Peter Bogdanovich, threshing machine

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I find Klute harder going these days. Pakula often reaches a point where he's half in love with the easeful shadows of his cinematographer.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 September 2022 00:42 (one year ago) link

They were the second feature films by both directors. The Last Picture Show had a better story and better cinematography and Klute was more atmospheric, less straightforward

Dan S, Tuesday, 20 September 2022 00:46 (one year ago) link

(The best film from 1971 though is still McCabe & Mrs. Miller)

Dan S, Tuesday, 20 September 2022 00:59 (one year ago) link

three months pass...

Watched Daisy Miller in conjunction with the Tarantino book and--expecting nothing--thought it was pretty good, especially the last 20 minutes or so. (As Tarantino points out, it starts out like Bogdanovich wants to show he can transform official literature into screwball comedy, and the rapid-fire dialogue feels pushy.) I don't remember Barry Brown at all from that era, and it indeed looks like he was more of a TV guy.

Jeff Bridges, Timothy Bottoms, Charles Grodin, Brown, Robert De Niro, Bogdanovich--Cybill Shepherd sure drove men around the bend in the first half of the '70s. (Add me to the list.)

clemenza, Friday, 6 January 2023 05:23 (one year ago) link

Hadn't finished the Tarantino chapter when I posted that last night...Got my answer: he committed suicide in 1978. Tarantino draws a nice analogy between Brown and the character of Daisy.

clemenza, Friday, 6 January 2023 21:10 (one year ago) link

I recently watched They All Laughed - another Tarantino recommendation - and could not fucking believe how bad it was. And I'm generally a fan of Bogdanovich. But that film does not work in any way. Colleen Camp's character in it has to be one of the most irritating creations in cinema history.

Sometimes I really just don't understand Tarantino's taste.

(New Years Resolution: try to be more positive about things)

The Tarantino book has a lot of interesting insights in it (as well as lots to disagree with).

Josefa, Friday, 6 January 2023 21:38 (one year ago) link

I saw it ages ago and didn't get much out of it.

I still have three or four chapters to go--and have to watch Escape from Alcatraz, Hardcore, and The Funhouse (I've seen the first two)--but I'm glad I took the time to read it. Introduced me to at least two good films, the two John Flynns, and got me to watch Daisy Miller, which I never would have otherwise. The writing's okay when he's not going out of his way to be crude.

clemenza, Friday, 6 January 2023 23:00 (one year ago) link

Think I mentioned upthread that I watched IThey All Laughed over and over on HBO whilst at home during a college break so I grew to like it for some reason even though yeah, it seems like a trifle. Maybe I should watch again and get back to you. Maybe I already tried that too/zingproblems

Farewell to Evening in Paradise (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 6 January 2023 23:04 (one year ago) link

It doesn't improve on its opening sequence

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 6 January 2023 23:05 (one year ago) link

Can't find it. Where did I start watching it last time, I wonder? Maybe I will try to watch Saint Jack instead.

Farewell to Evening in Paradise (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 6 January 2023 23:09 (one year ago) link

It used to be on YouTube, I linked it up thread (link now dead).

RIght. That's what I figured, thanks.

Farewell to Evening in Paradise (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 6 January 2023 23:16 (one year ago) link

Still thinking about Saint Jack. Ben Gazarra is such a weirdo, I think. Maybe I am biased now based on seeing him once at a Cassavettes screening.

Farewell to Evening in Paradise (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 6 January 2023 23:17 (one year ago) link

This is on YouTube, Colleen Camp promoting the film on the radio in Cincinnati, and everything goes horribly wrong:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgNjnSzM3Eg

^ Haha, well done

I found Saint Jack quite good. Just the backdrop of it alone is interesting, and then Gazzara and Denholm Elliott made an entertainingly odd couple.

Josefa, Friday, 6 January 2023 23:42 (one year ago) link

One of these days I'm gonna get around to At Long Last Love

عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Saturday, 7 January 2023 00:09 (one year ago) link

I watched a Netflix-red-envelope DVD copy about a decade ago.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 7 January 2023 00:16 (one year ago) link

The past is a foreign country iirc

Farewell to Evening in Paradise (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 7 January 2023 00:30 (one year ago) link

haven't seen Daisy Miller, At Long Last Love, Saint Jack, or They All Laughed

but his 3 films in consecutive years from 1971 to 1973 - The Last Picture Show, What's Up Doc?, and Paper Moon - are all-time great

Dan S, Saturday, 7 January 2023 00:58 (one year ago) link

Eileen Brennan and Cloris Leachman from Picture Show are both good in Daisy Miller.

clemenza, Saturday, 7 January 2023 01:08 (one year ago) link

I was going to add that the kid's kind of annoying, but first I looked him up, and you know who it is?--James McMurtry, who I've never heard but recognized the name right away.

clemenza, Saturday, 7 January 2023 01:11 (one year ago) link

^^Larry's son, and future Alt-Country kingpin. Wrote one of the best W-era protest songs:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Szclr2caFG8

Always felt part of why guy directors (Tarantino, Wes Anderson etc.) love They All Laughed is that conceptually it's kind of a platonic ideal of a film a dude would love to make: a passion project with all your buddies on board, the most of the leading ladies have been involved with you romantically, and everybody's on great terms treating NYC as a playground for grown-ups.

Makes sense.

Farewell to Evening in Paradise (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 7 January 2023 03:53 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

I've seen it twice and found it a little overrated, although in meeting Corman's (?) conditions--get Karloff in there--pretty resourceful. Thought that weird animated thing from a few years ago Tower, was a better treatment of Charles Whitman.

clemenza, Wednesday, 15 February 2023 19:06 (one year ago) link

three months pass...

Unfortunately obscure YT of the day: not streaming, not available in the U.S. since the excellent DVD (still not hard to get), here is Peter Bogdanovich's personal favorite of all his films, THEY ALL LAUGHED, w/ John Ritter, Audrey Hepburn & Ben Gazzara. https://t.co/r29M4upwY9 pic.twitter.com/HHMLWwVib1

— James Kenney (@jfkenney) June 12, 2023

fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Monday, 12 June 2023 18:41 (ten months ago) link

love that movie, think of it a lot

serving aunt (stevie), Monday, 12 June 2023 19:50 (ten months ago) link

two months pass...
seven months pass...

Kino Lorber is putting out a Blu of Daisy Miller in May.


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