they seem to have developed a new way of approaching some of these songs with a light touch then suddenly revving them up into overdrive, very interesting way of playing with dynamics
along these lines, Blue Milk was the highlight of the 2019 show i saw + Andy Ramsay is the MVP
― The 25 Best Songs Ever Ranked In Order (Deflatormouse), Tuesday, 20 September 2022 18:17 (one year ago) link
he's always been such a key part of their sound, and yet it seems like he's stepping it up, playing more with dynamics, throwing all kinds of sequences and triggers into the mix along with the drums, just a total champ
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, 20 September 2022 18:23 (one year ago) link
Absolutely. So long as he's there with Tim and Laetitia, it is Stereolab and I will always happily support them and see them.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 20 September 2022 18:40 (one year ago) link
Amen!
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, 20 September 2022 18:48 (one year ago) link
Yeah, I love the ‘overdrive’ moments. I remember even ‘Ping Pong’ went absolutely haywire live in 2019.
― KevRus, Tuesday, 20 September 2022 18:55 (one year ago) link
So way upthread Gerald posted this:
Given this, there's still this out there. Most of these are alt versions of released tracks so not that crucial:1. Super Falling Star (Moog mix) - from Volume 4 compilation2. High Expectations (demo)3. The Seeming And The Meaning (demo) - these 2 from the Spacewatch flexi4. I'm Going Out Of My Way (WHFS session) - from "Inside Dave's Garage" split single5. The Extension Trip (radio session)6. The Eclipse7. Jenny Ondioline (live) - Upsapalooza comp8. Cadriopo (full version)- from Fugu split single9. Persolator (live) - Phoenix: The Album comp10. Endless Summer (as Microlab) - from "Microstonia - Reprovisers" compilation11. St. Elmo's Fire (radio)12. Less Time13. St. Elmo's Fire (Red Corona)14. St. Elmo's Fire (Spatio-Dynamic)15. Impulse Rah!16. St. Elmo's Fire (Snow) - these 6 as Uilab from "St. Elmo's Fire" collaboration with Ui17. Miss Modular (Automator mix)18. Contranatura (Prelude To The Autumn Of A Faun mix by Kid Loco) - these 3 from "Miss Modular Remixes" EP19. Rainbo Conversation (Russel Simins mix) - from the "Miss Modular" US promo20. Chinese Whispers (Stereolab mix) - from "Chinese Whispers" compilation21. Untitled / 008 - from Thurston Moore's "Root" compilation22. Cache Cache (Monade) - from collaboration with Brigitte Fontaine23. Ticker Tape Of The Unconscious (Thievery Corporation remix) - from Thievery Corporation's "Abductions & Reconstructions" compilation24. Brain Drain - from "Collaborations 2: Constant Friction" compilation25. Négatités - from "Yeti 1" compilation26. Alternative 1 (with Hairy Butter)27. Alternative 2 (with Hairy Butter)28. Alternative 3 (with Hairy Butter)29. Mudra (V/A - Dimension Mix)30. Valley Hi! (live) - FBI: The Live Feed comp31. Neon Beanbag (Atlas Sound Southern Baptist remix) - Not Music JP bonus track
So I have a slew of these but not all -- here's what I'm missing:
5. The Extension Trip (radio session)7. Jenny Ondioline (live) - Upsapalooza comp8. Cadriopo (full version)- from Fugu split single9. Persolator (live) - Phoenix: The Album comp19. Rainbo Conversation (Russel Simins mix) - from the "Miss Modular" US promo26. Alternative 1 (with Hairy Butter)27. Alternative 2 (with Hairy Butter)28. Alternative 3 (with Hairy Butter)29. Mudra (V/A - Dimension Mix)30. Valley Hi! (live) - FBI: The Live Feed comp31. Neon Beanbag (Atlas Sound Southern Baptist remix) - Not Music JP bonus track
Gerald or anyone, any way to share these out? I'm essentially creating a 'Switched On Vol. 6' for myself and kinda interestingly it would all fit on two CDs so maybe one day... (Thinking about how Sonic Youth finally cleared out all those random B-sides and live cuts on singles from the 80s via a Bandcamp comp.)
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 26 September 2022 16:21 (one year ago) link
here's the Upsapalooza "Jenny Ondioline"
https://www.mediafire.com/file/x6qziqmrnuqqixm/1-01_Stereolab_-_Jenny_Ondioline.flac/file
― sleeve, Monday, 26 September 2022 16:31 (one year ago) link
I know I’ve got that Miss Modular promo somewhere, I’ll see if I can rip a nice version of that track
― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Monday, 26 September 2022 16:53 (one year ago) link
If it's Tim, Laetitia, Andy Ramsay and your gran' on the Grodeck Whipperjenny, it's Stereolab.
