Donald Trump: Classic or Dud?

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Christ, what an asshole

meat and two vdgg (emsworth), Tuesday, 20 September 2022 21:18 (one year ago) link

I'll admit I'm no biblical scholar. But how is this not blasphemy?

I mean, I suppose it's theoretically possible that he IS the Christ. Otherwise, it absolutely is.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 20 September 2022 22:14 (one year ago) link

Contemporary evangelicals don't care as much about "blasphemy" as more traditional christians did/do. Since televangelism & the prosperity gospel took hold of evangelicals, scripture is only used to support their own greed and the persecution of others (defacto trumpublican ideology), so this fellow grifter selling this dumb book citing Bible verses that he says make Trump the son of man is now closer to their actual religious beliefs than the European dogma that their religion grew out of.

BrianB, Tuesday, 20 September 2022 22:22 (one year ago) link

technically speaking the first time Xtians proclaimed Jesus the Messiah, it was a gigantic retcon over the previous understood definition of "Messiah", so this kind of fits.

i eat ass with a knife and fork (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 21 September 2022 02:50 (one year ago) link

wondering how long it will be before it's rebranded Trumpstianity

i eat ass with a knife and fork (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 21 September 2022 02:52 (one year ago) link

the funniest thing about the quote above is that famous agnostic Biblical scholar Bart Ehrman actually agrees with the idea that Jesus was not referring to himself when he talked about the Son of Man (https://ehrmanblog.org/at-last-jesus-and-the-son-of-man/). so weird when these cultish weirdos actually inadvertently stumble upon an interesting thought before taking a malodorous dump all over it

i eat ass with a knife and fork (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 21 September 2022 02:57 (one year ago) link

if the great religion of 19th cent usa was momronism, and the 20th was scyentology, the church of qanon/trump should really deliver for the 21st.

i'm intentionally vague, intending to front multitudes (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 21 September 2022 03:43 (one year ago) link

I think mary baker eddy's christian science outdrew the mormons in the nineteenth century, but the LDS was built to be a fortress against outsiders and outlasted it.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 21 September 2022 03:47 (one year ago) link

wondering how long it will be before it's rebranded Trumpstianity

From your lips to Trump's ears

Bait Kush (Eric H.), Wednesday, 21 September 2022 03:54 (one year ago) link

it's time for another round of what white nonsense is this xpost

i'm intentionally vague, intending to front multitudes (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 21 September 2022 03:57 (one year ago) link

descendant of a drummer
another and another
descendant of

put their faith in a god-fearing man selling them tiny homes (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 21 September 2022 04:04 (one year ago) link

Very Jesus-like, sir

In 2019, Trump directed us to go and take immigrants from the border and, quote, bus and dump them into democratic cities but he was more specific. He wanted us to identify the murderers, the rapists, and the criminals, and in particular, make sure we did not incarcerate them. pic.twitter.com/e6WEPtBip7

— Acyn (@Acyn) September 21, 2022

frogbs, Wednesday, 21 September 2022 04:39 (one year ago) link

Upon reading this book, the reader will be captivated when they realize how President Donald John Trump fulfilled most of the prophecies as the Son of Man.

Most of the prophecies. Most of 'em. The important ones. You know.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 21 September 2022 05:09 (one year ago) link

if the great religion of 19th cent usa was momronism, and the 20th was scyentology, the church of qanon/trump should really deliver for the 21st.

moronism or scentology would be good names for the little drummer boy-headed new variant tho

big movers, hot steppers + long shaker intros (breastcrawl), Wednesday, 21 September 2022 05:49 (one year ago) link

it would add a whiff of continuity, place it in that rich tradition

big movers, hot steppers + long shaker intros (breastcrawl), Wednesday, 21 September 2022 06:05 (one year ago) link

when you think about it Trump really is a lot better than Jesus--

Has more money.

Builds big buildings, not just some carpenter.

Got three Supreme Courts picks, Jesus got zero.

Nobody killed him.

SincereLee 'Scratch' Perry (President Keyes), Wednesday, 21 September 2022 14:01 (one year ago) link

I'm gonna say "yet" on that last one, and take a wait and see.

Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 21 September 2022 14:10 (one year ago) link

well, if it happens he probably won't come back to life like some hippie zombie

SincereLee 'Scratch' Perry (President Keyes), Wednesday, 21 September 2022 14:35 (one year ago) link

also,

Trump: bangs pornstars
Jesus: hangs around sex-workers, but it's totally platonic

SincereLee 'Scratch' Perry (President Keyes), Wednesday, 21 September 2022 14:37 (one year ago) link

Trump was under pressure to meet his father's expectations and match his achievements, Jesus had similar problems but with a more absentee father.

Narada Michael Fagan (Tom D.), Wednesday, 21 September 2022 14:48 (one year ago) link

Trump doesn't drink.

Jesus turned water into wine. (Alcoholic?)

SincereLee 'Scratch' Perry (President Keyes), Wednesday, 21 September 2022 14:52 (one year ago) link

tick tick tick?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHL7MfpBQQs

SincereLee 'Scratch' Perry (President Keyes), Wednesday, 21 September 2022 15:05 (one year ago) link

CNN:

New York Attorney General Letitia James filed a civil fraud lawsuit Wednesday against former President Donald Trump, according to court records.

The case docket indicates the defendants are Donald J. Trump, Donald Trump Jr., Eric Trump, Ivanka Trump, Allen Weisselberg, Jeffrey Mcconney, The Donald J. Trump Revocable Trust, The Trump Organization, Inc., and other businesses associated with Trump.

SincereLee 'Scratch' Perry (President Keyes), Wednesday, 21 September 2022 15:32 (one year ago) link

Add it to the list, I guess.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 21 September 2022 15:35 (one year ago) link

James is referring her findings to federal prosecutors in Manhattan, who could possibly open a criminal investigation into bank fraud, according to a footnote in the lawsuit.

Through "persistent and repeated business fraud," the Trumps convinced banks to lend money to the Trump Organization on more favorable terms than deserved, according to the lawsuit, which named the former president, three of his adult children, the company, and two of its executives, Allan Weisselberg and Jeff McConney.

SincereLee 'Scratch' Perry (President Keyes), Wednesday, 21 September 2022 15:36 (one year ago) link

civil suit

trump is going to have to pay some money (or somehow he'll get someone else to pay it for him), 3 to 20 years down the line, after hundreds of appeals. plus they might get him to move his business operations to another state, like, i don't know, Florida, where the fascists seem to really love him. meanwhile he was actively trying to find immigrant murderers and put them in american cities so that he could prove his important point that immigrants are murderers

justice is served

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 21 September 2022 15:39 (one year ago) link

The civil lawsuit, filed Wednesday in State Supreme Court in Manhattan, seeks a $250 million judgment and a prohibition on any of the Trumps leading a company in the state of New York.

Among other allegations, the suit claims that the former president’s Florida estate and golf resort, Mar-a-Lago, was valued as high as $739 million, but should have been valued at around one-tenth that amount, at $75 million. The suit says that higher valuation was "based on the false premise that it was unrestricted property and could be developed for residential use even though Mr. Trump himself signed deeds donating his residential development rights and sharply restricting changes to the property."

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 21 September 2022 15:39 (one year ago) link

In other words, yeah, this will amount to shit some years down the line, but in the meantime, boy, I just bet it makes him really mad. Like, super mad. Maybe he'll counter sue for emotional damages?

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 21 September 2022 15:42 (one year ago) link

Not one fucking thing will come of this beyond a token fine years from now.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 21 September 2022 15:44 (one year ago) link

well, even though it's a civil suit it seems a pretty thorough investigation was done, and it's being referred to state and federal prosecutors as well as the IRS. Maybe not much will happen, but nothing at all would happen without this step.

