When You Wake Up Feeling POLL - ILM Artist Poll #115 - WILCO/JEFF TWEEDY (Voting extended until Sunday, Sept 25)

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solo tweedy is not particularly worth digging through unless you're really dedicated (though i do heavily recommend the first loose fur album)

if you can get any sort of ballot together it's worth voting even if you haven't had a chance to take an exhaustive listen of the entire discography

ufo, Tuesday, 13 September 2022 11:57 (one year ago) link

will be positively torturing myself to get this down to 40 tracks

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 13 September 2022 14:24 (one year ago) link

anyway i hung out with ode to joy for a little while last night. it's a good record. i only just learned the method of its recording (tweedy and kotche putting down sketches that the band filled in after the fact) which may be the very thing that makes the album refuse to focus for me (and is also the thing that's most interesting about it, the dislocation between its elements). anyway i really adore "one and a half stars" (great lyric) and "quiet amplifier" and "we were lucky" and the singles are both lovely but i remain confused that it was hailed as a return to form while acknowledging it's been growing on me slow as ivy since it was released and one day i'll probably think it's the best wilco album idk

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 13 September 2022 14:29 (one year ago) link

the atmosphere & arrangements are really lovely but tweedy's tunes are generally some of his weakest ever

ufo, Tuesday, 13 September 2022 14:32 (one year ago) link

what are everyone's favorite mermaid avenue songs? mine are "remember the mountain bed" and "someday some morning sometime"

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 13 September 2022 15:28 (one year ago) link

The solo Tweedy songs that are on my ballot radar:

Having Been Is No Way To Be (lock)
I Know What It's Like
Some Birds
Don't Forget
Family Ghost
Summer Noon (from Sukirae)

Indexed, Tuesday, 13 September 2022 15:35 (one year ago) link

xp I didn't realize it until going through to make this ballot but a lot of my fav Mermaid Avenue tracks are actually Billy Bragg ones. That surprised me. Even "Another Man's Done Gone," which I love, was apparently written by Bragg though sung by Tweedy. But yeah, huge fan of "Remember the Mountain Bed." I will also be voting for "Airline to Heaven" and "One by One" even though the latter is a little dirgey and repetitive. Considering "Secret of the Sea" too

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Tuesday, 13 September 2022 15:40 (one year ago) link

I voted for a bunch of Mermaid Avenue songs. "One by One" was at the top, though a lot of that has to due with the poetry, some of Guthrie's finest. It's surprising and heartbreaking stuff - I'm not sure when Guthrie wrote it, but I imagine it was after his illness had begun to overwhelm him. I kept thinking about it when I visited the Guthrie exhibit at the Morgan Library and saw the materials they had from his final years.

birdistheword, Tuesday, 13 September 2022 15:45 (one year ago) link

Airline to Heaven, 100%. There are a bunch of others on my radar. California Stars almost certainly and Christ for President, probably. One by One and Secret of the Sea both great tunes that have a shot for me if I have room.

Indexed, Tuesday, 13 September 2022 15:54 (one year ago) link

TBH, I think I may have voted for nearly every eligible Mermaid Avenue track from the first volume and at least a few from the second. The ones mentioned from the second - "Airline to Heaven," "Mountain Bed," "Secret of the Sea," "Someday Some Morning Sometime" - all made my list.

birdistheword, Tuesday, 13 September 2022 15:59 (one year ago) link

California Stars... so simple but so pure. Yeah I guess that one needs to be there too

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Tuesday, 13 September 2022 16:17 (one year ago) link

the whole love has the two incredible career-high bookends and then the rest is just fine

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i don't agree with this but i feel like my wilco opinions are entering contrarian-for-its-own-sake territory. just wanting to say that the whole love is def not my favorite wilco album but "black moon" is awesome

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 13 September 2022 16:19 (one year ago) link

i am calling it, "one sunday morning" is gonna win this poll

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 13 September 2022 16:32 (one year ago) link

I left Mermaid songs off my ballot because I had a hard enough time fitting in some of Jeff's Loose Fur & Uncle Tupelo tracks without bringing Woody's lyrics into that equation.

