i hereby sentence him to corporate sensitivity training for the crime of doing a slur on social media
― lag∞n, Monday, 12 September 2022 18:38 (one year ago) link
does the nba have a DEI committee?
― Spottie, Monday, 12 September 2022 18:50 (one year ago) link
im sure they must
― lag∞n, Monday, 12 September 2022 18:51 (one year ago) link
hope he goes the tim hardaway route and uses this to truly better himself
― Spottie, Monday, September 12, 2022 12:53 PM (five hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
honestly this, hoping there are some orgs in the twin cities that can step up
― terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Monday, 12 September 2022 23:03 (one year ago) link
NBA has suspended Suns owner Robert Sarver for one year from the Suns and Mercury organization based on league investigation. Sarver has also been fined $10 million and complete training program focused on respect and appropriate workplace conduct.— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) September 13, 2022
― Spottie, Tuesday, 13 September 2022 16:04 (one year ago) link
what does it even mean to suspend an owner like cmon
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 13 September 2022 16:06 (one year ago) link
he gets to take a year off and relax
― Spottie, Tuesday, 13 September 2022 16:10 (one year ago) link
glen taylor got suspended over the joe smith contract thing. the NFL has suspended dan snyder and stephen ross in the last year as well. i agree that it seems generally unenforceable aside from the ban on being in the arena
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 13 September 2022 16:17 (one year ago) link
i mean what else could it entail? can they stop him from making money off of the team for a year? i guess theres some revenue sources that go through the league office that they can withhold?
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 13 September 2022 16:21 (one year ago) link
i think it’s supposed to encompass a ban on being involved in team activities, roster building & marketing decisions etc. but no idea how they would enforce that
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 13 September 2022 16:24 (one year ago) link
this seems like a slap on the wrist at most?
― Spottie, Tuesday, 13 September 2022 16:26 (one year ago) link
he can just pay off the ten milli with money he saved by not paying ayton last season
i would imagine $10 million is the biggest fine in the history of the league by a large margin but for a guy of sarver’s wealth that isn’t very painful
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 13 September 2022 16:28 (one year ago) link
the owner doesnt need to do that stuff anyway though
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 13 September 2022 16:29 (one year ago) link
10 mill to a billionaire is like a technical foul fine for the players
― Spottie, Tuesday, 13 September 2022 16:35 (one year ago) link
apparently 10 mil is the max possible fine per league rules.
i assume the suspension means he doesn't get to be involved as a governor in any votes on rule changes and all of that stuff though they must get to send someone in his place.
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 13 September 2022 17:48 (one year ago) link
being publicly outed as a big pos and having his toy taken away for a year at the very least cant feel great for him
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 September 2022 17:53 (one year ago) link
i mean hes still rich but theres not much the league can do about that
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 September 2022 17:54 (one year ago) link
yeah i guess i would really only be satisfied if he was ousted
― Spottie, Tuesday, 13 September 2022 17:55 (one year ago) link
the sterling option would be good but i bet that has mostly to do with the other owners deciding youre too depraved even for them, which is a pretty high bar
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 September 2022 17:56 (one year ago) link
there was a legitimate player revolt over sterling to the point of nearly protesting a playoff game which i think really forced the league’s (as a consortium of owners) hand in that situation. the suns seemed to take more of a “we just work here, man” approach to the sarver stuff which is totally understandable for various reasons incl them having real championship goals to worry about. but i think that helped keep the story on the back burner. also they had sterling on tape which always matters
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 13 September 2022 18:16 (one year ago) link
yeah true re the player revolt, ultimately i think sterling was just worse, and a flagrantly gross dude
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 September 2022 18:18 (one year ago) link
yeah the sterling event was unique. no one in ownership (which includes the commissioner) wants to set a precedent that allows their teams to be taken away
(i do find it funny that the nfl basically made jerry richardson sell the panthers but won't do anything meaningful to daniel snyder)
love in the espn article that sarver fully cooperated with the investigation but became incensed that he might actually be *punished* for anything
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 13 September 2022 19:00 (one year ago) link
with sterling the recordings were such a big deal, that always gives these things multiple times the magnitude
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 13 September 2022 20:01 (one year ago) link
if franz can do things like this
Franz Wagner with the stepback three over Giannis 😳pic.twitter.com/aQJV8xPfUX— ClutchPoints (@ClutchPointsApp) September 13, 2022
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 September 2022 20:20 (one year ago) link
he’s apparently been amazing in that tournament
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 13 September 2022 20:48 (one year ago) link
i feel like if he was a free agent tomorrow someone would give him like $125 million. being a wing at that age who looks that good is rare
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 13 September 2022 20:50 (one year ago) link
guess they do have him on tape
The report indicates there are videos of Sarver’s behavior taken by employees, but it doesn’t appear they will be made public. Again, more than what its counterparts can say it has done in ownership investigations.
https://sports.yahoo.com/robert-sarvers-suspension-fine-was-always-the-most-likely-outcome-to-avoid-discovery-in-a-lawsuit-054645546.html
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 14 September 2022 14:50 (one year ago) link
"The Jon Krawczynski Show – Talk North Podcast Network" https://talknorth.com/krawczynski/?amp
Guest this week is Chris Hine, the Star Tribune Wolves beat writer who is gay, talking about Ant. Later he talks more generally about being a gay man in the sports world and how it's hard to ever know where you stand with the athletes you cover and the general widespread homophobia in sports culture across the board.
He mentioned Jokic's comment in a press conference, I had missed that when it happened.
