2022 NBA OFF SEASON DRAFT FREE AGENCY TAMPERING ETC

idk feel like hes done some good things but this looking like kind of a disaster

Silver was probably thinking of the contractual rights of NBA owners governing what he as commissioner could do to respond to Sarver's conduct. The NBA has no legal authority to prosecute Sarver under the various laws that protect employees from harassment or workplace abuse. The NBA could only do what they did: investigate, report what they found, fine him, and 'suspend' him. But that wasn't what Silver said, and he deserves to get knocked for it.

CP3 speaking out against his own owner seems like a big deal

i have no sympathy for him bcuz he gets paid obscene amounts of money to deal with these problems but he’s in a lose lose situation with this. i’m not sure what he could have said at that press conference that would have satisfied people except for a level of honesty that he is paid specifically to avoid

on the one hand it shouldn’t *have* to be on the players to hijack the NBA’s justice system in situations like this in order to push the league towards a resolution that feels like a legitimate punishment. on the other, star players like lebron and cp3 in particular have pointedly codified and utilized their power more so than any players in league history. in this case, for whatever reason, they seemed to have chosen not to, so these statements feel hollow to me, especially if they remain unwilling to make the league uncomfortable beyond tweeted statements

Chris Paul is going out of his way not to say Sarver's name in those statements

on the one hand it shouldn’t *have* to be on the players to hijack the NBA’s justice system in situations like this in order to push the league towards a resolution that feels like a legitimate punishment. on the other, star players like lebron and cp3 in particular have pointedly codified and utilized their power more so than any players in league history. in this case, for whatever reason, they seemed to have chosen not to, so these statements feel hollow to me, especially if they remain unwilling to make the league uncomfortable beyond tweeted statements

― J0rdan S., Wednesday, September 14, 2022 8:43 PM (fifteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

yeah they kinda missed the boat when this all came to light

CP3 also has the historical record to contend with given that he was the clear leader among the Clips players when the Sterling stuff went down. Any and all differences between his words and actions then and now inevitably have a lot of significance

all of the owners are evil dickheads anyway. billionaires. if theyre not indulging in sexual harrasment theyre violating the poor with predatory loans and amway shit

the banana boat arent going to speak up about that either because capitalism goes brrr

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micah otm

basically my feelings as well. the sarver stuff is gross but all of these guys suck, he just has enough enemies that it all came to light. I really doubt the NBA has the appetite to be the moral cops for all its owner oligarchs as it would ultimately just threaten its business model

yeah somehow dont think the nba is going to go anti capitalist, having a workplace free of bosses telling dick jokes would be some small kindness for the people who work there tho, and its nice to see one of these fat cats be publicly humiliated from time to time

the thing about the nba-billionaire relationship is its mutually beneficial, the fact that the owners are willing to buy the teams as toys rather than actual businesses pumps a ton of money into the system that otherwise wouldnt be there, eg the warriors paying $200m in luxury tax, allowing the players to get filthy rich and generally keeping the wheels greased, if say the players form a coop league (my dream) it just wouldnt be as easy as having some private equity guy cutting the checks

Now I'm thinking of a team owned by a perpetually stoned J.R. Smith.

Barkley's thoughts on being a broadcaster for the Saudi backed LIV golf tour: https://nypost.com/2022/07/21/charles-barkley-slams-selective-outrage-hopes-to-do-tnt-liv-golf/

Basically it's micah's point, all the owners are evil in some way or another. What evil is too much in sports ownership?

there is no ethical consumption under capitalism --when an oppressive government offers me $50 for a few weekends work

btw not sure this liv golf pr stunt is having the intended effect when every article about it is like the worst people in the world are backing this is that ok

*$50m xp

the whole part of them trying to make it cool by blasting music is pretty funny too

perfect authoritarian government stunt

lol there was a liv golf thing here in the last couple weeks and a bunch of people camping out for a wedding near the property line of the course got rousted for being suspected protestors. great publicity lol.

what happened to:

https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/3562621-nbas-charles-barkley-if-youre-gay-and-transgender-i-love-you/

fwiw, there has to be a line when the evil is too evil. LIV is over the line for me. But thinking the owners are going to identify that line and police it is pretty unlikely as the sarver case and the nba-china stuff shows

the capitalism stuff wrt to the owners & players is true but i do think we should remember that it is possible to be a billionaire and not be abusive in the workplace

there is no ethical consumption under capitalism --when an oppressive government offers me $50 for a few weekends work

― lag∞n, Thursday, September 15, 2022 11:37 AM (thirty-four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

thats not consumption anyway!

lol at there being evil golf now though, i wasn't aware of this

Evil golf is kind of redundant tbh.

thats not consumption anyway!

