behavior

^^^
A 2022 workplace without such policies would be a cesspool.

idk about all that, maybe in finance

ultimately the rules are designed to protect the corporations not the humans, which ends up showing in a lot of their flaws

and obviously the power dynamics that allow people to harm others in those situations are created and fostered by the corporations

i mean robert sarver is 60 years old so its prob fair to assume he broke hr rules for decades without censure, because they werent for him

m bison asleep on the job as we discuss this subject… suspicious

― J0rdan S., Thursday, September 22, 2022 3:04 PM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

sry i cant surf the web during the day bc the youth of america depend on me

(lagoon uncharacteristically off tm itt, take off yr celtics glasses)