BrianB, Tuesday, 13 September 2022 16:39 (one year ago) link

The Whole Love is the artier older brother to Summerteeth. "Dawned on Me" is a lock. Bunch of others I'm considering.

Indexed, Tuesday, 13 September 2022 16:50 (one year ago) link

I will die on any hill for the song “Whole Love” as well. Something about the production just gets me. As far as the upbeat tracks on that album, not a fan of “Dawned on Me”, a little too hooky and singsongy. I do enjoy “Born Alone” though and I think I’m in the minority in digging “I Might”.

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Tuesday, 13 September 2022 18:32 (one year ago) link

All of that being said, The Whole Love is not sniffing my albums ballot. I feel like for this poll 5 is too small a number, having to make some painful choices…

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Tuesday, 13 September 2022 18:34 (one year ago) link

We are up to 6 submitted ballots.

I hope all of you are revisiting A.M. Has a few of my favorite Tweedy songs of all time. "That's Not the Issue" will be very high on my ballot.

Indexed, Tuesday, 13 September 2022 18:58 (one year ago) link

My two favourite Mermaid Avenue tracks are Birds & Ships (no Tweedy) and The Unwelcome Guest (barely any Tweedy). Will probably vote for California Stars, At My Window and Remember the Mountain Bed.

Shard-borne Beatles with their drowsy hums (Chinaski), Tuesday, 13 September 2022 20:23 (one year ago) link

yeah 5 albums is too little to vote for lol, there's too many to choose from.

nothing from mermaid avenue is going to make my ballot

as far as TWL goes beyond the bookends, "whole love" might have a chance of squeezing into my ballot. "black moon" is quite nice for sure but it's not enough of a standout to have a chance of making my ballot or anything

does anyone have any non-album track recommendations? i've listened to most of what i can find & i don't think i'll vote for any - best is "kicking television" and some of the yhf-era rarities like "cars can't escape", "the good part" "a magazine called sunset", "more like the moon"

ufo, Tuesday, 13 September 2022 23:09 (one year ago) link

if I actually get my ballot done in time, "Woodgrain" will be on it, and Being There outtakes "No Poetry" and "Blasting Fonda" are contenders for me as well

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Wednesday, 14 September 2022 12:27 (one year ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7ecZ4_v7kI

wild discovery from going through the summerteeth deluxe is that "locator" dates back to an early draft of the "can't stand it" riff or something like that?

really looking forward to the yhf deluxe which is partially out this week

ufo, Wednesday, 14 September 2022 13:19 (one year ago) link

Partially? As far as I can tell, it’s been pushed back two weeks to the 30th, for both the physical versions and the digital release (at least according to the bandcamp page).

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 14 September 2022 13:25 (one year ago) link

ah the itunes page still says it's coming this week but maybe they just forgot to update that too

ufo, Wednesday, 14 September 2022 13:27 (one year ago) link

Trying to piece together my ballot, but not sure I’ll have it done in time. This was a lot tougher than I anticipated and just refreshing myself with the track lists of albums I haven’t heard recently proved insufficient.

Saw a little drama on another forum from people who pre-ordered the YHF box straight from Wilco for $120 when it is only $70 on Amazon right now, particularly since Wilco is charging a 5% cancellation fee.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 14 September 2022 13:28 (one year ago) link

If we need to extend voting by a week or two to get more ballots, let me know.

re: non-album tracks, "The Thanks I Get" is one of those incredibly simple Tweedy songs that is a joy to hear performed live.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqRZ9E0DeSw

Indexed, Wednesday, 14 September 2022 13:31 (one year ago) link

goddamit how is it that i can't find room on my ballot for "Reservations"

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Wednesday, 14 September 2022 16:01 (one year ago) link

Before I build 77 of these...

https://i.imgur.com/TrLyS7D.jpg

Indexed, Wednesday, 14 September 2022 16:10 (one year ago) link

is it wrong to characterize born again in the usa as proto-star wars lol

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 14 September 2022 16:42 (one year ago) link

.... wow @ "wreckroom" aka jazz wilco

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 14 September 2022 16:53 (one year ago) link

amazed that i am the first person to bring up "wreckroom" itt

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 14 September 2022 16:54 (one year ago) link

xp Indexed, I know that I could get a ballot together for sure with another week, but I'll leave that up to you as the poll runner

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 14 September 2022 16:55 (one year ago) link

bring on another week, i almost requested it myself (my ballot will be done tomorrow)

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 14 September 2022 16:55 (one year ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJ3G1t0O8ic

i'm sorry but this is the greatest shit ever to me

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 14 September 2022 16:56 (one year ago) link

Yes, "Wreckroom" kills. Not sure how I forgot that!