― henry s, Monday, 26 September 2022 17:04 (one year ago) link
Thanks Sleeve! All help appreciated!
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 26 September 2022 17:11 (one year ago) link
Anyone who wants these can email me at geraldmcbb (at) hotmail (d0t) com
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Monday, 26 September 2022 18:59 (one year ago) link
Anyone want to buy two tickets for the 9:30 Club show in DC Saturday?
― Lord Pickles (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 5 October 2022 00:47 (one year ago) link
Would like them to round out the expanded editions with a Chemical Chords/Not Music 2-disc set, mainly because I never bought them in the first place
― Jaime Pressly and America (f. hazel), Wednesday, 5 October 2022 04:26 (one year ago) link
Posted this on the wrong thread ... but saw them at Roadrunner in Boston last night, which is a terrific venue. Enjoyable but the absolutely terrible sound (their live sound person's fault as the opener had great sound and a very similar lineup) made the experience a lot less pleasant than it should've been. Current band is pretty tight tho and the song selection was very good.
Defer to Gerald McBoing-Boing for his review as he was also there and much closer to the stage.
― Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 5 October 2022 17:28 (one year ago) link
The show in Minneapolis had absolutely atrocious sound as well which I considered posting in this thread like 5 times but figured there would be no one to commiserate.
― zacata, Wednesday, 5 October 2022 19:43 (one year ago) link
OK gang
what in the holy hell is going on with side 4 of the Dots and Loops 3LP reissue (tracks 8, 9, and 10 on the original CD)?
what is labeled as "Parsec"... is not, and it's 4:35 instead of 5:34 long
then the version of "Ticker-Tape Of The Unconscious" is a full minute shorter, and "Contronature" is maybe 20 seconds shorter
what the heck is going on here, and what is in place of "Parsec"? nothing about this on the Discogs page, which has had helpful breakdowns on some differences w/previous reissues
― sleeve, Thursday, 6 October 2022 00:14 (one year ago) link
I'm going to have to go back and listen but they messed around with track lengths throughout the deluxe edition, mostly adding bits of new material here and there
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 6 October 2022 01:12 (one year ago) link
yeah but it's a totally different song!! I am so confused, any insight is most appreciated
― sleeve, Thursday, 6 October 2022 01:16 (one year ago) link
I bought that deluxe ed digitally from Bleep and the track listing is1 Brakhage 5:312 Miss Modular 4:293 The Flower Called Nowhere 5:154 Diagonals 5:155 Prisoner of Mars 4:226 Rainbo Conversation 4:467 Refractions in the Plastic Pulse 17:328 Parsec 5:359 Ticker-Tape of the Unconscious 4:4610 Contronatura 9:04(plus 11 more tracks)so exactly the same at the original release, more or less - the vinyl must differ?
― assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, 6 October 2022 01:39 (one year ago) link
― Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 6 October 2022 02:09 (one year ago) link
Sounds like something technical went way off the rails. If it's a digital board, could it be that they had levels saved from soundcheck that failed to load correctly?
Everything sounded completely normal and clear at the show I went to.
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 6 October 2022 02:40 (one year ago) link
I didn't notice any sound issues standing up front in Boston. Frankly, I was just closing my eyes and losing myself in the music. Observations:
Tim & Laetitia stood as far apart as possible. I forget if that's any different than the old days.
The bassist fellow took over Mary's backing vocals and did very well!
The drumming was OK but not as powerful as the material needed.
Favorite tracks were "UHF", "Mountain", a way too short "Jenny O" and the amazing encore surprise of "Simple Headphone Mind".
Not a great deal of stage presence, L's simple dance moves were really endearing though.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Thursday, 6 October 2022 13:15 (one year ago) link
The couple of times I saw Stereolab pre-break Tim stood in the middle of the band surrounded by everyone else basically. So yeah, different from those times for sure.
― grandavis, Thursday, 6 October 2022 13:54 (one year ago) link
I saw the Minneapolis show too and also found the sound unpleasant but wondered if it were somehow mixed for earplugs (which I forgot to bring; the music sounded better when I yawned, though). I appreciate hearing that it wasn’t just me.
― eatandoph (Neue Jesse Schule), Thursday, 6 October 2022 14:15 (one year ago) link
Huh. Sound was perfectly fine in SF and the mixer there, who I gather was the tour mixer, is an acquaintance of a musician friend, Sarah Hennies, who was thrilled to note she was doing that job. Strange!
