thank u poll for occasioning a deeper acquaintance btween me and the tweedy record, it is so dope
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, 15 September 2022 16:25 (one year ago) link
in an effort to comply with Indexed's request to submit a 3rd ballot, does anyone have anything approaching a comprehensive list of "side project" albums? Just considering Tweedy, I can think of
4 Uncle Tupelo2 Loose Fur2(?) Golden Smog2 solo albums + "Tweedy"Minus 5 - Down with Wilco
What am I missing? What other band members' stuff should I give a listen to? I know there are bands called On Fillmore and The Autumn Defense though I can't even remember which band members are in them. What's Nels Cline's other best stuff? I do want to revisit the Kotche solo records if I have time too
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Thursday, 15 September 2022 17:55 (one year ago) link
oh man warm is fantastic, why did everyone tell me this is boring
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, 15 September 2022 20:21 (one year ago) link
there are 4 jeff tweedy solo albums (though together at last is just acoustic versions of previously released songs)
― ufo, Thursday, 15 September 2022 23:29 (one year ago) link
The Autumn Defense is John Stiratt's Mellow Mafia-style side project.
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 15 September 2022 23:36 (one year ago) link
with pat sansone, who was in it before he joined wilco
― ufo, Friday, 16 September 2022 01:07 (one year ago) link
the b-side i ended up including in my ballot was "panthers." tbh as i get older i seem to only get more fond of the ghost is born material. has a sense of space (maybe the off-white psychic echo of a migraine?) that i can't say i've heard in any other record
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 16 September 2022 01:43 (one year ago) link
record reminds me of the more ramshackle end of lindsey buckingham productions where every sonic element sounds faxed in from elsewhere. i love it
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 16 September 2022 01:46 (one year ago) link
finally i think the alternate version of "hummingbird" is better than the album version but i feel like i understand why they went for the album arrangement, it's a welcome break in the tension
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 16 September 2022 01:49 (one year ago) link
i do recall at the time that "less than you think" was widely interpreted as a sonic representation of tweedy's migraines
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Friday, 16 September 2022 02:07 (one year ago) link
it's been confirmed by tweedy as well afaik
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 16 September 2022 02:11 (one year ago) link
Listened to "Being There" for the first time in a while tonight and had so much fun.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 September 2022 02:21 (one year ago) link
the b-side i ended up including in my ballot was "panthers."Same!
― Karl Malone, Friday, 16 September 2022 02:24 (one year ago) link
this was also my first brush with the golden smog catalog and another fine day was far and away my favorite. felt like a record i would've checked out of the library in the mid-2000s and privately fallen in love with and would've never had anybody to talk about it with
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 16 September 2022 03:38 (one year ago) link
i did check out down with wilco from the library several times in the mid-2000s, i don't think i ever quite fell in love with it though. "the family gardener" remains a gem
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 16 September 2022 03:40 (one year ago) link
revisiting cruel country before i submit my ballot and “the empty condor” is pink floyd wilco
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 16 September 2022 04:37 (one year ago) link
cruel country isn't that different in sound from any of tweedy's solo albums, or even ode to joy, but the songs have stuck with me so much more
― ufo, Friday, 16 September 2022 07:43 (one year ago) link
i think it’s pretty different from ode to joy, less of a pencil drawing more of a spirograph, especially in the adventurous middle
feels like it would be a v special record in literally any other band’s discog
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 16 September 2022 13:26 (one year ago) link
The curse of being consistently good.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 September 2022 13:27 (one year ago) link
it has a similar sort of mood & atmosphere, just less intricate than ode to joy by virtue of being largely live takes rather than a studio construction
it seems like it'll sneak onto my albums ballot in fact
― ufo, Friday, 16 September 2022 13:32 (one year ago) link
less of a pencil drawing more of a spirograph
feel like i just described the album art of each record here. regardless, well-chosen album art
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 16 September 2022 13:39 (one year ago) link
i'm going to make my side projects ballot more interesting today so i'd like to second the request for cline and kotche recommendations. and are the autumn defense any good???????
assuming jay bennett's the palace at 4am counts, i'm def voting for it
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 16 September 2022 14:31 (one year ago) link
I am by no means a Cline expert, haven't even come close to absorbing his whole discography, but I'd say that either Lovers or the Nels Cline Singers' Share the Wealth are great places to start. Can also recommend Instrumentals, The Giant Pin and BB&C, the one album he did with Tim Berne and Jim Black.
I'll second the recommendation of Kotche's Mobile, like that one a lot.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 16 September 2022 14:35 (one year ago) link
yeah took a quick glance at cline's discography and it is massive, and basically completely unfamiliar to me. thanks for the recs, jvc. have never heard bennett's solo record, will for sure check that one out now that the deadline's extended
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Friday, 16 September 2022 15:59 (one year ago) link
Haven't even tried with most of Nels's stuff. Are the albums w/ Thurston Moore any good?
Very glad to see a second of Mobile! Would probably appeal more to non-Wilco fans, but I can't recommend it enough.
