Pretend you have a ballot for the 2022 edition of Sight & Sound's top 10 movies of all time list

Has Kiarostami's reputation been serious damaged by the accusations around Ten?

I don't think so

It seems to have largely disappeared from the conversation.

It's ranked #13 of all-time on THEY SHOOT PICTURES, DON'T THEY?, which compiles a whole bunch of lists til 2020. There might not be much conversation because it's been around and acclaimed for 74 years.

Also it was 33rd in 2012, which might sound far back but ahead of anything by Rossellini.

I guess I just didn't see it itt, or mentioned in other threads, or included in the Spanish list posted above.

It's cachet has faded, and I'm not sure whether it's because the canon has drifted toward experimental, expressionist, and genre, or because other national cinema movements primarily based in humanism have usurped Italian neorealism.

Haven't watched/listened to this yet but someone goes on for over an hour with predictions here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrHAEnzwj_w

Let the countdown begin...

1600 critics voted in the @SightSoundmag Greatest Films of All Time 2022 poll. "Almost double" the number surveyed in 2012, they say. That must make a difference. Either way, we'll find out when the results are revealed on 1st December.

— Michael Leader (@MichaelJLeader) October 26, 2022

Today I turned in my Sight & Sound ballot for THE GREATEST FILMS OF ALL TIME pic.twitter.com/ccnUzGuvAQ

— Isabel Sandoval (@Isabelvsandoval) November 3, 2022

It's about time Tropical Malady displaced Vertigo/Kane

From a different board and take with a gallon of salt:

Hi Everyone

I became a member of this site today and I have been following this site closely for the last 6 months.

I have been eagerly awaiting the 2022 the greatest films of all time survey of sight & sound magazine for the last 10 years because I made in-depth analysis of the 2012 survey results.

Yesterday, I received a message about the poll from a film writer friend from that magazine. My friend didn't say which film is the 1st movie and I didn't ask because on December 1st, we will see all the movies in the survey result.

My friend only said that : there is a "very surprising change at the top",, about the 1st film.

Based on this news, now I know that the 1st film is definitely not vertigo and of course not citizen kane..

because my friend said there is a big surprise in the 1st film. Therefore, by reviewing the results of 2012, I guess that one of these 3 films was the champion : Tokyo Story (1953) or 2001: A Space Odyssey, maybe The Rules of the Game (1939) ..

Frankly, I know that the film that won the poll was not ''vertigo and citizen kane'' and now my curiosity has increased even more...

We will find out the results online on December 1st and there are only 23 days left.

It's Jeanne Dielman. That's the new #1

If that's right--and the surprising change isn't Kane and Vertigo switching back ("very surprising change at the top" doesn't preclude that)--my guess is 2001.

Finally Ernest Saves Christmas gets the respect it deserves

Are there Vegas odds on this? I feel like making some money

The poster of that blind item above now claiming that the claim of a "surprise" at the top is none other than 1an Chr1st1e

The Jeanne Dielman prediction feels ... pretty decent in the context of the "big surprise" thing from whatever message board that is.

Still doesn't seem likely for a #1 but I guess I wouldn't be shocked for it to make the top 10

I can't wait to read what Owen G. thinks if that comes to pass.

(For reference, he flipped his shit at Vertigo and Mulholland Drive over Citizen Kane and Blue Velvet 10 years ago -- https://ew.com/article/2012/08/07/the-sight-and-sound-poll-is-full-of-it/)

Godard's death is too recent and, as mentioned above, his filmography is too "diffuse" for a big poll like this. If there's any filmmaker whose had a posthumous (and totally justified) reputational spike, it's Akerman. And though a lot of her work is beloved, Dielman is the capital-M "masterpiece" with all the baggage that implies.

The moment seems unusually perfect for a Dielman win. At the very, very least I think it's slam dunk in the top 10.

Or is there another movie you would choose as number one? (If you say The Shawshank Redemption, I will either commit seppuku or delete your comment.)

Now that would be the perfect surprise winner.

I guess that one of these 3 films was the champion : Tokyo Story (1953) or 2001: A Space Odyssey, maybe The Rules of the Game (1939)

Of these three, I feel like 2001 stands the best chance.

I'd heartily endorse Regle at #1 but I fear it's descent is only going to continue

I’m not sure whether one of those three historically lauded films landing at #1 in a massively over-inclusive critics poll really would count as “very surprising”

Jeanne Dielman somewhere in the top 10 would be so great!

After seeing Blue Velvet again, I agree with Owen G that it was a groundbreaking Lynch film and one of his most important

In his rant against Vertigo - it's 2012 position at #1, and the subsequent analysis of it by critics - he makes a good case for how great it really is, and why other critics might see it the way they do

Just sent in my picks for the @BFI Sight & Sound Best Films of All Time director's poll, honored to get to vote!! pic.twitter.com/ijaWV3Bhp5

— Jane Schoenbrun (@janeschoenbrun) November 8, 2022

Genuinely hope Speed Racer tops Citizen Kane in the directors' poll

It sure seems like directors weren't explicitly asked NOT to share their ballots prior to the Dec. 1 unveiling

Thrilled to be asked to submit my picks for the @bfi S&S poll: pic.twitter.com/MfD4MEVtSp

— Rodney Ascher (@Rodney_Ascher) November 8, 2022

Citizen Kane probably is still the best movie though

Eh

Yep, except for Speed Racer.

Go, Speed Racer, go!

seriously though, I'm wondering what the "surprising change at the top" could possibly mean. I can't imagine a film outside of the previous top entries just swoop in to take the top spot.

I think one or more of the three silent films that were in the top 10 in the 2012 poll could easily fall out of favor with the new voters. Probably not Sunrise, but one or both of the other two

*could just

also it seems like The Searchers is due for a reckoning

Hasn’t it, like “Cold Turkey” before it, been slipping off the charts for a while now?

I think The Searchers will be lucky to make the top 25. If it were only Americans voting, likely even lower.

Man with a Movie Camera had an unusually high placement in 2012, at #8. It's at #70 in 2002 and #44 in 1992. Guessing that'll drop.

Shooting from beyond half-court: Mulholland Drive will be #1.

That’s been my outside bet for a while. But 2032 more likely.

So is it challops or something to still like The Searchers or okay just as long as you don’t rate it higher than, say, Speed Racer?

xxp Mulholland was my first thought too, tbh

this hadn't occurred to me before, but seeing it juxtaposed with The Searchers, it's interesting that Speed Racer seems to have evaded being accused of whitewashing its source material

The Searchers is very much underrated in this era, you don't have to be Morbs to feel that way

I agree, and I'm not much of a fan.

With The Searchers out of the way, Ford is going to enjoy the Bunuel conundrum in these all-time roundups -- too many contenders, with none clearly out in front

The Godfather
Raging Bull
L’Atalante
Nosferatu
The Swimmer
Blue Velvet
City Lights
No Country for Old Men
Sunrise — A Song of Two Humans
Playtime

For The Searchers to succeed on the level of its ambitions, you need spectators that see Wayne as a mythic figure, and I don't know if enough of those people exist to rank it highly in 2022.

the Bunuel conundrum in these all-time roundups -- too many contenders, with none clearly out in front

Mexican Bus Ride the surprise #1!!