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 6 October 2022 14:54 (one year ago) link
Yes, that's who it was in Boston. Sounds from her CV like she is super experienced musician/composer. Maybe they're dependent on whatever board the venue provides, I dunno. But hopefully they clean it up as the tour goes on. Not everyone wants to press themselves up against the stage like Gerald McBoing Boing!
― Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 6 October 2022 17:20 (one year ago) link
So I listened to side 4 of the dots & loops expanded edition and the first song was definitely Parsec. Don't really know about track length changes though.
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Friday, 7 October 2022 01:03 (one year ago) link
wtf
let me post what I have
― sleeve, Friday, 7 October 2022 15:14 (one year ago) link
here is the first minute or so of what begins my side 4 and purports to be "Parsec"
https://soundcloud.com/sleeve-the-dj/untitled?si=69f892dfeea846be90505ebb60bc5c54
― sleeve, Friday, 7 October 2022 18:11 (one year ago) link
oops that got removed, Moodles I will ILXmail you
― sleeve, Friday, 7 October 2022 18:22 (one year ago) link
So, decided to do a little Stereolab review project...but not about Stereolab specifically:
https://theshfl.com/guide/the-stereolab-halo
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 21 November 2022 16:24 (one year ago) link
awesome
― dan selzer, Monday, 21 November 2022 17:44 (one year ago) link
I haven’t had a chance to really dig in, but great concept - there’s so much to mine just outside of the official Stereolab canon.
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 21 November 2022 17:47 (one year ago) link
Really is and I surprised even myself -- a ton of things I had no idea existed.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 21 November 2022 17:48 (one year ago) link
Lots of great albums on that list
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Monday, 21 November 2022 18:29 (one year ago) link
Looks great. Richard Harrison played bass with the 'lab though, not drums/percussion.
― Position Position, Monday, 21 November 2022 18:33 (one year ago) link
Hm, must have misread something! Will correct.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 21 November 2022 19:06 (one year ago) link
also it seems to mention 2002 in the first para? surely that's 2022?
― sleeve, Monday, 21 November 2022 19:52 (one year ago) link
i love copyediting
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 21 November 2022 19:58 (one year ago) link
Great piece Ned, lots of stuff I hadn't known about at all. Curious to check out that Ghost Power, had no idea!
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 21 November 2022 19:59 (one year ago) link
Wow, nice article! I have about half of those, but it has inspired me to dig deeper - thank you!!One minor thing (this is extremely nit-picky) - I thought Laetitia's singing debut with McCarthy was earlier than *Banking...*Just did a little Googling, and this page says the *Get a Knife Between Your Teeth* EP is from April 1990 (on which Laetitia is credited), but this page says *Banking...* came out in August 1990.
― ernestp, Monday, 21 November 2022 20:11 (one year ago) link
IIRC the recent reissue boxset credit her with being on the At War EP. from 1989 and even the earlier Should the Bible Be Banned EP but it feels like an error.
Either way, by Enraged, they were starting to experiment more and showing the seeds of Stereolab. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cb2ENkP7t4M
― everything, Tuesday, 22 November 2022 00:07 (one year ago) link
I will keep that in mind re McCarthy -- I've kept updating poor Caleb at Shfl all my glitches today so maybe down the road! But thanks all for the corrections, and of course the kind words.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 22 November 2022 00:16 (one year ago) link
Any idea what they're ending with on their current tour, assuming they're playing the same-ish set? "Contact"?
― djh, Monday, 28 November 2022 18:54 (one year ago) link
Super-Electric when I saw them in Sept. Encored with Simple Headphone Mind and French Disko iirc.
― everything, Monday, 28 November 2022 20:31 (one year ago) link
Ta, everything.
It's a bit of a blur but I think they ended their main set with Super Electric and then played three songs as an encore. Tim looked really into Super Electric and the last song of the encore. Refractions in the Plastic Pulse was particularly good.
― djh, Monday, 28 November 2022 20:45 (one year ago) link
^ Not sure how that happened. Sorry.
― djh, Monday, 28 November 2022 20:46 (one year ago) link
Apparently the last song of the encore was Excursions into oh-ah-oh.
― everything, Monday, 28 November 2022 20:56 (one year ago) link
scored used copies of the reissues of ETK and D&L at the local shop. someone must've bought them new and returned them right away, cuz I noticed they were missing from the shelf lol
crazy how good Dots & Loops is. obviously this is no secret to anyone on ilxor.com but for some reason it never clicked with me back in the day.
dig those demos on Side F too. reminds me of the discussion we were having on the Police thread re: "songwriting". for example "Les Yper Sound" is cute in demo form but everything I love about that track is in the production. though I must say a stripped back Stereolab still sounds really good!
― frogbs, Friday, 2 December 2022 19:53 (one year ago) link