― Indexed, Friday, 16 September 2022 16:19 (one year ago) link
I like "Panthers" a lot, I actually inserted it into the album (second track) within a week of listening to the deluxe edition.
― birdistheword, Friday, 16 September 2022 16:46 (one year ago) link
less of a pencil drawing more of a spirograph... feel like i just described the album art of each record here. regardless, well-chosen album art
& Summer Teeth is the photo collage album with the same cover-filling shape as those two.
― BrianB, Friday, 16 September 2022 18:07 (one year ago) link
i think my mom would enjoy nels cline’s lovers (a compliment, my mom is cool and loves both trad jazz and wilco)
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 16 September 2022 18:52 (one year ago) link
combo-contrarian/received wisdom opinion: the only dip in the catalog is wilco (the album) + the whole love; both, to different degrees, feel like wilco assembling a greatest hits out of new material, and no matter how much i listen to them i just can’t connect to them as, uh, wholes
first half of wilco and “one sunday morning” are still amazing
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 16 September 2022 19:58 (one year ago) link
I have listened to ST twice, AGIB twice, SBS three times and CC once and feel lost as ever. I still need to replay a few others but getting there. This is fucking hard.
― Bee OK, Friday, 16 September 2022 21:56 (one year ago) link
Ah i always felt like sky blue sky and Wilco (the album) were there low point for me and the whole love is where they got it back.
Still haven’t listened to cruel country yet cause I’ve been stuck with Warm on repeat.
― Will (kruezer2), Saturday, 17 September 2022 00:46 (one year ago) link
The Whole Love is half Summerteeth-lite and half dreary and forgettable imo. Cruel Country sounds sounds considerably more vitalised. Best album in years
― PaulTMA, Saturday, 17 September 2022 00:55 (one year ago) link
I don't know playing Sky Blue Sky has been the very best experience from this little project but I have always praised this album and has stood out even more for me this time around when comparing.
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― Bee OK, Saturday, 17 September 2022 00:56 (one year ago) link
it's such a beautiful record
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Saturday, 17 September 2022 01:06 (one year ago) link
a third of the whole love (the bookend epics) is a career highpoint but there's not a whole lot going for the rest of it - it's generally fine but it's kinda just a slightly better version of the wilco-by-numbers of wilco (the album) which is one of the least essential in their whole discography - "one wing" is nice and "bull black nova" is an ok mini-"spiders" but that's about it
definitely agree with brad that neither is really compelling as a whole
― ufo, Saturday, 17 September 2022 01:17 (one year ago) link
ok i need to mention that "deeper down" is fucking incredible
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Saturday, 17 September 2022 01:18 (one year ago) link
l might submit something for this— was thinking recently about how Wilco is the only teenage obsession that I am embarrassed by. Why is that? I should listen to the whole discography.
― broccoli rabe thomas (the table is the table), Saturday, 17 September 2022 01:45 (one year ago) link
the Nels Cline Singers' Share the Wealth
yooooooo this rocks
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Saturday, 17 September 2022 03:42 (one year ago) link
ballot submitted
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Saturday, 17 September 2022 04:21 (one year ago) link
First proper listen to Warm and yeah, it's lovely. This is vague, but there's something about the later Wilco/Tweedy stuff wherein I sort of half-listen, letting it coalesce in the background - it's more of a totalising effect somehow, less of the statement of the earlier records (up to Ghost, I guess), sonically and lyrically.
― Shard-borne Beatles with their drowsy hums (Chinaski), Saturday, 17 September 2022 10:47 (one year ago) link
Picking up lots of Beatles from Warm, but also plenty Bolan, oddly - partly in the harmonies (such as they are) but also in the way Tweedy's voice falls off or in at the end of a line.
― Shard-borne Beatles with their drowsy hums (Chinaski), Saturday, 17 September 2022 10:50 (one year ago) link
I helped with modifying the date.
Tonight, finally listened to YFH again.
― Bee OK, Sunday, 18 September 2022 04:25 (one year ago) link
12 ballots submitted - as a reminder, voting has been extended a week but if possible to submit any sooner, I'd appreciate it.
― Indexed, Sunday, 18 September 2022 17:05 (one year ago) link
you can expect most ballots to come in at the last minute, just how these things go
― ufo, Sunday, 18 September 2022 18:53 (one year ago) link
Am I late to learning that the Spotify song progress bar is a lightsaber for Star Wars?!
― Indexed, Monday, 19 September 2022 18:37 (one year ago) link
i guarantee if you put an album called star wars episode 20 empire of shit tomorrow it would have a lightsaber progress bar, spotify adds it to every “star wars” release
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Monday, 19 September 2022 18:56 (one year ago) link
LMAO
― Indexed, Monday, 19 September 2022 19:04 (one year ago) link
will mixed ballots be accepted? i haven't had time to do a full re-listen so i'll prob only be able to rank 10 or so
― comedy khadafi (voodoo chili), Monday, 19 September 2022 20:12 (one year ago) link
Yes!
― Indexed, Monday, 19 September 2022 20:50 (one year ago) link
Just leave an extra space in your ballot, and I'll assume it's mixed.