The Golden Palominos

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I always appreciated all their later trip hop adjacent albums, the ones with Lori Carson.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 22 September 2022 02:52 (two months ago) link

Sad news. Literally just went back through their records a week ago and discovered this, which I found rather hypnotic:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZ_Yh8ThDb0

Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 22 September 2022 03:12 (two months ago) link

Rest In Peace.
Blessings forever for The Feelies and those first few GP albums. And for being the most curmudgeonly yet friendly “door guy” ever at Tonic ( also RIP).

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 22 September 2022 07:00 (two months ago) link

It appears Spotify's upload of "Cook Out" from the first GP record is the wrong song, instead it's playing "Darklands" from the 4th lp, can someone else confirm this error on their spotify or another platform, and I'll figure out where to report it? Annoying as that's one of the better songs on the record. I have it on vinyl somewhere but just played it on Youtube to satisfy the need to finish listening to the record.

I understand this is apparently some sort of error on the content provider's part, but there needs to be some sort of redress here for the platform to gray the track out, or fix it themselves.

mig (guess that dreams always end), Wednesday, 28 September 2022 17:13 (two months ago) link

Same for me, yeah

MaresNest, Wednesday, 28 September 2022 18:15 (two months ago) link

I was just listening to them last night, RIP Fier. 1st album is correct on Tidal, but Visions of Excess is screwed up -- "Boy (Go)" and "Only One Party" are switched -- the tracks are listed in the right order, but clicking on each plays the other.

DPRK in Cincinnati (WmC), Wednesday, 28 September 2022 18:26 (two months ago) link

Reported to Spotify support, I assume nothing will happen but I've paid my respects to Anton in this small way.

mig (guess that dreams always end), Wednesday, 28 September 2022 18:48 (two months ago) link

Yeah, one of the two issues of A Dead Horse on Spotify has two songs switched – Angel of Death and Lucky, I think.

Naive Teen Idol, Monday, 3 October 2022 03:20 (two months ago) link

Or post in the Spotify thread on ILX, an employee lurks there and will probs make the change pretty quick.

The Ghost Club, Monday, 3 October 2022 04:23 (two months ago) link

We used to live in the same apartment building on 4th Ave in Brooklyn. I hardly ever saw him. Every now and again somebody would leave some amazing records outside on the street, for free, for the neighbourhood, and I always assumed it was him. Stuff from the late 70s and early 80s like Telex. It might not have been him. But I like to think that I have a few of Anton Fier's records.

Tracer Hand, Monday, 3 October 2022 10:25 (two months ago) link

awesome street find whoever left them there!

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Monday, 3 October 2022 12:44 (two months ago) link

Ok, I posted about those changes on the Spotify thread glenn posts on.

Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 4 October 2022 19:53 (one month ago) link

wow, rough story.

akm, Saturday, 8 October 2022 17:32 (one month ago) link

Several motorists at red lights gawked at me 10 mins ago as I sang "Clustering Train."

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 8 October 2022 18:02 (one month ago) link

nytimes obit...

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/07/arts/music/anton-fier-dead.html🕸🕸


That’s a terrific piece. Thanks for sharing.

Interesting that the Herbie Hancock Rockit Band was apparently a big drug-fest. A bunch of those guys look like session dudes who wouldn’t profile as big partiers.

Anton was such a big influence on how I heard music and how pop could be mixed with the avant garde. It’s kind of fascinating that a guy who was clearly so prickly could still recruit so many artists to play and record with him.

Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 9 October 2022 20:09 (one month ago) link

playing on the seminal 1978 EP “Datapanik in the Year Zero” by Pere Ubu

Surely the New York Times has confused the 1978 EP with the box set of the same name from 1996, which includes Fier's contributions to the Song of the Bailing Man album from 1982?

Halfway there but for you, Sunday, 9 October 2022 20:57 (one month ago) link

the ep's has a dedication to fier on the sleeve but the drummer was scott krauss as far as i know

mark s, Sunday, 9 October 2022 21:10 (one month ago) link

Yeah I figured that was a mistake. David Thomas didn’t start mucking about with the lineup until Art of Walking, their fourth album with Mayo Thompson.

It must have been a good experience tho as Fier was part of that power trio with Tony Maimone that formed the basis for Bob Mould’s Workbook and Black Sheets of Rain.

Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 9 October 2022 22:09 (one month ago) link

what's odd is that workbook is such a laid back album that you wouldn't think those guys were the band on it. Black Sheets is another story (and IMO a better album though I think I'm the only person that thinks that).

akm, Sunday, 9 October 2022 22:21 (one month ago) link

In Chris Stamey's book, Bob Mould tells him that he hired Fier after hearing how subtle his drumming was on one of Stamey's songs: "I didn't have the heart to tell him I'd used a drum machine on that track".