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 14 September 2022 14:56 (one year ago) link
ah ok then
NBA Commissioner Adam Silver said that there was no conversation with Robert Sarver about selling the Phoenix Suns, that Sarver "has evolved as a person" during his 18-year ownership tenure and that he has done "many very positive things" in his role.— Ben Golliver (@BenGolliver) September 14, 2022
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 14 September 2022 19:52 (one year ago) link
from everything im reading this seems to be silvers low point
― Spottie, Wednesday, 14 September 2022 19:53 (one year ago) link
silver was not ready for this question was he
. @HowardBeck: "Why should there be a different standard for NBA owner than it would be for everybody who works in this league?"Adam Silver: "There are particular rights here to someone who owns an NBA team as opposed to someone who is an employee."pic.twitter.com/iS4n5gII9v— ClutchPoints (@ClutchPointsApp) September 14, 2022
― Spottie, Wednesday, 14 September 2022 19:55 (one year ago) link
That is opposite of what he should say.
― Abel Ferrara hard-sci-fi elevator pitch (PBKR), Wednesday, 14 September 2022 19:59 (one year ago) link
apparently the only thing that will work is if theres footage or sound clips of it i guess. someone needs to leak it asap
― Spottie, Wednesday, 14 September 2022 20:09 (one year ago) link
silver being unprepared for that question yikes, they really thought they swept this up
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 14 September 2022 20:14 (one year ago) link
― Spottie, Wednesday, September 14, 2022 1:09 PM (five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
... or a player revolt. but that seems unlikely here
― Spottie, Wednesday, 14 September 2022 20:16 (one year ago) link
― Abel Ferrara hard-sci-fi elevator pitch (PBKR), Wednesday, September 14, 2022 3:59 PM (twenty-five minutes ago)
regardless of how he could massage the messaging, it is simply true that owners have different rights than employees do. not just in the NBA but in any business. silver can't fire an owner, for one. so you're already inherently bargaining yourself down on punishment to begin with
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 14 September 2022 20:27 (one year ago) link
i haven't seen the press conference and maybe silver does come off particularly bad but at the end of the day owners run sports leagues and commissioners exist to do their bidding. NBA fans like to pretend that the NBA is different & more virtuous than other sports leagues but this situation is laying bare that NBA owners are going to protect themselves and send their commissioner out in front of the firing squad to give slimy responses to questions he can't truthfully answer just like the NFL and MLB do
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 14 September 2022 20:29 (one year ago) link
its true. disappointing
― Spottie, Wednesday, 14 September 2022 21:05 (one year ago) link
Based on some conversations with NBA people around the league there is speculation that the NBA did not want a legal battle with Robert Sarver. So they put the report out there to allow it to run its course - Sponsors reaction, Minority owners reaction, Media, Fans etc..— John Gambadoro (@Gambo987) September 14, 2022
― Spottie, Wednesday, 14 September 2022 21:13 (one year ago) link
gambo also said this yesterday
Here is what could happen in regards to the Suns ownership. There is very likely language in the partnership agreement that would allow for the removal of the principal owner for cause. IF the minority owners determine that Robert Sarver violated his fiduciary duties and acted— John Gambadoro (@Gambo987) September 13, 2022
― Spottie, Wednesday, 14 September 2022 21:14 (one year ago) link
Read through the Sarver stories a few times now. I gotta be honest…Our league definitely got this wrong. I don’t need to explain why. Y’all read the stories and decide for yourself. I said it before and I’m gonna say it again, there is no place in this league for that kind of— LeBron James (@KingJames) September 14, 2022
behavior. I love this league and I deeply respect our leadership. But this isn’t right. There is no place for misogyny, sexism, and racism in any work place. Don’t matter if you own the team or play for the team. We hold our league up as an example of our values and this aint it.— LeBron James (@KingJames) September 14, 2022
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 14 September 2022 22:57 (one year ago) link
REVOLT!
― Spottie, Wednesday, 14 September 2022 22:59 (one year ago) link
Nice bit of agitation there, bron. Go for it.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 14 September 2022 23:01 (one year ago) link
Like many others, I reviewed the report. I was and am horrified and disappointed by what I read. This conduct especially towards women is unacceptable and must never be repeated.— Chris Paul (@CP3) September 15, 2022
I am of the view that the sanctions fell short in truly addressing what we can all agree was atrocious behavior. My heart goes out to all of the people that were affected.— Chris Paul (@CP3) September 15, 2022
― lag∞n, Thursday, 15 September 2022 01:27 (one year ago) link
Regarding the reaction to commissioner Adam Silver's comments today about team owners having different rights than employees, NBA spokesman Mike Bass offered this clarification: pic.twitter.com/xT8LyAejev— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) September 15, 2022
― lag∞n, Thursday, 15 September 2022 01:30 (one year ago) link
so we're all done with pretending silver is good at this, right?
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 15 September 2022 01:32 (one year ago) link
idk feel like hes done some good things but this looking like kind of a disaster
― lag∞n, Thursday, 15 September 2022 01:44 (one year ago) link
Silver was probably thinking of the contractual rights of NBA owners governing what he as commissioner could do to respond to Sarver's conduct. The NBA has no legal authority to prosecute Sarver under the various laws that protect employees from harassment or workplace abuse. The NBA could only do what they did: investigate, report what they found, fine him, and 'suspend' him. But that wasn't what Silver said, and he deserves to get knocked for it.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 15 September 2022 02:14 (one year ago) link
CP3 speaking out against his own owner seems like a big deal
― Spottie, Thursday, 15 September 2022 03:26 (one year ago) link