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i don't blame him tbh

Allen (etaeoe), Monday, 19 September 2022 22:57 (one year ago) link

yeah i tend to trust magnus on this, and a number of other top players seem to be suspicious of hans too, but its a pretty weird situation where magnus is just being extremely passive aggressive

lag∞n, Monday, 19 September 2022 23:04 (one year ago) link

mb magnus is convinced that hans is cheating but doesnt have any hard proof

lag∞n, Monday, 19 September 2022 23:05 (one year ago) link

he admitted to cheating. twice. in tournaments. and chess.com implied it was worse than that! it's insane he's even invited to these tournaments.

Allen (etaeoe), Monday, 19 September 2022 23:15 (one year ago) link

getting caught cheating online doesnt seem to be that big of a deal in the chess world for whatever reason, theres other players whove cheated online but still get invited to live tourneys, tho i dont think theres anyone at the absolute top level, part of it i think is theres no formal admin relationship between the sites and fide

lag∞n, Monday, 19 September 2022 23:24 (one year ago) link

another thing that complicates it is those cheating instances were when he was a child

lag∞n, Monday, 19 September 2022 23:27 (one year ago) link

COVID changed everything because tournaments went online. He wasn’t cheating in marches to boost his Elo, he was cheating in tournaments and accepting cash prizes. This also wasn’t when he was much younger. The last incident happened at the beginning of COVID.

Allen (etaeoe), Tuesday, 20 September 2022 01:10 (one year ago) link

yeah he was 16 at the beginning of covid, and fwiw hes been rolling since tourneys have gone live again, so if hes not cheating over the board then hes prob not cheating online either hes just that good

lag∞n, Tuesday, 20 September 2022 01:14 (one year ago) link

i mean he beat magnus, his first classical loss in like two years

lag∞n, Tuesday, 20 September 2022 01:30 (one year ago) link

I like to imagine Magnus is just salty as can be and is claiming foul to protect his ego. I say this in admiration to Magnus because Lord knows I would do the same in his position.

Seriously tho, Kinda messed up to let cheaters in. Don't care if it was when you were a kid or whatever. Bans need to be made public and enforced. Magnus is able to do what he is doing (and imo is justified) because FIDE and Chess.com are giving too much leeway and not being transparent with their response to cheating (speaking of the past). Hope this fixes things and we get some public stoning's in the future.
no formal relationship between sites/FIDE really does mess with this. Team Magnus lets gooooooooooo

hrep (H.P), Wednesday, 21 September 2022 02:01 (one year ago) link

"weird... odd... unusual"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQuhjvFXNYk

lag∞n, Wednesday, 21 September 2022 16:16 (one year ago) link

seems like magnus thinks this dlugy guy is in on the scheme

"Unfortunately I cannot particularly speak on that but people can draw their own conclusion & they certainly have. I have to say I am very impressed by Niemann's play & I think his mentor Maxim Dlugy must have been doing a great job"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c50PJmOj2-U

lag∞n, Wednesday, 21 September 2022 20:46 (one year ago) link

Is Magnus mainly mad that someone in his team leaked his opening prep? it seems too implausable that someone would be able to engine cheat during an on the board classical game.

cajunsunday, Wednesday, 21 September 2022 21:36 (one year ago) link

you could do it, some of the things people have done to cheat at gambling are unbelievable, chess would be relatively easy

lag∞n, Wednesday, 21 September 2022 21:53 (one year ago) link

one interesting thing i read is magnus before this whole thing was speculating about cheating and said that hed only need to have two or three moves a game given to him to be totally unbeatable

lag∞n, Wednesday, 21 September 2022 21:55 (one year ago) link

and people have done engine cheating over the board before fwiw tho not at as a high profile a tourney as sinquefield

lag∞n, Wednesday, 21 September 2022 21:57 (one year ago) link

its anal beads

LaMDA barry-stanners (||||||||), Wednesday, 21 September 2022 21:59 (one year ago) link

you dont even need to get the moves from the anal beads just having them in there is an advantage

lag∞n, Wednesday, 21 September 2022 22:00 (one year ago) link

Oh I guess Dlugy is a known cheater huh.

Maxim Dlugy is an infamous New York based GM and coach, who has been accused of cheating online. He took some credit for Niemann's success when he made world's top 50, calling him his student.

— Tarjei J. Svensen (@TarjeiJS) September 21, 2022

cajunsunday, Wednesday, 21 September 2022 22:00 (one year ago) link

Shirov recently suggested he was suspicious of Hans cheating during an OTB Tournament in 2020. This game—almost every move is Stockfish #1— was played by Niemann during that tournament (via: The Zugzwang Blog) pic.twitter.com/kkeopYe6XD

— Bed Bath & Beyond (@pabloroblesgast) September 21, 2022

cajunsunday, Wednesday, 21 September 2022 22:01 (one year ago) link

lol before he got good at cheating

lag∞n, Wednesday, 21 September 2022 22:02 (one year ago) link

Team Magnus send Hans to the gallows

hrep (H.P), Wednesday, 21 September 2022 23:02 (one year ago) link

LOL. I didn’t know about the Dlugy relationship. Absolutely incredible. He’s such a wildly shady character. In addition to cheating (and I suspect most people don’t know this), he’s been arrested multiple times for every financial crime imaginable.