Halfway there but for you, Monday, 10 October 2022 02:32 (one month ago) link

I don’t actually know Workbook that well but I was a big fan of Black Sheets of Rain. There is a string of songs in the middle of that disc—One Good Reason, Stop Your Crying and Hanging Tree—that I find heavier and more tuneful than almost any of his Husker Dü work (Dying from the Inside Out kind of brings it together on the Palominos’ Drunk with Passion a few years later).

Especially as we are looking back now on the 30th anniversary of Copper Blue, it seems the heavier playing Mould did with Anton and Tony clubbing away in the background helped him mature as a songwriter (and perhaps also as a singer). I wonder if Mould would agree.

Naive Teen Idol, Monday, 10 October 2022 03:54 (one month ago) link

Interesting that the Herbie Hancock Rockit Band was apparently a big drug-fest. A bunch of those guys look like session dudes who wouldn’t profile as big partiers.

i dunno, this looks like a real party:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYdgGDNchhU

tylerw, Monday, 10 October 2022 18:39 (one month ago) link

I stand corrected.

Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 11 October 2022 01:55 (one month ago) link

_playing on the seminal 1978 EP “Datapanik in the Year Zero” by Pere Ubu_


Surely the _New York Times_ has confused the 1978 EP with the box set of the same name from 1996, which includes Fier's contributions to the _Song of the Bailing Man_ album from 1982?


Yeah I figured that was a mistake. David Thomas didn’t start mucking about with the lineup until _Art of Walking_, their fourth album with Mayo Thompson.

It must have been a good experience tho as Fier was part of that power trio with Tony Maimone that formed the basis for Bob Mould’s _Workbook_ and _Black Sheets of Rain. _


Reading this very good piece and interview with David Thomas on BandCamp suggests we may both be wrong:

Drummer Scott Krauss quit the band following the Art of Walking tour. Anton Fier (Lounge Lizards, Feelies, Voidoids, Golden Palominos), who had filled in for Krauss the first time he quit the band briefly (right before The Modern Dance) dutifully stepped back in. This album was intended to be very precisely formulated and constructed; the exact opposite of its immediate precursor. At the encouragement of Geoff Travis, head of Rough Trade Records, they brought in Adam Kidron as a producer. However, tensions between Fier and Thompson made life miserable for everyone in the band, and after touring this album, nobody in the band wanted to talk to anybody else. There was never a formal break up, according to Thomas; Pere Ubu just disappeared for a while.


https://daily.bandcamp.com/lifetime-achievement/dave-thomas-pere-ubu-critical-discography

Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 12 October 2022 13:41 (one month ago) link

meaning that krauss is credited as drummer on datapanik bcz he was (and would again be) the primary pere ubu drummer, but that fier is thanked on the datapanik sleeve because he actually played on a track or two despite not technically being a full band member? (if krauss was given to quitting best not make this entirely public in case he does it again over the crediting on the ep)

if this is the argument the NYTimes is making it shd probably be a bit more upfront abt it

mark s, Wednesday, 12 October 2022 13:59 (one month ago) link

All the songs on the Datapanik EP have individual credits on the Terminal Tower compilation, Fier is not credited. Anyway, all five of those songs date from 1975 and 1976, if Fier played with them "right before The Modern Dance" that would be late 1977.

Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 12 October 2022 14:08 (one month ago) link

And the EP was released in Spring 1978, which is why they might have felt a need to thank Fier.

Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 12 October 2022 14:10 (one month ago) link

it's odd to me that i first was pretty (quite) into feelies and pere ubu in the early 80s, then well knew of gp and anton fier late 80s to now, and didn't like realize duh he was IN THE FEELIES. pre internet music nerding was all blind spots. rip fier.

i'm intentionally vague, intending to front multitudes (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 12 October 2022 15:57 (one month ago) link

He’s right there on the left!

https://f4.bcbits.com/img/a1047235130_10.jpg

Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 12 October 2022 17:11 (one month ago) link

It’s also nuts that from 1980-1984 the dude is in The Feelies, Lounge Lizards, GPs, Pere Ubu and the fucking Rockit Band. That’s just nuts, particularly when you consider how often he was described as personally difficult and not necessarily the most skilled drummer.

Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 12 October 2022 17:17 (one month ago) link

^this, 100%!

Askeladd v. BMI (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 12 October 2022 17:20 (one month ago) link


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