SincereLee 'Scratch' Perry (President Keyes), Wednesday, 21 September 2022 15:48 (one year ago) link

Oh, I don't disagree, it's just the last, I don't know, ten years or so have convinced me that there are just simply no actual consequences whatsoever for rich white men. None.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 21 September 2022 15:56 (one year ago) link

let's see if the feds act on it. if they do, it's hard for me to imagine that they'll complete the "investigation" (even though NYS just did it for them) before the 2024 election, which of course, starts the day after the mid-term

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 21 September 2022 15:58 (one year ago) link

we can't charge him with federal crimes! he's trying to be the president again!

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 21 September 2022 15:58 (one year ago) link

I'm more interested in state prosecution, since he can't be pardoned by a GOP President for that.

SincereLee 'Scratch' Perry (President Keyes), Wednesday, 21 September 2022 16:02 (one year ago) link

Maybe he'll counter sue for emotional damages?

Apparently his recent attempted suit against Hillary Clinton for 'Russiagate' was so laughably badly written that the judge promptly tossed it

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 21 September 2022 16:17 (one year ago) link

"... there are just simply no actual consequences whatsoever for rich white men. None."

I don't know, Epstein got a consequence.

nickn, Wednesday, 21 September 2022 16:41 (one year ago) link

One potential problem Trump could face in responding to multiple civil and criminal suits filed in multiple venues is that he'll need to assemble a large legal team to cope with them and the type of firms who could do this at a high level of competence have watched how Trump operates and very likely won't take him as a client. He's down to scraping the bottom of the barrel in terms of legal talent willing to represent him.

Look how well Alex Jones, who is both white and very wealthy, is doing with his incompetent legal team. There is room to hope that Trump will see some substantial consequences.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 21 September 2022 17:15 (one year ago) link

Alex Jones, for talking shit about parents of dead kids back in 2012.

It is a testament to our legal system that even the shittiest lawyers hired by the shittiest people for the crimiest crimes can stretch these cases out for decades

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 21 September 2022 17:26 (one year ago) link

Exactly. He'll be dead before it gets around to any ramifications for him. Sure, his shitty offspring might be around to feel the sting, but he won't.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 21 September 2022 17:28 (one year ago) link

I'd settle for him being dead as a consolation prize.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 21 September 2022 17:30 (one year ago) link

Trump should be sentenced to never being allowed to shower or change his underwear again

i eat ass with a knife and fork (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 21 September 2022 17:42 (one year ago) link

nothing will happen. the DA who would prosecute this as a criminal case has already declined. in principal he can change his mind, but he won't.

good work AOC anyway

Trump can thank @AOC for this @NewYorkStateAG lawsuit https://t.co/KcDOzzNaQF

— Mike Sacks (@MikeSacksEsq) September 21, 2022

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 21 September 2022 18:28 (one year ago) link

Alex Jones, for talking shit about parents of dead kids back in 2012.

The defamation suits against Jones were filed in Texas in 2018 and the verdicts arrived at in 2022. And there was a pandemic that made a total mess of court dockets inserted in that time frame. Just sayin' that not every suit takes ten years to resolve.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 21 September 2022 18:46 (one year ago) link

true but there is no one more skilled at delaying litigation than Trump. dude knows all the tricks and virtually every motion he files for is just an attempt to stall things further. he pleaded for a special master, got one who was firmly in his camp, and refused to even cooperate with that. it's all a show.

frogbs, Wednesday, 21 September 2022 18:53 (one year ago) link

also, didn't the judge (the one confirmed in the days after january 6) who allowed the special master already state that she would take the special master's findings under review but could override them herself as she saw fit?

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 21 September 2022 19:05 (one year ago) link

two of the justices were Trump appointees too, lol

i eat ass with a knife and fork (Neanderthal), Thursday, 22 September 2022 01:05 (one year ago) link

By the end of this clip, Trump almost completely decomposes.

If you saw someone on a sidewalk talking this way, you’d put your phone to your ear, stare at the ground and cross the street as fast as possible.

Via @atrupar pic.twitter.com/SFUI8jOr4o

— Bill Grueskin (@BGrueskin) September 22, 2022

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 22 September 2022 02:55 (one year ago) link

Brain visibly collapsing in on itself there.

circa1916, Thursday, 22 September 2022 03:10 (one year ago) link


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