Also: wow I was digging around on wilcoworld, and in the "Credits & Notes" drawer on the Sunken Treasure page there's a link to a dropbox with all the mp3s from the DVD. As I mentioned upthread, this is well worth your time and has many great Jeff solo recordings, including the version of "The Thanks I Get" I posted this morning.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/5i5hvkudi54lmc5/AAAmm7KLw7v1snlQ4s3T5swSa?dl=0

Indexed, Wednesday, 14 September 2022 16:58 (one year ago) link

How fucking great is it that wilcoworld has every setlist and official show poster ever? Do other bands do this?

Indexed, Wednesday, 14 September 2022 17:04 (one year ago) link

my ballot is almost done, but i will admit i have not listened at all to the two most recent albums so longer might get them on my ballot!

Will (kruezer2), Wednesday, 14 September 2022 18:07 (one year ago) link

Wreckroom is monstrous. How have I never heard this before? Thin Lizzy plays Liturgy.

Shard-borne Beatles with their drowsy hums (Chinaski), Wednesday, 14 September 2022 18:07 (one year ago) link

Another week it is! Mazel tov!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeGnjB_7phI

Indexed, Wednesday, 14 September 2022 18:29 (one year ago) link

Thanks for the extension Indexed, going to probably need it.

So voting is now open until Sunday September 25 12 AM Pacific?

Bee OK, Wednesday, 14 September 2022 20:16 (one year ago) link

Officially, sure, though if possible to get your ballot in by Saturday, I'd appreciate a non-work day to start getting organized.

Indexed, Wednesday, 14 September 2022 21:00 (one year ago) link

"wreckroom" is certainly the highlight from born again in the usa

ufo, Wednesday, 14 September 2022 23:38 (one year ago) link

dang, i sent in my ballot before really giving that one a chance. i did really like the first loose fur album, which i hadn't listened to until this poll. laminated cat and you were wrong are both high up on my ballot, and wouldn't have been before

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 14 September 2022 23:54 (one year ago) link

the rest of the album is a bit less interesting than the first, but "wreckroom" is immense and going to be up there on my ballot

ufo, Wednesday, 14 September 2022 23:55 (one year ago) link

Y'all are sleeping on "The Ruling Class."

I listened to the first Golden Smog album last night for the first time in ages and couldn't believe how many hits there were. Much more power pop/alternative rock than alt-country, as I had misremembered. Going to give Another Fine Day a spin today.

Indexed, Thursday, 15 September 2022 14:07 (one year ago) link

"the ruling class" is indeed pretty sleepy

ufo, Thursday, 15 September 2022 14:09 (one year ago) link

Also, I would politely ask that as many people submit a 3rd ballot as possible, even if you have limited knowledge of the various side projects! We have only received 1.5 so far, and I'd hate to have to scrap that one for lack of votes.

Indexed, Thursday, 15 September 2022 14:10 (one year ago) link

thank u poll for occasioning a deeper acquaintance btween me and the tweedy record, it is so dope

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, 15 September 2022 16:25 (one year ago) link

in an effort to comply with Indexed's request to submit a 3rd ballot, does anyone have anything approaching a comprehensive list of "side project" albums? Just considering Tweedy, I can think of

4 Uncle Tupelo
2 Loose Fur
2(?) Golden Smog
2 solo albums + "Tweedy"
Minus 5 - Down with Wilco

What am I missing? What other band members' stuff should I give a listen to? I know there are bands called On Fillmore and The Autumn Defense though I can't even remember which band members are in them. What's Nels Cline's other best stuff? I do want to revisit the Kotche solo records if I have time too

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Thursday, 15 September 2022 17:55 (one year ago) link


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