Jean-Luc Godard: S and D

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yeah the pre-67 films are loved for a reason but they're not the reason i adore Godard's work

feudal vague (Noodle Vague), Friday, 16 September 2022 11:54 (one year ago) link

https://tribunemag.co.uk/2022/09/when-godard-came-to-england

xyzzzz__, Friday, 16 September 2022 16:11 (one year ago) link

"its most basic apparatuses, had to be reconsidered from ground up, ruthlessly, and politically"

does this apply also to essays about film?

no they can stay completely unreconsidered

mark s, Friday, 16 September 2022 16:16 (one year ago) link

watched alphaville again and it's a hot mess.

koogs, Monday, 19 September 2022 17:00 (one year ago) link

Grabbed Brody's Godard bio from the library this morning.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 19 September 2022 17:09 (one year ago) link

I wonder if I should mention a certain bias I detected in the Brody book, or let you read it first and see if you feel the same.

Halfway there but for you, Monday, 19 September 2022 17:42 (one year ago) link

Well, I read him regularly lol so I wonder what that might be

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 19 September 2022 17:55 (one year ago) link

watched the image book last night as it's up on mubi: might rewatch after reading up on it as gorgeous as it is visually it's p cryptic

jlg's narration tho lol what a voice, sub-sonic rumble and grumble soup-to-nuts

mark s, Monday, 19 September 2022 18:14 (one year ago) link

Not on MUBI US anymore :(

Ride On Proserpina (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 19 September 2022 22:36 (one year ago) link

But it is on Criterion:)

Ride On Proserpina (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 19 September 2022 22:38 (one year ago) link

You can get The Image Book on Kanopy.

clemenza, Monday, 19 September 2022 23:00 (one year ago) link

Think you and maybe Alfred are the only ones who still have that.

Ride On Proserpina (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 19 September 2022 23:10 (one year ago) link

Are libraries passé?

clemenza, Monday, 19 September 2022 23:12 (one year ago) link

lots of libraries stopped paying for it (new york's did at least)

Piven After Midnight (The Yellow Kid), Monday, 19 September 2022 23:15 (one year ago) link

I have it and am halfway through the 44 Frederick Wiseman films that are available with my Kanopy subscription

Dan S, Monday, 19 September 2022 23:17 (one year ago) link

(xpost) True enough--my local stopped, but I was able to sneak back in using my Toronto card (moved away three years ago).

clemenza, Monday, 19 September 2022 23:20 (one year ago) link

Kanopy depends on a library paying for a subscription and rights. My uni library, well.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 19 September 2022 23:22 (one year ago) link

Seem to recall that their pricing model made it unsustainable for most libraries.

Ride On Proserpina (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 19 September 2022 23:23 (one year ago) link

Some kind of per use surcharge.

Ride On Proserpina (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 19 September 2022 23:23 (one year ago) link

They need this guy to play some hardball with them.

https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/Etb87Rs8yDz29G5ogXEiJm-970-80.jpg.webp

clemenza, Monday, 19 September 2022 23:24 (one year ago) link

https://www.nplusonemag.com/online-only/online-only/our-godard/

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 25 September 2022 10:05 (one year ago) link

The Brody bio was for the most part excellen.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 25 September 2022 12:07 (one year ago) link

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Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 25 September 2022 12:07 (one year ago) link

Well played.

Ride On Proserpina (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 25 September 2022 13:00 (one year ago) link

Boys chat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_Ac0Xc4lQw

Daniel_Rf, Monday, 26 September 2022 08:55 (one year ago) link

Love that. OG title: “The Baby And The Dinosaur”!

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 26 September 2022 10:18 (one year ago) link

Saw band a part for the first time. So good. Favorite moment is the voice over lead up and strange walk down the street at night.

calstars, Monday, 26 September 2022 19:53 (one year ago) link

I had a strong feeling that the Brody book had a certain personal animus behind it, particularly in his writing about the later years; this could be entirely my projection, but Brody's sting at being rejected by Godard after a day of interviews on his 60s movies really comes across. So I wondered if that explained his emphasis on certain unpleasant topics like the treatment of the young girl in Sauve Qui Peut or the romantic pursuit of the actress in For Ever Mozart. It's still a good book, though.

All of this may have been emphasized for me because the Colin MacCabe biography, which came out earlier, is very reticent about "personal details". It's probably the only biography I can imagine that mentions the subject's suicide attempts in a footnote.

Halfway there but for you, Monday, 26 September 2022 20:05 (one year ago) link

Hm! If anything, he's too forgiving of Godard's uh fascinations. He

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 September 2022 20:43 (one year ago) link

And his reporting on the SQP incident was pretty fair imo

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 September 2022 20:43 (one year ago) link

Brody very active in defending Godard's reputation on twitter.

Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 27 September 2022 09:12 (one year ago) link

Watched about 15 mins. Once Godard gets going (and Daney shuts up) you can feel how important the materiality of the medium is for him. You know this, but I've seldom watched him try and articulate it. Like when he talks about the act of projection.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 27 September 2022 10:32 (one year ago) link

May read it but that quote is terrible.

Fredric Jameson writes on Jean-Luc Godard.

‘If cinema really is dying, then he died with it; or better still, it died with him.’https://t.co/9pZDvpZHIf

— New Left Review (@NewLeftReview) September 28, 2022

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 28 September 2022 14:33 (one year ago) link

Picture makes it look like Godard secretly killed cinema and is gloating.

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 28 September 2022 14:51 (one year ago) link

Looks like that meme of the girl looking at the camera while the house burns lol

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 28 September 2022 14:56 (one year ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/4CobVKP.jpg

DPRK in Cincinnati (WmC), Wednesday, 28 September 2022 15:15 (one year ago) link

Is that from his Ulysses project?

Ride On Proserpina (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 28 September 2022 15:27 (one year ago) link

everything fredric jameson writes is terrible

mark s, Wednesday, 28 September 2022 17:17 (one year ago) link

He's a fan of poptimism

Toshirō Nofune (The Seventh ILXorai), Wednesday, 28 September 2022 18:35 (one year ago) link

Was wondering.

Ride On Proserpina (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 28 September 2022 18:43 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...

Nice, thanks!

We Have Never Been Secondary Modern (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 15 October 2022 18:24 (one year ago) link

three weeks pass...

Just watched ÉLOGE DE L'AMOUR (2001), only 19 years after Jerry the Nipper referred to it at the start of the thread.

I couldn't make much sense of it. Broadly confirms the sense that while early Godard is dazzling, late Godard is rambling.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 8 November 2022 23:31 (one year ago) link

Of the Godard I've seen from the last couple decades (which is not comprehensive), that one is definitely the weakest.

ex-McKinsey wonk who looks like a human version of a rat (Eric H.), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 00:03 (one year ago) link

He made five films from 2000. Image Book > Goodbye to Language (will we ever see it in 3D again) >>>> In Praise of Love and Our Music.

Haven't seen Film Socialisme.

Those top two films would comfortably be in a top ten for Godard.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 9 November 2022 00:10 (one year ago) link

Lots of shorts and skits and stuff outside those five features tho

ex-McKinsey wonk who looks like a human version of a rat (Eric H.), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 00:23 (one year ago) link

(I do need to circle back and see Film Socialisme imo)

ex-McKinsey wonk who looks like a human version of a rat (Eric H.), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 00:24 (one year ago) link

It's dire.

the pinefox, Wednesday, 9 November 2022 09:08 (one year ago) link

I have really never engaged with Godard's short film output at all..

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 9 November 2022 09:14 (one year ago) link


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