Allen (etaeoe), Thursday, 22 September 2022 02:14 (one year ago) link

gukesh currently #23 in the world at 2726 is also the youngest, 16 y/0, player in the top 100!

feel like he hasnt got as much hype as some of the other very young players but then he just went on an insane run recently gained 100pt in 6 months, wild

lag∞n, Friday, 23 September 2022 17:38 (one year ago) link

4 indian teenagers in the top 100

lag∞n, Friday, 23 September 2022 17:43 (one year ago) link

they found multiple games where hans played 100 computer perfect moves

Pretty cool analysis. TLDR: Fischer, Carlsen, Kasparov at their best played with 69-72% correlation to chess engines. Niemann played at >70% correlation in many tournaments, and 79% correlation in two tournaments in a row. https://t.co/8P3GkEQaVS

— Ludwig Yeetgenstein (@yeetgenstein) September 26, 2022

lag∞n, Monday, 26 September 2022 23:00 (one year ago) link

her accent is hard to follow, i turned on subtitles

magnus carlsen, hans niemann, not sure how much more evidence you need pic.twitter.com/GErWdqPuGY

— br◎seph (@on3ness) September 26, 2022

lag∞n, Monday, 26 September 2022 23:01 (one year ago) link

and magnus finally said something

My statement regarding the last few weeks. pic.twitter.com/KY34DbcjLo

— Magnus Carlsen (@MagnusCarlsen) September 26, 2022

lag∞n, Monday, 26 September 2022 23:45 (one year ago) link

Knight is a silent assassin with many targets

calstars, Saturday, 1 October 2022 11:05 (one year ago) link

ive been doing puzzles "more seriously", cant tell if its working, my puzzle rating is higher tho

lag∞n, Sunday, 2 October 2022 13:36 (one year ago) link

troubling things i learned from the defector piece on the history of cheating in chess = there are two tigran petrosians

mark s, Sunday, 2 October 2022 13:42 (one year ago) link

one always lies, one always tells the truth

mark s, Sunday, 2 October 2022 13:44 (one year ago) link

lol

lag∞n, Sunday, 2 October 2022 13:49 (one year ago) link

actually i also learned that kasparov is a cheat and behaved like a complete dick towards a teenage girl who nearly bested him once

this is less of a surprise tho

mark s, Sunday, 2 October 2022 13:49 (one year ago) link

yeah its lame kasparov has such a good reputation when hes a huge idiot baby whos been trying to start a war between the us and russia for the last decade+ and believes jesus was born in crimea in 1152, on the other hand he is maybe the best chess player ever, but still

lag∞n, Sunday, 2 October 2022 14:03 (one year ago) link

"maybe the best chess player ever" -- the first and biggest red flag imo

mark s, Sunday, 2 October 2022 14:27 (one year ago) link

second best: bobby fischer 🙄

mark s, Sunday, 2 October 2022 14:28 (one year ago) link

normal guys

lag∞n, Sunday, 2 October 2022 15:13 (one year ago) link

chess.com says hans cheated over 100 times on their site https://www.wsj.com/articles/chess-cheating-hans-niemann-report-magnus-carlsen-11664911524

lag∞n, Tuesday, 4 October 2022 22:46 (one year ago) link

yeah but chess.com says all kinds of shit

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 4 October 2022 23:25 (one year ago) link

I was depressed yesterday so I put on some Tim Buckley and poked around the slides. A lot of the analysis is suspect but I think the conclusion is the same if the analysis was sound: Hans cheated frequently and cheated during tournaments.

Allen (etaeoe), Thursday, 6 October 2022 17:53 (one year ago) link

yeah seems pretty clear hans is a cheating ass

lag∞n, Thursday, 6 October 2022 18:03 (one year ago) link

wonder what fides gonna do, i dont think they have a policy for cheating thats not at the tourneys they run, and it could be harder for them to find evidence of cheating in their tourneys since they have so many fewer games to look at, they might just say fuck him anyway tho idk

lag∞n, Thursday, 6 October 2022 18:07 (one year ago) link

https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2022/10/adafruits-cheekmate-gets-to-the-bottom-ahem-of-chess-cheating-controversy/

Imagine if hans shoved something like this up his ass…for what?

calstars, Thursday, 6 October 2022 18:55 (one year ago) link

A game in the US championship just ended in 10 moves. I know the feeling lol. https://chess24.com/en/watch/live-tournaments/us-championship-2022/7/1/6

cajunsunday, Wednesday, 12 October 2022 19:12 (one year ago) link

It's quite late so I am probably being dumb but does black really need to resign there? Fairly sure he's going to lose a piece no matter what but bit early to throw in the proverbial towel

paolo, Wednesday, 12 October 2022 22:26 (one year ago) link

i've just started playing for the first time since I was a kid. way better at it now but still making dumb mistakes.

stank viola (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 12 October 2022 22:36 (one year ago) link

high level game if you lose a piece with no positional compensation its over xp

lag∞n, Wednesday, 12 October 2022 23:28 (one year ago) link

three weeks pass...

heh, love to play bullet chess

https://i.imgur.com/xXo65XP.png

lag∞n, Sunday, 6 November 2022 18:38 (one year ago) link

On move 55 of this game fuck this shit

calstars, Sunday, 6 November 2022 19:22 (one year ago) link


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