― ciderpress, Thursday, September 15, 2022 12:16 PM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

hey man i dont make the rules

apparenlty kyrie shared an alex jones clip on his ig

Kyrie Irving just posted a video clip entitled “Never Forget - Alex Jones Tried To Warn Us” with Jones claiming back in 2002 that a “New World Order” would release “plagues upon us…” pic.twitter.com/sz2Ps7Fbrn

— Tommy Beer (@TommyBeer) September 15, 2022

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lol what a shithead

man i really hope this nets team goes down in flames AGAIN

someone other team should get to wear those cool nets jerseys and the nets should have to wear burlap sacks with numbers handwritten in chalk by robert sarver, all problems solved *genuflects*

alright, now maybe some traction

Suns vice chairman Jahm Najafi released a statement Thursday calling for owner Robert Sarver to resign.

Najafi, who owns the second-largest ownership stake in the Phoenix franchise behind Sarver, said he “cannot in good judgment sit back and allow our children and future generations of fans think that this behavior is tolerated because of wealth and privilege.”

Najafi went on to say that Sarver’s conduct would’ve warranted immediate termination by any CEO, executive director, president, teacher or coach.

“That fact that Robert Sarver ‘owns’ the team does not give him a license to treat others different than any other leader. The fact that anyone would find him fit to lead because of this ‘ownership’ position is forgetting that NBA teams belong to the communities they serve.”

Sarver was suspended one year by the NBA following the completion of the league’s investigation into allegations he fostered a toxic and hostile work environment. Sarver was also suspended from the Phoenix Mercury, the WNBA team he owns, fined $10 million and must complete a training program focused on respect and appropriate workplace conduct.

“The statements and conduct described in the findings of the independent investigation are troubling and disappointing,” NBA commissioner Adam Silver said in a statement. “We believe the outcome is the right one, taking into account all the facts, circumstances and context brought to light by the comprehensive investigation of this 18-year period and our commitment to upholding proper standards in NBA workplaces.”

rip big man

i don't hate it, but sarver's minority partners crying foul at this point is just opportunism

no idea what kind of juice this guy has but that is an interesting statement.

Somebody in the comments on that piece (it’s from the athletic) says that this guy has been looking for an opportunity to oust Sarver for awhile. So yeah could be opportunism but that’s not mutually exclusive from purer motivations in this case. I assume it’s both/and

sounds right. bad things happening to bad people because of the effort of other bad people doesn't necessarily lead to bad outcomes.
this guy does get to be rich and an asshole for life in any case.

Phoenix mayor Kate Gallego and some of the city's councilmembers also released a statement, which stated, in part, "We have asked city staff to investigate any actions we, as leaders of the City of Phoenix, can take in light of the details substantiated in the report." https://t.co/Aqyt9FwR7M

— Baxter Holmes (@Baxter) September 16, 2022

joe arpaio is locked/loaded/ready to root out racism in the nba

has sinema made a statement?

the fearless and iconoclastic trailblazer kyrsten sinema is not afraid to zig when others zag and will surely see the redemptive potential for robert sarver

by coincidence he has a lot of money, some of which she surely sees

this might actually happen huh

PayPal, a sponsor of the Phoenix Suns, released a statement on the Robert Sarver situation:

"In light of the findings of the NBA's investigation, we will not renew our sponsorship should Robert Sarver remain involved with the Suns organization, after serving his suspension." pic.twitter.com/JanBRkiPUq

— ClutchPoints (@ClutchPointsApp) September 16, 2022

the company founded by peter thiel and elon musk has seen enough!

all this posturing is funny but also who cares if it gets sarver out. suns fans have been hoping for this for a long time

yeah he was already considered one of the worst owners in the league before any of this surfaced

pretty much since he decided not to pay a litte more to retain joe johnson

baxter holmes on zach lowe’s podcast was really good today on sarver and the league’s response.